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<0> rip, there are almost none in switzerland, and pretty much everyone has been in the army and has a machine gun in the closet
<1> CompHobby switzerland has a different mentality than the us
<2> yeah all about the machine gun
<2> many european countries also allow free use of sound suppressors
<3> canada has a different mentality than the US too
<1> yeah
<1> way different
<1> just watch the evening news
<1> in the us they do their best so scare you
<2> sound suppressors are hugely useful.. but very painful to get in most of US
<4> and if you serve in tanks then you have tank in your garage ?
<1> in canada is like hillbilly news
<1> heh
<3> yes
<3> US media is stupid
<1> yeah i hated us media



<0> that's for sure
<1> how they ruined movies
<3> well, the mainstream anyway
<1> and stuff
<2> i dont care about bad us media because the internet gives me international media
<2> regarding tv, i dont own a tv, so peh.
<0> the only reason I own a TV is because I haven't pulled it apart for the flyback transformer yet
<3> AaronWL: international media is great, but sometimes you do want to know what's going on locally
<3> and for that, it can ****
<2> international media will tell you :P
<3> ...
<3> i used to be like that
<3> :P
<2> xinhua, bbc, etc, cover america, as much as america does
<2> just without the paris hilton part
<3> i meant local as in your hometown
<3> or state
<5> they ought to cover paris hilton with a sack
<3> not US national news
<2> oh
<3> for instance if i want to know what the terminator is up to today
<2> i read the paper sometimes, but by any large, not a whole lot of interest happens here (lafayette, LA, US)
<3> oh
<6> CompHobby: You can't, you have to make a link to the folder, then just use the file as a new dir, you can move /usr/local/htdocs /htdocs but not /www
<2> terminating, most likely.
<0> zid_: that's really odd, I could have sworn I did something like that on my server about a month ago
<2> i have just made a discovery
<2> 10w resistors may be rated for 10w, but they still get extremely hot
<5> I've just had lunch
<0> yeah
<5> sure they get hot
<4> AaronWL: they have to
<6> OrageTide: ?
<4> it's physics
<0> AaronWL, I heated my mouse with a pair of 4.7 ohm resistors across the 5V rail on my PSU one cold winter day
<0> it rocked
<0> but it needed a PWM on it so it didn't get so bloody hot
<5> the more current goint through any resistance the hotter it gets
<0> I had to manually switch it
<3> mmm 5 watt handheld transceivers
<2> well, at 2.4 watts, this resistor is getting hot enough to burn me....
<0> what is it, one of those ceramic sandbar type ones?
<2> yeah, wirewound
<5> at 10W it will make a good water heating element
<0> dammif if I had known you needed some of those I would have thrown a pile in that box of stuff
<0> I have like a quart jug full of ones I've pulled out of old monitors and PSUs
<2> hehe
<6> i want a box of stuff
<0> zid_, you're on the other side of the atlantic
<0> and I'm far too lazy to ship international
<2> you must have a lot of old monitors
<0> yeah... I used to pull a lot of stuff apart
<2> i would too.. if i had the stuff :P
<0> I've been running off my stockpile of desoldered power resistors and electrolytic caps for around five years now
<2> well, i wonder what the minimum load this psu will reliably run off is
<2> google!
<6> OrageTide: wake up
<2> the trouble with these resistors is that they don't disipate heat very well
<2> even at least than a watt, they get uncomfortably hot
<0> they dissipate fairly well when superglued to a chunk of aluminum that is superglued to the inside of a computer mouse
<3> this has turned into #ee



<3> :P
<3> i know, let's talk about tokenizing!
<3> mmmm tokenizing
<0> strtok: either that or #nop
<0> strtok: I did some of that at work today, wrote myself a nice stdin to mu-law compressed audio feeder for icecast using libshout
<0> strtok: I'm in #ee, heh
<0> though I think you were... like months ago or something
<0> I forget
<3> nah, not me
<6> OrageTide asleep? it's only what, half ten
<3> i'm a pure embedded software engineer
<3> no hardware!
<0> heh
<0> embedded rocks
<0> I'm probably going to be doing embedded (both hardware and software) once I get out of school
<3> w00t
<2> i wonder.. is there a lot of money in embedded? do embedded enginers get paid?
<3> yes
<3> :P
<0> AaronWL: from what I hear it's a pretty fast growing field
<0> that could be hype though
<2> for me, i dont really like electronics. its too imprecise.
<3> mid-range salary for a staff engineer is $103k
<3> although that's an ultra-inflated silicon valley average
<2> i dont like the way a lot of EE is just 'test it under all conditions and if it doesnt explode, it works'
<0> I like being able to slap something together and then fudge the errors out of it
<3> CompHobby: now that i can't do :(
<3> i work on a very large codebase, like cisco IOS
<2> its nice to be able to do it, as a personal skill.. but i dont think its particular elegant or admirable.
<0> and then perfect it for v1.2
<0> as long as I make enough to pay my loans off in the first two or three years, I could really care less actually
<3> it would be fun to work on something smaller
<2> only people who have money don't care about it :P
<0> I'm still used to not having any
<2> right, but you probably still have ways to get things fixed.
<2> it royally blows when you don't have enough money for, for eg, a pricey surgical operation you need.
<2> or even a nice car, or a sailboat
<0> yeah, that is true
<0> luckily I haven't had to have anything like that yet
<3> i'd like to afford a home
<3> :P
<0> and I don't own a car or anything... just a computer and a bike basically
<0> most of my test equipment was dumpster dived
<2> i want a lot of money, because i know ill need it, and i can find contructive uses for it.
<2> none of this beautiful rich wasting money on rich people parties though.
<0> yeah, the hell with that
<0> even if I had more money then Midas I wouldn't be throwing parties
<0> hm... I hope I win this embedded board :/
<2> what board?
<0> a PC/104 based one
<3> can't you get sample boards from altera and such ?
<3> :P
<0> I forget the part number but it's the same exact one as one we have at work
<0> and I need it for an upgrade to a project I built for a public library about three or four years ago
<0> back when I didn't know prebuilt boards that size even existed
<3> cute
<6> I might set it to make a time-d file in a folder named the date
<6> one day
<2> hmm.. would it be evil to get +7v by using +12v and +5v as gnd?
<0> well... if it needs to be referenced to ground you'll get an unpleasant surprise of course, but otherwise it should work
<6> wouldn't that make 5v?
<2> 12-5 = 7
<0> if you put a HUGE load on it, it's probably not particularly good for the PSU but a small load should be fine
<0> nope
<6> but then again, I **** **** at electrcity
<2> hmm.. in the usual flyback/forward converter case, aren't the isolated by the transformer?
<0> they're still two points at different voltages, so it should work
<2> i suppose it needs to be tested experimentally!
<0> a lot of computer enthusiasts do that to run their 12V fans at a lower voltage so they're quieter actually
<0> the 7V trick that is
<2> hm, i didnt know that
<0> which is a cool idea because then you can have an SPDT switch on the ground line of the fan that moves from actual ground to 5V for highspeed and lowspeed modes


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