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<0> <@rip> how about ****ing tracking them down and rescuing them :P
<0> <1> rip
<0> <@rip> like the USA
<0> yea there is a problem
<0> you ****ing retard, you cant read
<1> tracking them down?
<1> lol
<1> the us cant track ben laden
<0> the us couldnt track down a gl*** in a bar
<0> they wouldnt even keep watergate secret
<0> wtf do you expect
<2> rip: dude I hate people that **** at reading comprehension :/
<0> reisio tell me about it:P
<1> rip think about it lets say we didnt bombed lebanon so they could have moved the soldiers to Iran
<1> then what would happned?
<0> reisio yeah youre idea about ignore, was pretty sweet



<0> ignoring the ignorent ones
<2> I'm just multitasking :p
<1> :\
<1> and Im blind... lol...
<0> reisio repeating and repasting yourself is only that much entertaining :)
<2> mmm
<2> I'm in this silly discussion on wikipedia with someone that can't read
<2> and I'm just quoting myself over and over now
<2> they're never going to get it
<3> 01:08 < Dryanta> what would you guys suggest for my ssh sessions on my laptop timing out all the time
<4> Enable keepalives?
<3> you mean null ascii character keepalives?
<4> TCPKeepAlive in ssh_config
<0> its a configfil setting
<3> sshd_config or ssh_config
<0> its probably your router or isps fault tho
<3> rip: it IS my router
<3> but not for long :D
<4> It's probably running ipfw.
<0> so configure it :)
<3> no my router is configured, its just a linksys
<3> with a crappy comcast cable modem
<0> and linksys alone wouldnt give ya this problem
<0> unless its misconfigured
<0> i know i have several :)
<3> when in a few weeks ill have 108mbit full duplex mimo
<0> so it cant be like linksys :)
<3> on a 4 mi hop to my closest tower
<4> Many NAT implementations on routers will unfortunately have a very low timeout that can't be configured, or at least are very difficult to configure, often requiring to enter some sort of a console and finding a command documented in some obscure document somewhere deep in the companys ftp site.
<3> well, linksys combined with the fact my hosting provider has me rate limited in pf
<3> this wont be a problem in a few weeks again
<3> heh
<0> heh i know when i got this new isp
<0> my ssh sessions started timing ou
<0> out
<0> i tested with and without the router
<3> well my new isp will be me
<0> and as suspectec it was the isps fault
<0> so i called them
<0> and they deny everything
<3> and im sure its primarily the linksys because it only started doing this a few days ago
<0> because they dunno **** about what im talking abut
<0> theyre optimized for surfing and downloading
<0> yay
<0> i optimized their email client a bit.
<3> well im going to be two hops off my border
<3> with bgp announced asns and a dedicated pipe to my house
<3> no more timeouts :)
<0> its simply a configuration issue
<0> back in norway you would se typicaly alot of ppl configuring firewalls to do this inadvertedly because of their training
<3> okay were trying TCPKeepAlive yes
<3> which appears a relatively elegant solution
<0> the elegant solution is fixing your router
<0> this is simply a workaround :)
<0> my solution is gonna be switching isps
<0> contract ends in 3months\
<3> rip: i just told you, im getting a nstreme pipe from myself in about two weeks :)
<3> so im not going to bother to set up a new router between now and then
<3> because ill have to make a mikrotik to do the routing
<0> nobody is talking abut setting up a new router :) fixing it is the issue :)
<0> personally i like to fix stuff like that cuz it might be a learning experience



<0> but in my case i cant do ****
<0> cuz its my isps that does it to me
<0> so the workaround till i switch isps is using keepalive
<0> best solutin would be to have a mandatory death sentence for hiring ppl who dunno wtf they are doing
<2> heh
<0> beer
<3> [phocking@www ~]$ Read from remote host dryanta.com: Connection reset by peer
<3> Connection to dryanta.com closed.
<3> with TCPKeepAlive yes
<3> whereas the terminal i configured to send the 0 ansii idle code is still open
<0> whered u set it
<3> ssh_config
<0> use sshd_config on the target server
<0> :)
<3> ok brb
<0> that atleast solved my disconnections
<0> and of course restart sshd
<3> im back
<0> did u get the last two lines
<3> did you see my client leave? :)
<0> well you could been on a bnc :)
<0> that didnt log
<0> lots of ppl are :)
<3> [phocking@www /etc/ssh]$ sudo killall -HUP sshd
<3> 01:47 -!- Irssi: Client: irssi 0.8.9 (20031210 2316)
<3> 01:47 -!- ircd-ratbox-2.1.8(20060508_1-22415). irc.easynews.co
<0> i find that sometimes sshd ignores teh -HUP signal
<3> irssi > *
<0> so i usuually kill `cat /var/run/sshd.pid`; ssshd
<0> its .. lacks what makes epic and bx and ircii special in its userinterface:P
<0> atleast for me
<0> but it does have smething they dont have too
<0> something i wish they had
<0> i think its a matter of choice and experience tho
<3> i used to run bx
<3> i really like irssi way more
<0> bx is nothing without a good script
<3> THATS what i like about irssi :)
<0> irssi is worthless without a good script to me
<0> :)
<2> :p
<3> i dont need anything more than irssi plain vanilla, or maybe a theme
<3> it has all the functions im expecting
<3> and if not, im better at perl than tcl so meh
<0> there you go, themes are typically part of what makes a good script
<2> there's a theme on irssi.org I use
<0> heh well what does tcl have to do with anything
<0> epic supports perl too :)
<2> just puts the nicks/text as xchat does
<2> separated/aligned
<0> bx supports the ircii language
<0> well more the bx mod of it
<0> xchat needs some serious userinterface work
<2> it does okay
<0> its horrible :(
<0> but sadly one of the better
<0> for unices
<2> the nick coloring and nick completion needs a little
<3> irssi > bitchx > xchat
<0> the userinterface is way too little flexible
<0> epic > *
<3> im too old to switch irc clients heh
<0> cmparing xchat to bx or irssi
<0> is like
<0> comparing
<0> apples with penises
<2> atm the only things that bother me about xchat are (1) nick coloring ****s, (2) URI handling ****s, (3) I don't need to see my nick next to the input box (haven't looked into this much, might be a pref)
<0> the whole GUI settup annoys me, and the poor usercontrol handling
<0> and ther gui is very intuiative
<0> and it behaves very oddly, its prone to crashes
<0> and scripts crash to easily, speaking of which has irssi fixed the problem with scripts ****ing it up too easily
<0> remember gert was bitching about that
<0> yes i did a security job with one of the developers of irssi a few years ago
<0> auditing a network


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