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<0> jeffloc: Well, depending on who I ask, no matter what I do I'm ****ed. <1> hah url? <0> http://crossbowproject.blogspot.com/ <2> aedinius, sounds bad <0> Hm. <0> I see that clearance means that drug abuse was not recent, but nothing defines "recent" <2> any record at all makes it unlikely they'll get into a government job <2> unless they are a super geek <0> That's the theory that my friend and I have <3> you're only allowed to have a record after you get in. <0> (He already has his clearance) <1> aedinius, arbitrarily decided :) <0> Yeah. <0> Well, the one guy claims that it can't be within a year or something <0> That seems way too low, imo. <0> 5 years even.
<2> don't let them stop you <2> put in your application <0> Heh, I've never done any drugs. <2> and don't try to lie about anything <0> illegal drugs, at least. <0> I consume m***ive amounts of caffine. <4> Gambit-, Gambit-, Gambit-! <1> Dmionstratiably Dminted <1> aedinius, caffine is ok because it makes you more productive. Anything that makes you less productive is illegal. <0> Okay! <5> cocaine? <0> Actually, caffeine distracts me. <5> that makes you more productive <0> But without caffeine, I'm distracted even more. <0> So I guess it's the lesser of two evils. <1> niv_, yeah, but it's injested in a gross fashion. Anyways, it's practically legal as long as you're above a certain social level <1> Dmi, I'm about to leave, did you want something? <5> hmm <5> I could never get into NSA <5> Too many computer tampering charges <0> Heh. <5> and drug charges <2> I could. no criminal record at all. too bad I'm not really good at anything <0> Or maybe I could. <0> Let's find out OMG! <2> that might be a problem <5> I have a lot of knowledge that I could put to use for something like that.. but do government jobs pay well? <5> I mean I know govt jobs have great benefits and pensions <5> but the pay <1> niv_, not really :) <5> like I know someone who is really high up at a certain federal agency <0> Military pays well. <2> niv_, once you get promoted a few times they do. not at the beginning though <1> niv_, you're better off workin as a consultant for the empir- I mean, government, they get paid bucketloads. <5> and she is only making $160k <5> which is like tops for her agency <0> niv, "only" <0> That's plenty. <1> niv_, I didn't know you knew condolina rice <5> yeah but you know what i mean <1> aedinius, that's like middle management at some companies. <5> civilian sector you'd be netting $300k+ <0> The job I'm going to might pay me $25k a year or so. <5> wow <0> Maybe. <5> that's like mcdonalds in new york city <0> Really? <5> damn dude <0> Heh. <5> yah <0> Nice. <1> only job I have right now pays me about $15k/year, but I'm also in egypt :) <0> At my last job I was making $16k <5> i make about $70k a year <0> Nice. <0> At my last job I drank coffee <0> And chatted with the office manager <5> you know what
<0> Oh and I did some PHP and HPUX/Solaris admin <5> my job rules except for the fact that I actually have to show up <0> I got fired because I refused to do Windows admin <5> if it werent for that little part, I would think I had the best job inthe world <6> Ahah, nice job, aedi <0> Yeah, and they wouldn't give me enough to learn it <5> just check my bank account every two weeks and see my paycheck appear <2> windows admin isn't hard <0> They hried me because of HPUX skills <5> word <0> jeffloc: I was handed two Win2k servers and told to migrate stuff to a single Win2k3 <0> During the middle of the day. <2> and wanted to screw more out of you <0> oh, and they can't have downtime. <0> So. <1> well anyways, time to go debug some more windows machines. <6> Have fun now, gambit <0> I had no idea what I was doing. <1> Wee. <6> aedi: Any jobs in your area at the moment? <5> gambit: lkd rules for that <0> Two9A: Sure. <1> niv_, nothing that intersting, actually, just devirusing... <6> Gambit-: Reformat! you know you want to <0> I've heard unofficial news that they're hiring in a datacenter here <5> ah <0> They're hiring 8 people <0> I'm one of the top two <5> Hmm <6> aedi: That'd be cool. I've got some good MS experience <2> well get on the list <5> What's the optimum amount of time to stay at a job <5> I think if I stay here too long I'll never leave <0> Two9A: They want Windows, RHEL, and FreeBSD. <2> until retirement <6> aedi: I can give them a lot on Windows, a fair amount on generic Linux (gentoo, in my case) <2> aedinius, they don't want much do they :) <5> I'm still young, I should be constantly moving around for a better job <0> jeffloc: Nah. <0> jeffloc: I think you're required to join a WoW guild though <6> niv_: If you do that, you don't get much experience <0> I dunno if I can do that. <2> what is a wow guild? <0> I did rock when they quizzed me about Linux and FreeBSD though <6> aedi's having you on. There's no way a job would require a game <5> two9a: i dunno.. it seems like alot of people I know on IRC are moving around the country every 6 months and have been doing so for the last 5 years! <0> http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ <6> niv_: They can't have much good stuff on their resume then. <0> Two9A: No, apparently everyone there is in this guild. <6> "3 months in this datacenter, 6 months in this dev job" <6> If anything, it shows that you can't stick with anything :P <5> hmm yeah <2> niv_, thats's because their bosses keep wanting to replace them with people just out of UNI <5> nah this is actually a really smart person though <6> I didn't get a job just out of uni <0> I'm still in uni. <0> I have some experience though. <5> he has TS clearence and does infosec stuff <5> although he just landed a job as a CTO of some firm in dallas, so he'll be there a while i think <5> all the moving around seemed to pay off for this guy.. he was always getting an increase in salary.. i think he was moving for his own reasons, not because they didnt want him anymore <7> man <7> i cant understand <7> anyone know if <7> there is a nix function simliar to select? <7> i cant get it to work <2> you can't get select to work?? <2> try poll <6> If you can move around for a bigger salary each time, that's a side benefit <6> It shows up on your resume as "money whore" though <2> and that kind are usually full of **** and leve before thir new boss finds out <7> hmm <7> does poll have timeouts like select()?
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