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<0> Limbo programming? Is that some kind of new sport?
<1> freakin solaris...
<2> farhan: What's up?
<3> :p
<1> aedinius : nothing, i screwed the install up and am suffering now...im reinstalling
<2> Heh.
<2> I've done that before
<1> i've alwasy wanted to toy around with solaris, but never had the chance
<1> and, i just ahold of an older computer
<1> im going to install solaris and some bsd version on it
<2> Solaris was nice, but I'm much happier with NetBSD-3.0 on this SPARC
<1> why's that?
<1> i seriously dont see the differences between the unix versions, after the initial configuration
<2> It's newer, runs smoother.
<2> Solaris 9 can run on this, but has too few drivers
<2> To have full support, I'd need like Solaris 2.6
<2> I should have my firewire case by Tuesday or Wednesday
<2> dcalc 42/4.3
<4> answer: 9.767441860465116
<1> aedinius : how is netbsd smoother?
<2> Given the feature set I wanted, NetBSD was a lot smaller than Solaris 9
<2> /dev/sd0a 17G 397M 15G 2% /
<1> heh, netbsd is almost as small as linux
<2> Memory: 133M Act, 340K Wired, 8636K Exec, 118M File, 88M Free
<2> I couldn't Linux to install on here
<1> why not?
<2> It'd be too much effort or take too long to get the onboard SCSI driver in a kernel.
<1> aedinius : i fail to see the unix's are different...honestly
<1> other than stuff at the kernel level
<1> everything one can do, the other can
<2> I just didn't want to take a week to get this box up and going with Linux or Solaris 2.6 (which I don't even have a copy of)
<2> OpenBSD worked beautifully except it didn't support the second CPU
<1> a week?
<1> linux takes me a couple hours to configure just the way i want it to...then again im a home user. What do you do?
<2> I couldn't find a recent distro of Linux that had a kernel that would boot from the onboard SCSI
<2> I could 1) rebuild a kernel on that box, which would take ages 2) I could setup a cross-build environment on another box and build, which would still take ages and pains.
<2> !onyrb iH
<2> .thgir si dnuh kniht I
<5> yeah yeah.
<1> i think we should arrest spammers
<1> or fine them high high amounts
<1> that....or dos attack their servers
<6> i think "we" would, if we could find them more easiler.
<7> I think we should fine the credit card companies that transfer money to the spammers.
<1> aedinius : you around?
<2> Of course not.
<0> their ***es should be handed to them, by roughing them up good, with knucklebusters... the spammers that is
<2> Shh. No talking during the movie.
<1> aedinius : sunos has its own version of X?
<1> why?
<1> that seems to wasteful
<2> Uhm, what version would you want it to use?
<1> X11
<2> X11 is a protocol.
<8> LOLZ
<9> haha
<8> pizwned
<1> you know what i mean, im sure
<2> Anyway.
<1> the one everyone else uses
<8> I do but I'll pretend like I don't
<2> Which one is that?
<8> so stfu n00b
<2> Solaris10 comes with X.org
<9> farhan, different platform, different architecture, different hardware, etc...
<1> sbahra : so?
<2> Solaris 9 and before use the old openwin server that predates XFree86 and X.Org
<9> farhan, they've had an X11 server implementation for a while now...they have good reason to continue their development. :-/
<8> I didn't know solX used x.org
<8> last solaris I used was 7
<1> aedinius : i just booted up, and it asked me to install other software from the Solaris 2 CD or NFS...but i did not configure my network cards anywhere. How do i do this?
<9> farhan, it will ask on the next step.
<1> how cna i use nfs before configuring my network interfaces?
<9> ...
<6> it sounds unlikely you can.
<1> yeah, which is why that makes no sense
<2> Solaris, iirc, uses NFS even without networking.
<2> Over loopback.
<9> aedinius, yes.
<1> aedinius : may i talk to you over msgs?
<8> poopback
<2> No.
<2> I said no talking during the movie.
<6> heh
<8> the old cleveland steamer
<9> farhan, they were being sarcastic dude...
<1> then how the heck am i supposed to do this?
<8> #c == Colaris
<9> farhan, try using your head.
<2> agh
<2> my hand and wrists hurt
<1> sbahra : i've used nfs for a while, and i fail to see how you can use it without an IP address other than 127
<9> ...
<1> how doesn't that make sense?
<10> farhan what is your question?
<1> if your computer doesn't even have a network card, how do you expect it to go online?
<9> ...
<9> farhan, try using your head.
<1> sbahra : you are probably thinking i should configure them somehow
<1> vio : i installed solaris a minute ago, and am trying to install the 2nd Software set. One of the ways of doing this is to install it over NFS, but none of my network cards are configured and i cannot get to a temrinal to configure them
<1> vio : how can i A) use the NFS method B) configure my network cards
<10> farhan how did you install it in the first place?
<1> by cd
<10> howcome you can't gt to a terminal then?
<1> vio : because, when i press alt-f2, it does not switch. Control-C prints out the escape code for control-c ^C
<10> when it boots, don't you get a login prompt or something like that?
<1> no, i JUST installed it, so it executed some scripts beforehand
<1> no login prompt as of yet
<9> vio, he's referring to installation through NFS.
<1> sbahra : can you give me a hint?
<10> farhan solaris doesn't have virtual terms if that's why you are pressing alt-f2
<1> yeah, i figured...
<10> farhan, why do you wanna install the rest of it via nfs?
<1> because i have attempted to burn the 2nd CD several times by using many burning softwares and it has failed. Solaris rejects the Cd saying it is not the right CD. I want to use NFS now as the solution
<10> farhan why don't you exit installer, configure networking, then run the install app again?
<1> is that the name of the program? installer?
<10> i've never installed solaris so i don't know
<10> there is a program that manages the installation process right... you can call it whatever you want :)
<1> yeah...but i don't know the name of that program, nor would i know how to figure out
<10> i dunno how you would invoke any kind of pckage management thing in solaris, sorry
<10> farhan, why don't you search on google for that info??
<1> i am....im at docs.sun.com
<1> err, www.sun.com/bigadmin
<10> maybe you can try #solaris too.. hehe
<1> yah, its like #idle though. conversations only occ***ionally spring up
<1> according to this website, its a bug in the installation scripts
<1> the frustration i feel right now is why i go out of my way to help people when they ask seemingly stupid questions
<11> welcome to irc
<12> please drive through to the next window
<9> "Package management" in Solaris? I wish.
<9> heh
<9> <1> threads? as in pthreads?
<9> <9> Yes, I was tuning an application.
<9> <1> that can be done on linux
<9> ...this guy is quickly getting on my nerves.
<1> nah, screw it
<1> im not gonna install solaris
<1> poor hardware support and terrible installer
<9> The installer is fine.
<9> It is not a platform you want to run if you're new to *nix.
<6> yeah, all installers should be like windows. no questions. well, okay you have to answer some, but not too many. well, okay about the same number as for solaris, but **** that, windows rules!
<1> sbahra : nah, the installer is no good
<1> you know why it wasn't lettting me install my network cards?
<1> i mean, configure them
<1> because it did not detect them
<6> duh?
<1> now, i understand if solaris only supports some 30 network cards. i can respect that
<9> How much do you know about the installer to defer it farhan? :-)
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