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<0> i wish i could null terminate an mmap'd buffer. so i wouldn't have to rewrite some of the standard string routines.
<1> rewrite mmap :P
<0> zid_, ahah
<0> zid_, if you used gnome terminal you could just click on hyperlinks.
<1> I don't have gnome or the gnome libs or the gnome wiiijets
<1> or any gnome apps either
<0> i don't blame you
<0> patch rxvt to do it:)
<1> xterm
<1> rxvt is too small
<0> too small?
<1> as in, the fonts are several millimeters tall
<1> about. 3
<0> uhh.. you just tell it to use a different font.
<0> rxvt supports multiple fonts :)
<1> not ***y ones



<0> it supports all of the fixed width bitmap fonts in X11.
<0> i like terminus font and profont.
<1> red steel looks pretty cool
<1> Omid Djalili is Britain's funniest Iranian stand-up comedian and actor. After great success at the Edinburgh Festival in 1995, Omid has become a Festival Fringe favourite with a string of sell-out shows.
<1> GOD DAMN X
<1> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5481335368476915030&q=wii
<0> i think you're just retarded and can't configure it properly. you should have used a newbie distro.
<1> firefox's 'copy' dealie only copies for certain ****
<1> I need to HILIGHT it
<0> yea. cut buffer versus selection buffer. that is indeed X11's fault. (it should not have two kinds)
<1> select buffer pisses me off, I like the way mirc does it
<1> if anyone says anything during the time you're trying to copy out of irssi, POOF, gone
<0> xterm kind of ****s because if there is something in the selection buffer, even if it's null. it will try and paste null. rather than looking in the cut buffer
<0> zid_, yea, gnome terminal works better in this regard.
<1> imo everything graphical in linux needs some serious standardization and general ***hattery removed
<0> well you have a right to be wrong.
<1> Windows has set behaviours, that's what makes it good
<1> linux has customization, and people take it too far
<0> you're more than free to invent yet another linux desktop environment. and it will be perfect until someone actually wants to run an application not written for it.
<1> "Oh, you want the mouse to go LEFT when you move it left? You'll have to recompile X with --mouse-backwards"
<0> basically gnome is perfect until you actually want to run something non-gnome (firefox, etc)
<1> hehe
<1> firefox is the only X app I like
<0> zid_, "The mouse position has changed, please reboot your computer" is kind of a Windows joke
<0> zid_, firefox is the app I hate the most
<1> I don't use guhnome
<2> OrageTide: Then how do you browse porn?
<0> i don't use gnome either. but it is well integrated with itself.
<1> pan
<0> Alex__, wget and feh.
<0> why would i look at porn in firefox? it's so slow and you can't go fullscreen
<0> pan is great, but it doesn't support jpg:P
<1> someone needs to make a serious version of X, which standards set in place and some kind of incentive for people to adhere to it, or for people to port things
<2> Back in the BBS days there was some kind of VGA thing that would display GIFs as you downloaded them.
<1> with*
<0> zid_, why don't you just roll your own distro and refuse to include all the crappy X apps.
<1> because I *WANT* the crappy X apps
<0> well if you invent a new model then those crappy X apps won't run on your system
<2> zid_: Fight OrageTide in a battle to the death.
<1> I just don't want them to use 14 different fonts, mouse behaviours, keyboard shortcuts and god knows what else
<0> because it's the apps that are crappy, not X. X is extremely well designed
<0> Alex__, YES
<1> OrngeTide: hence we need some kind of incentive for people to standardize
<1> set down some rules, you get a gold sticker if you use them
<0> zid_, incentive == refuse to use their apps
<1> and who am I? one person
<0> or just drag them out into the street and beat them
<1> unless that one person is someone like torvalds it ain't happening
<0> if torvalds told everyone to use gtk+ or qt i would tell torvalds to go **** himself.
<1> and where the crap is all my bandwidth going, or is it just my interweb
<0> and this is generally how the X community works.
<0> developers use and do whatever the hell tehy want to because: WE ARE NOT GETTING PAID FOR IT
<1> I want .Xsettings or whatever, and for apps to at least glance at it
<0> zid_, i'm packeting you.
<1> Ok.
<0> zid_, please stop reinventing the wheel.
<0> .Xdefaults
<1> AND THEY ALL IGNORE IT!
<0> if all apps used Xt like they were supposed to. then it wouldn't be an issue.
<0> zid_, xterm doesn't ignore it
<0> there is .Xresources too



<0> one is loaded into ram sort of like a registry so remote applications can see your global settings. and one is used just by apps that are ran locally.
<1> is there a top for bw? :P
<0> yea. ntop and a few others
<2> zid_: xnetload
<1> I have niether! GOD DAMNIT!
<0> please use a newbie distro instead of whatever the hell you are using
<1> linux from a swamp.
<1> (LFaS)
<0> i have this program on my other machine that does like a top-like list in text and it's realy nice and configurable. starts with a p. i don't remember the name though.
<1> ptop
<0> yea!
<0> wait. are you sue?
<0> s/sue/sure
<1> no
<0> well whatever it was it has a bunch of view modes
<1> I made it up
<3> i had this funny idea to figure out how the linux kernel stored the `uptime` variable, and writing a kernel module to change it :-)
<3> so, i'd make my uptime 30 years or something :_)
<0> it could be ptop. it could be poop. i honestly don't remember the name
<3> OrngeTide : is that response to me?
<0> farhan, no.
<0> i avoid talking to you
<3> :-(
<0> hehe.. i was kidding
<3> :-)
<3> i wonder what a good way to sort through this code is though...
<0> farhan, it's not hard to do. you access /dev/kmem and seek to the symbol shown in the system.amp
<0> s/amp/map
<4> hmm.
<1> OrngeTide: Want a kiss?
<3> OrngeTide : so, lseek to "c019350c t uptime_read_proc" ?
<0> no.
<3> the address 0xc019350c
<0> farhan, that's the function. there should be a symbol for the actual variable.
<1> 03:39:48 up 3 days, 47 min, 7 users, load average: 0.07, 0.27, 0.24
<1> 7 users, zid zid zid zid zid zid root
<3> OrngeTide : ah....i'd have to know the actual variable name though, which i don't
<0> probably has the word boot or start in it.
<0> uptime = current time - boot time
<3> hm...just because of the vastness of the kernel code, i woudln't even know how to begins searching for it
<3> even the symbol "uptime_read_proc" is buried somewhere in the code
<0> farhan, well lxr helps :)
<0> http://lxr.linux.no/
<3> ahh....excellent. i accidently did :wq instead of :q and changed the modified date of a file...that's gonna cost me when i recompile it
<0> why are you browsing the code as root?
<3> i just happened to be on root on that xterm window
<0> well i gotta go. adios.
<3> thanks
<1> I need gd apparently
<3> from the outside, there's not much a person can fool around with on my computer, but if you have an account, i guarantee you you could get root in a matter of days
<1> rm -rf thingIjustTriedToInstall/
<3> i don't run my computer very securely
<1> s/days/minutes
<1> in a couple of days I could just bruteforce the sodding p***word :P
<3> i'll suid-root stuff because my father needs to use my computer
<1> farhan: Can I have a shell plz?
<3> lol
<1> ffs
<1> gd doesn't acctualy compile
<1> it misses one of it's own headers and dies
<4> zid: if his computer really is insecure, you shouldn't need to ask
<1> there's a pretty big difference between printf(argv[1]); as root and having a totaly exposed network
<3> cout : why would someone want to have root on my computer? What could they possibly do? look at our family pictures?
<3> its like having the SSN number of a poor person. useless
<1> I'd just wanna see if I could
<4> farhan: use it in a DDoS attack, for one
<3> lol, true. i have excellent upload speed
<1> no one uses linux boxes for ddos attacks do they?
<1> they're too hard to pwn to collect for a 'D'dos
<4> zid: we had ours used for that purpose.
<4> found a rootkit hidden somewhere in /var with a bunch of ddos software
<1> most of them just get used for juarez
<1> which would be pretty cool, I need some more warez


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