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<0> I just use mutexes and p*** stuff directly
<1> i looked around on google and in various man pages it says it's not possible
<2> pthread_sigwait is the only way to handle signals in the presence of threads
<2> *the only*
<3> wtf
<3> stepmania keeps bailing at random
<2> because yuo can't even lock mutex in the signal handler
<1> my pthreads doesnt have pthread_sigwait
<2> or you can send a byte/int into some pipe in the signal handler, and use poll in the other thread
<0> wouldn't it have great potential for fun if you could
<2> this is safe, too
<0> use pipe
<2> s/pthread_sigwait/sigwait/
<2> pipe between threads is good, too
<4> sigwait *should* be fine, though for this purpose sigwaitinfo would be better.
<2> signals + threads = mess
<2> sometimes, i prefer multiple processes to multiple threads
<4> isolation is your friend!
<4> mit pthreads has pthread_sigwait, but that is an artifact of being user-space threads.
<3> OrngeTide are joo awake ye
<2> ;
<5> sorry about that
<6> i like both germany and italy :P
<4> so they should both lose?
<6> dude...
<4> well, they can't both win.
<7> we can still love them both!
<6> exactly
<4> so let them both lose.
<4> then neither will be "more" than the other.
<6> twkm: smoke some weed ^^
<4> well, that'll handle me, but what about your two loved teams? if you cheer for one baby whatshisname will cry.
<6> i would like to smoke a joint with you
<4> we'd have to go back in time quite a ways.
<3> Why, did your lungs fall off?
<8> hullo
<6> go watch the game
<4> zid_: no.
<6> Germany VS Italy
<4> zid_: that should be interesting, if you were to manage it. most people get it wrong for a long time, even though it manages to work, some.
<8> well... I've conclusively determined that there is little to no point in having a TV that has a tuner in it if one wants HDTV because you need a settop box for it anyways that outputs HDTV video.
<8> but all hdtv's have tuners...
<4> standard tuners in hdtv's are mostly for legacy connections to vcr's.
<3> hrmph, why the crap does my program not compile when all it has is ****ing HEADERS and main()
<4> hd tuners are to get hd channels off the air.
<5> twkm my hd tuner gets it off cable
<5> :P
<4> well, tuning anything that is standard, non-hd cable/sat, non-hd channels, etc.
<3> wow, i ****ing *SEGFAULTED* ld
<5> you have been h@xed
<4> rip: so you p*** just hdi to the tv, or does the cable box output asci?
<4> err, acsi.
<8> according to what I've been reading, I need an external ATSC tuner...
<3> ascii? :D
<3> i want an ascii dvd player
<8> oooh... that'd be funky... watching TV in ascii art.
<9> doesn't mplayer have an aalib backend?
<5> twkm, beyond that it gets the signal from cable i dont care what happens so i have no clue! :]
<4> mplayer -vo aa ...
<5> mplayer rules
<5> but ive found some nasty bugs in the wmv codecs
<5> and mp4
<3> ok, it compiles fine from bash, but from the Makefile it gives me ****ing odd errors and ld segfaults
<4> rip: but you have a nify cable between the cable box and the display, or plain old coax?
<5> twkm its nifty
<4> err, nifty.
<4> yeah, hdi then.
<5> came with the apartment
<4> sort of too bad, since that has all the anti-copy stuff in it.
<5> i dnt notice it at all
<5> it records shows fr me etc
<4> of course broadcasting an hd signal would too, so perhaps it is moot.
<5> never any deletion threats
<5> etc
<5> they shuld just give up this anticopying thing
<5> its futile
<5> as long as the signal gets decoded smewhere and viewed
<5> thats were ppl will hit
<8> (sigh)
<8> Why bother putting tuners in HDTV's at all if they require an external HD receive to be able to do high def?
<4> an hd tuner doesn't need anything except an antenna.
<8> or why don't they just build a high def tuner into the tv instead of requiring another one.
<4> hd-"ready" tv's (displays) do need them.
<8> because an external tuner will defeat capabilities that the TV might have like channel recall, surf, channel labelling, PiP, and others...
<4> they can. they do. you didn't purchase such a beast.
<4> e.g., sony's current lcd hdtv w/tuner ... http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=aWqVDuqtfomUaK4H2HefBaW8UfyHx4DpSC4=?CategoryName=tv_flatpanel_26to42&ProductSKU=KDL32S2000&Dept=tvvideo&INT=sstyle-tv-deptfeature-KDL32S2000|sstyle:sy_cat_content_p:tv
<4> of course it is 1700 bones.
<8> well, I haven't purchased any beast yet... I just want to make sure that when I do, I've got all the info to understand how well things will interoperate.
<3> I fixored ld, hooray
<8> twkm: I am expecting to spend about $1700 or so, actually...
<4> then there you go. list 1700.
<4> only 32" though. for a 40 you have to throw 800 more at them.
<4> some people don't want a tuner, because they are going, like rip, to get their stuff from cable.
<8> Ah...
<8> twkm: yeah, I am too...
<4> some cable/sat boxes already do the pip thing, so they leave the brains there and pay only for the nifty monitor.
<4> these days some dvr boxes even have triple tuners, so you can record two things and watch a third.
<3> who remembers how to set the cursor position in ncurses, I never can
<8> dvr's aren't really useable in Canada yet
<3> oh god, it's move() isn't it?
<4> yes. y,x
<4> MarkT-: no? not legal, or just nothing worth recording?
<3> too simple for me
<3> I was thinking gotoxy or something :p
<10> zid_: Making a roguelike or something?
<8> twkm: don't they require support from the cable company?
<3> I would, but I can't generate dungeon levels to save my life
<8> sid: gotoxy was a borland thing
<3> it's zid, not sid
<8> the s is just above the z... it was a typo.
<3> YEA RIGHT
<3> You're Just Stupid! Aren't yoU!
<8> whatebber
<10> zid_: There's a nice article somewhere about using cellular automata to generate a dungeon levels. (btw I'm Eid :P)
<4> MarkT-: well, depends on the type. usually it is best if the cable tuner and the dvr are integrated, but it can work separately.
<4> zid_: as in, goto(y,x)
<3> Eid..olos?
<10> Yes.
<3> I thought you went to work
<10> I'm getting ready.
<8> twkm: I've never seen any at Futureshop yet... that's all I know.
<3> heh
<3> I was thinking of making a telnet client and possibly making it into a bot
<10> Ah. Farmbot?
<4> MarkT-: oh well.
<3> Sartak: hahaha best nethack idea ever
<3> randomize monster letters not just objects
<3> purple h = goblin
<8> zid: do it the easy way... integrate it into ircII
<3> the **** is ircII
<8> it's an old irc client for unix.
<3> I use irssi
<3> only thing I ever made for an IRC client was rainbow-figlet.pl
<8> there are commands to run processes, and send stuff to a processs as well as read stuff back.
<3> /exec :P
<3> Sartak: can you IRC from work?
<10> Nope.
<3> what a ****ty job, quit
<10> I was bitching about it just last night. Making me come in on a holiday and not even giving me time-and-a-half-pay. ;)
<3> oh yea, it's the 4th over there
<8> speaking of bidirectional process communication, I really wish that popen(command,"r+w") worked for being able to read stuff from a command's output as well as send stuff to its standard input.
<11> markt, use socketpair()
<3> mmm, how do you set O_NONBLOCK on a socket descriptor dealie
<4> fcntl.
<3> yea I found it in teh end
<12> anyone know of a good tutorial for linux X programming? o
<12> o.O
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