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<0> jeffloc: Well, depending on who I ask, no matter what I do I'm ****ed.
<1> hah url?
<0> http://crossbowproject.blogspot.com/
<2> aedinius, sounds bad
<0> Hm.
<0> I see that clearance means that drug abuse was not recent, but nothing defines "recent"
<2> any record at all makes it unlikely they'll get into a government job
<2> unless they are a super geek
<0> That's the theory that my friend and I have
<3> you're only allowed to have a record after you get in.
<0> (He already has his clearance)
<1> aedinius, arbitrarily decided :)
<0> Yeah.
<0> Well, the one guy claims that it can't be within a year or something
<0> That seems way too low, imo.
<0> 5 years even.



<2> don't let them stop you
<2> put in your application
<0> Heh, I've never done any drugs.
<2> and don't try to lie about anything
<0> illegal drugs, at least.
<0> I consume m***ive amounts of caffine.
<4> Gambit-, Gambit-, Gambit-!
<1> Dmionstratiably Dminted
<1> aedinius, caffine is ok because it makes you more productive. Anything that makes you less productive is illegal.
<0> Okay!
<5> cocaine?
<0> Actually, caffeine distracts me.
<5> that makes you more productive
<0> But without caffeine, I'm distracted even more.
<0> So I guess it's the lesser of two evils.
<1> niv_, yeah, but it's injested in a gross fashion. Anyways, it's practically legal as long as you're above a certain social level
<1> Dmi, I'm about to leave, did you want something?
<5> hmm
<5> I could never get into NSA
<5> Too many computer tampering charges
<0> Heh.
<5> and drug charges
<2> I could. no criminal record at all. too bad I'm not really good at anything
<0> Or maybe I could.
<0> Let's find out OMG!
<2> that might be a problem
<5> I have a lot of knowledge that I could put to use for something like that.. but do government jobs pay well?
<5> I mean I know govt jobs have great benefits and pensions
<5> but the pay
<1> niv_, not really :)
<5> like I know someone who is really high up at a certain federal agency
<0> Military pays well.
<2> niv_, once you get promoted a few times they do. not at the beginning though
<1> niv_, you're better off workin as a consultant for the empir- I mean, government, they get paid bucketloads.
<5> and she is only making $160k
<5> which is like tops for her agency
<0> niv, "only"
<0> That's plenty.
<1> niv_, I didn't know you knew condolina rice
<5> yeah but you know what i mean
<1> aedinius, that's like middle management at some companies.
<5> civilian sector you'd be netting $300k+
<0> The job I'm going to might pay me $25k a year or so.
<5> wow
<0> Maybe.
<5> that's like mcdonalds in new york city
<0> Really?
<5> damn dude
<0> Heh.
<5> yah
<0> Nice.
<1> only job I have right now pays me about $15k/year, but I'm also in egypt :)
<0> At my last job I was making $16k
<5> i make about $70k a year
<0> Nice.
<0> At my last job I drank coffee
<0> And chatted with the office manager
<5> you know what



<0> Oh and I did some PHP and HPUX/Solaris admin
<5> my job rules except for the fact that I actually have to show up
<0> I got fired because I refused to do Windows admin
<5> if it werent for that little part, I would think I had the best job inthe world
<6> Ahah, nice job, aedi
<0> Yeah, and they wouldn't give me enough to learn it
<5> just check my bank account every two weeks and see my paycheck appear
<2> windows admin isn't hard
<0> They hried me because of HPUX skills
<5> word
<0> jeffloc: I was handed two Win2k servers and told to migrate stuff to a single Win2k3
<0> During the middle of the day.
<2> and wanted to screw more out of you
<0> oh, and they can't have downtime.
<0> So.
<1> well anyways, time to go debug some more windows machines.
<6> Have fun now, gambit
<0> I had no idea what I was doing.
<1> Wee.
<6> aedi: Any jobs in your area at the moment?
<5> gambit: lkd rules for that
<0> Two9A: Sure.
<1> niv_, nothing that intersting, actually, just devirusing...
<6> Gambit-: Reformat! you know you want to
<0> I've heard unofficial news that they're hiring in a datacenter here
<5> ah
<0> They're hiring 8 people
<0> I'm one of the top two
<5> Hmm
<6> aedi: That'd be cool. I've got some good MS experience
<2> well get on the list
<5> What's the optimum amount of time to stay at a job
<5> I think if I stay here too long I'll never leave
<0> Two9A: They want Windows, RHEL, and FreeBSD.
<2> until retirement
<6> aedi: I can give them a lot on Windows, a fair amount on generic Linux (gentoo, in my case)
<2> aedinius, they don't want much do they :)
<5> I'm still young, I should be constantly moving around for a better job
<0> jeffloc: Nah.
<0> jeffloc: I think you're required to join a WoW guild though
<6> niv_: If you do that, you don't get much experience
<0> I dunno if I can do that.
<2> what is a wow guild?
<0> I did rock when they quizzed me about Linux and FreeBSD though
<6> aedi's having you on. There's no way a job would require a game
<5> two9a: i dunno.. it seems like alot of people I know on IRC are moving around the country every 6 months and have been doing so for the last 5 years!
<0> http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/
<6> niv_: They can't have much good stuff on their resume then.
<0> Two9A: No, apparently everyone there is in this guild.
<6> "3 months in this datacenter, 6 months in this dev job"
<6> If anything, it shows that you can't stick with anything :P
<5> hmm yeah
<2> niv_, thats's because their bosses keep wanting to replace them with people just out of UNI
<5> nah this is actually a really smart person though
<6> I didn't get a job just out of uni
<0> I'm still in uni.
<0> I have some experience though.
<5> he has TS clearence and does infosec stuff
<5> although he just landed a job as a CTO of some firm in dallas, so he'll be there a while i think
<5> all the moving around seemed to pay off for this guy.. he was always getting an increase in salary.. i think he was moving for his own reasons, not because they didnt want him anymore
<7> man
<7> i cant understand
<7> anyone know if
<7> there is a nix function simliar to select?
<7> i cant get it to work
<2> you can't get select to work??
<2> try poll
<6> If you can move around for a bigger salary each time, that's a side benefit
<6> It shows up on your resume as "money whore" though
<2> and that kind are usually full of **** and leve before thir new boss finds out
<7> hmm
<7> does poll have timeouts like select()?


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