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<0> Also they might well be nice and just pay me
<0> It's just a precaution
<1> i hate the companies that pay like 1/2 weeks behind
<1> they are always owing you 1/2 weeks of pay until you quit
<0> Yeah
<0> It's the small ones
<2> Actually, my small company gets me my paycheck one day after the end of the pay period.
<2> And I get my W2 (or is it W4?) in mid January.
<1> i think my company owes me like 5 days of pay
<0> What's a W2?
<1> because i started working in the middle of a pay period
<1> and i didnt get paid until the next end of a pay period
<1> but it was my normal 2-week salary
<1> not 2.5 weeks as it should have been
<1> err
<1> 3 weeks
<0> Eek 4am
<2> bynari: A W2 or W4 (again, I forget) is a statement that employers give to employees listing how much tax has been withheld from their pay.
<0> I must sleep. Later, guys
<1> that extra week is like 1.5 grand though =)
<1> and i want it
<1> later
<1> has anyone else noticed how alienating capitalism can be
<1> it's like.. my job is boring, and i don't have any ambition to work on any side projects like i did when i was younger
<1> but the pay is nice.. you need it
<2> It is interesting that you bring up capitalism whist I take away your private property (your money).
<1> it's almost exactly what karl marx was talking about
<2> I am redistributing your wealth (to me).
<1> haha
<1> go steal from the bourgeousie.. not me
<2> Communism needs to start at the bottom.
<2> Now fork over the rest of your cash!
<1> hehe
<2> Right then, #c is under communist rule. Lets start with a five year plan.
<2> In five years we'll have another plan.
<1> anyway though.. has anyone noticed that they are bored with their jobs and don't have any drive to work on anything of personal interest because you're always tired from working
<1> haha
<1> five year plan was stalin's thing
<1> i don't consider stalin to be much of a communist
<2> Yeah.
<2> I'm Stalin.
<1> state-monopoly capitalist maybe
<2> Don't piss me off!
<1> in fact the whole ussr was
<2> I occasionally run into people on the Internet who practically worship Stalin.
<1> that's retarded
<1> but i know what you mean
<1> i met a few people like that
<3> niv_, that is because they are lazy
<2> Because killing millions of your own people is such a noble cause.
<1> jeffloc: maybe.. but i work 8-12 hours a day
<1> jeffloc: i don't consider that lazy
<2> I'm not saying that capitalism has never killed anyone, but it seems communism tries really hard at it.
<1> alex: like i said man.. the ussr != communist, or even socialist
<3> then your chosen personal project is not as interesting as you thought. not to you anyway
<2> Communism was intended to be stateless.
<1> alex: exactly
<2> That tended to not work in practice.
<2> Then you had the whole Sino-Soviet split mess.
<1> exactly: it's the dictatorship of the proletariat, stateless, cl***less society
<2> And now you got a crazy communist ****er in North Korea who is going to get us all killed.
<1> so the term "communist state" is an oxymoron
<3> bull! all so called communtist governments have been nothing but dictatorships
<1> north korea = state, so not communist. and the whole juche thing is the antithesis of socialism
<2> That Kim Jong guy is going to cause a lot of trouble!
<1> hmm.. yeah.
<4> you guys arent using long enough words, clearly you're both wrong
<2> All while not caring for internal problems.
<2> He thinks it is okay to funnel 2.5% of North Korea's GDP into making a ****ing hotel out of substandard concrete.
<1> all the leninist/maoist models have degenerated into bourgeous capitalism over time
<1> china, ussr, etc.
<1> and they were state-monopoly capitalism before that
<1> it shows that a vanguard party can't successfully lead a people's revolution
<2> But it is all just one end of a continuous spectrum.
<2> You can argue that a country that simply has import tarrifs is on the other end of the same spectrum.
<1> because the vanguard party simply becomes a new bourgeousie
<1> a good model for socialism is the original soviet model
<1> soviet means "council" literally in russian
<1> everything was supposed to be run by workers' councils
<2> Until they had a supreme Soviet.
<1> but they became a simple rubber-stamping organization for the central committee of the communist party (which truly ran everything)
<1> even the supreme soviet was a rubber-stamping organization
<1> a true socialist society needs extreme decentralization
<5> can anyone tell me where i can get information on emaulating keystrokes with C in a windows console enviroment
<2> Rejected: That is off topic. We are talking about other things beginning with C. Like capitalism and communism.
<1> rejected: back in DOS days, you could stuff keystrokes into the keyboard input buffer in memory segment 0040
<5> in toherwords (i dont know)
<1> rejected: not sure about windows console though, that stuff is all protected mode -- maybe hijack a DLL
<2> Like a Win32 program would know what a segment was. :)
<2> And like anyone that comes here knows what a segment was.
<5> its seems odd that my friend has done it for project dolphin :)
<1> alex: yeah.. they know them as selectors for descriptors
<1> i remember when i was doing BBS hacking
<5> i found a document on doing it qwith c++
<2> niv_: They are just overloading the original term in that case.
<1> i wrote a TSR that would scan the screen repeatedly for a certain predetermined string, and then take all the text past that string and shove it into the keyboard-input buffer
<1> and then i'd send it to unsuspecting sysops under the guise of some useful tool
<1> and do up their bbs
<2> "This is a useful tool." "Duh okay!"
<6> bryno: I go work with Cherise
<6> bryno: yay
<1> alex: haha, just tell them it's a cheat for warcraft2 or something
<1> "warcraft 2 invisible ogres!!"
<2> They didn't have Warcraft anything in my day.
<1> cause they used to play games on the bbs
<1> using game connection
<1> i wrote an IPX emulator that would play warcraft2 and other ipx games over modem/serial
<7> aedinius, what?
<7> :D
<8> niv_ : how does it work?
<1> basically just an IPX packet driver that used async232 as it's transport
<8> niv_ : i just installed warcraft 2 BNE over wine and wanted to play it, but i can't get on ipx no matter what i try
<1> farhan: hook interrupt 2f for Novell IPX installation check, and 7a for the IPX send/get stuff
<8> your own interrupts? cool
<1> farhan: also int64 could be used for send/get, as well as a far call though both of those were later years
<8> i can't imagine basing my life around computers...
<1> most DOS games used int 7a to send packets, or maybe a far call to the address of the int 7a handler (which was faster)
<1> so you didn't need to handle int 64h really
<8> oh wait, you were using the original version of Warcraft?
<8> warcraft 2, i mean
<1> yeah
<1> the original DOS version
<8> yeah
<1> 1.22 i think
<1> or 1.23
<8> warcraft 2 bne was on windows, i believe
<1> it worked for netmech, doom, duke, etc
<1> but i also wrote non-IPX drivers for doom and duke3d
<1> because the API was well documented, and it was faster to have custom drivers for those than use the IPX driver
<1> because the IPX driver relied on hooking the timer interrupt to poll for incoming packets
<1> i suppose I could have just read any packets upon request, but the IPX documentation said that stuff should happen in the background
<1> because apps that called for a read expected it to return immediately
<1> funny how i remember this like it was recent.. this was 10+ years ago
<8> sometimes, i compare what i know about computers (in general) to what others know and its relatively nothing. but, then i think about all the energy people must spend in learning this stuff. They would have to base their life around a small box...weird
<1> it was actually what i really cut my teeth on for ASM/C under DOS
<1> heh
<1> yeah.. i used to spend lotsa hours a day working on my own projects like that and just learning
<1> until i became alienated by this capitalist machine
<1> heh
<8> niv_ : capitalism is good
<9> capitalism is meh
<9> I see no advantages/disadvantages of it over socialism
<8> i do
<8> lots
<2> The present implementation of capitalism is meh.
<8> there's no such thing as an implementation of capitalism
<9> Sure
<9> Completley free (laissez faire) ((god thats spelled wrong)) or somewhat restricted
<10> The current version is very buggy.
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