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<0> OrngeTide: coool! <1> http://www.imz-ural.com/ <2> wazm, german helmet? i think orngetide has that on his to do list, right after shaving his head and getting some white supremacist tattoos <1> vio, russian bike. copy of a WWII bmw. <1> the sidecar has a drive axel giving you 2 wheel drive :) <1> s/axel/axle <1> vio, kaiser helmets aren't nazi related. <2> ornge, o hi see.. you'll definitely need a big garage to maintain a russian bike <1> vio, yea. that's one reason i didn't get it. the other is that its top speed is 65mph <3> The City also has its own college, Peterborough Regional College. The college attracts over 15,000 people each year, from the UK and abroad, to study there. It is currently in the top 5% of colleges in the UK. <3> erm wow <3> that's where i'm going <3> ahaha ****, there's 6k portugese in peterborough (they beat us in the world cup) wonder how many died <1> the university system in the US is completely broken now. nobody normal can get into school anymore unless they are an athelete or have above perfect GPA. <4> OrngeTide: really? <2> orngetide, no way, i would dispute that
<3> it's free here <3> all I need is 3 grade Cs <1> vio, like the UCs. they are turning away people with 4.0 gpas right now. <4> OrngeTide: you can get into a joke school. you just can't go someplace where they'll teach you ****. <5> portugal is gonna win it <2> ot, there are uni's other than the UC's <1> my friends daughter had to ask at 3 different UCs before she finally got in. and she has a 4.1 gpa <4> OrngeTide: 4.0 gpa doesn't mean anything, though. <3> heh, I've also been in the same cl*** as the manager of peterborough's football club's daughter <4> it doesn't even mean that the student in question isn't stupid. <2> ot, you are imlpying that there is a shortage of colleges... which i would disagree with <1> evilgeek, well here it's gpa + SAT/ACT test scores. that's all they look at until you start thinking of stanford, harvard, etc. <1> vio, there are plenty of colleges. <3> and of course, keith from the prodigy was both there <1> but there is not much capacity at state universities <4> OrngeTide: that can't be true. surely schools also look at the distribution of grades, performance in academic contests, and so froth? <1> people with 4.0 gpas and high SAT scores shouldn't be going to city college. <4> s/froth/forth/p <4> why not? <4> (what is a city college?) <1> evilgeek, it's sort of a filter. once you make it through the GPA filter then you can start having them look at what extra cirriculars you did, and things like that. <2> ot, if there are plenty of colleges, then are you trying to say that the college admissions process is bogus and not based on merit? <4> i got into the university of waterloo despite a very low GPA and slightly above-average test scores. <0> did you have money? <4> OrngeTide: that still seems bizarre to me. <4> vio: it is bogus and not based on merit <1> vio, i'm saying that the capacity of state universities is too low. <3> OrngeTide: You should read the wikipedia article on peterborough, it's pretty interesting <4> vio: grades and SAT scores say nothing about how smart or stupid a person is. <1> they keep jacking up the rates for the state unis (yet we pay millions in taxes to support them) then they don't let people in who actually deserve to be there. <4> particularly not when high schools have such bizarre grading schemes. <2> ot, well each state has its own state uni system... CA has the UC's and the state uni's (calpoly, sfstate, etc) <4> OrngeTide: blame bush. <1> people who would benefit from the resources available at a state uni don't get to go. that's silly <4> OrngeTide: again, why does a 4.0 GPA mean that someone should be in university?' <4> s/'//p <1> evilgeek, yea. everyone wants to blame bush. but it's a state problem not a federal problem. it's just that all states have the same problem. <1> evilgeek, if you have a 4.0 gpa then you obviously care more about your education than I do (i had a 2.8gpa) <4> bush has been cutitng money from various research programmes. in order for the schools to keep their profs, the state (why do you call your provinces 'states', anyway?) must step in. <0> I had a 4.2 GPA out of high school, ended up a crappy university, but then I got hired by Amazon, so I'm set for life now <0> heh <1> so i went to city college. it was a good city college and a bit expensive. and had the resources there that I was interested in. nobody does advanced research there or anything, but i was mostly just looking for job training than becoming a career student. <2> evil, well you can't have a perfect system, and using the gpa and sat is good enough.. although you can always come up w/rare individual cases of someone having a 4.0 gpa and being a total idiot, or someone having a very low gpa and test scores and being a genius who will work hard in college <1> evilgeek, yes yes yes. everything in the world is bushes fault. <4> OrngeTide: i argue that if you're willing to go to university and you have a low GPA, you're probably better-qualified. high GPA just indicates that you like to follow directions. university is about independent thought. <1> too bad congress has been screwing up the country way before bush was even govrenor for that argument to even hold any water <4> vio: i do not think those cases are very rare. <0> OrngeTide: congress was just the lube, bush was the spikey dildo <2> evil, okay, i guess that's where we disagree :) <4> OrngeTide: when bush got power, one of the first things done was to cut federal grant money. <1> evilgeek, yea. that makes sense to you and me. but how do you propose universities, with personel who have no idea what they are doing pick the 800-1200 students that get to enter the uni out of the 20,000 applicants? <4> vio: what, you don't think that independent thought is relevant? <1> if someone has a 4.0 gpa and they are an idiot, i think they would probably do fine in a university. ***uming they don't commit suicide <4> OrngeTide: that's irrelevant. i was refuting your argument that 4.0 gpa => suited for university. <3> I are teh smark but I don't do the verk <0> OrngeTide: the problem is worse in india <4> i'm sure they would. that doesn't mean that idiots with 4.0 GPAs should be in university. <4> Wazm: but the IIT entrance exams are sane. <1> evilgeek, oh i see. well i certainly don't want 4.0 gpa people working for me. so i prefer to have them at a university. <1> who belongs at a university then? <4> OrngeTide: you want someone with a 4.0 GPA to fix your car, though.
<4> OrngeTide: intelligent people. grades do not measure intelligence, contrary to popular belief. <1> Wazm, yea. but i have little respect for india or indians. so it doesn't seem like a big deal to me. <1> evilgeek, i think grades measure effort. <4> rather, people who want to learn. grades do not measure desire to learn, either. <4> yeah, but effort in what? <1> a smart person who gets low grades is lazy. i'm proof of that <3> grades measure knowledge <2> i think evilgeek feels slighted because he got bad grades in high school <4> HS grades measure how much effort you put into inane, pointless work. <6> I used to get great grades , and I never went to much effort <4> zid_: they don't. <1> grades measure your willingness to take orders and do pointless labor. this is a very valuable metric in our society. it might not measure intelligence, but it is valuable. <3> I'm getting awesomely **** grades, and I'm the smartest person at the shcool <4> OrngeTide: yes. so why should universities look at this? <1> maybe you're so dumb you just think you're the smartest? :) <6> :) <1> evilgeek, because this is where these types of people belong <7> Grades mesure how much pain you can go through, and your willpower to conform <3> pretty sure most of the kids at that school can't tell their arse from their elbow <4> OrngeTide: it's really not. <4> OrngeTide: i'd rather have them in the army or something. <1> community college is for someone who doesn't really want to go to school, and just want to spend as little time as possible so they can go out and get a real job. <6> not really. my grades were from my test scores. <1> people who get 4.0 gpas aren't primarily focused on getting out into the real world. generally speaking :) <6> the teachers didn't like me <2> evilgeek is a rebel <1> evilgeek, well you have to volunteer to be in the army, usually. <6> what the hell is a gpa. I'm in Australia . we don't follow every american perversion yet anyway. <1> zid_, make yourself smaller then <3> one day my friends, I shall rule these lanes. <1> jeffloc, grade point average. <3> these lands too <3> We have.. GCSEs <2> most office jobs require boring/tedious work and being able to follow instructions... i would argue that if someone can put up with that bull**** in HS, they are more well suited than some independent thinker who wants to do things his own way <3> I dropped out of highschool <1> A = 4.0, B = 3.0, etc.. it's the number of cocks you have to **** to get it. or the amount of bull**** in tonnes you were willing to deal with <3> I couldn't ****ing stand it <4> OrngeTide: right. people who are suited for military service should not be encouraged to go to university instead. <3> I just had a fight with my mum every morning for 2 years instead <1> i almost didn't graduate. <3> then they threatened legal action, I went to a shrink and got thrown out <4> zid_: i did too. <1> evilgeek, i don't see the logic there. <4> zid_: well, i dropped out. <1> i don't want some high strung 4.0 gpa nerd out there with a gun. <1> they are way more likely to commit suicide <4> OrngeTide: good point. <4> OrngeTide: they're good at doing **** work and following orders, though, and that's exactly what you want in a serviceman. <1> evilgeek, yes. that's why we have a lot of foreigners in our army. <4> OrngeTide: perhaps they're not entirely suited to service on the front lines, as you have pointed out. <3> I think you guys should get the darwin award runners up people on the front lines <1> you need people who are willing to take **** and kill for their ideals. <1> and not ask for a lot of money. or get mad when you throw them away when they get injured <1> so i'm thinking cultists and rednecks would be the place to start. <1> zid_, dying believes in you. <3> I don't beleive in emtion, consciousness or life either though, so meh <8> there are foreigners in the US army? <4> elwzer: yes. <1> i don't believe in killing, unless they are arabs, russians, germans, japanese or vietnamese or whatever we are fighting. <1> elwzer, yea. you can get citizenship by serving. <3> OrngeTide: Wanna move to Japan with me, they're having a baby shortage and I've offered to help <1> you need to speak english to get in though. <1> zid_, AWESOME <1> i'd totally help japan out and do some of their women <9> :O <8> oh ok i thought it was like <8> you're a foreigner <1> i think my fiance might not let me though. <8> and you just join <8> for the hell of it <3> I'd educate all the 12 year olds in the ways of wang
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