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<0> is freeBSD a PITA to install? ..i've never rolled outside Windows.. but i need to work on a server and need to choose a unix based OS..
<1> PITA?
<2> pita :]
<2> pita the good or the user?
<0> pain in the ***..
<2> O_O
<2> are you gay?
<1> oh
<1> no
<1> its pretty easy
<1> good choice for a unix based os ;)
<2> pita?
<0> Logan: that would be a DITA (dildo ITA..)
<0> ok..
<2> O_O_
<2> O_o_O
<0> i've heard many unix systems take some setting up..
<1> yes they do
<0> not as straight forward as putting in a Windows CD..
<1> if u want it secure
<1> definitely not
<1> are u familiar with unix?
<2> windows vista will be more secure then openbsd
<0> not at all..
<1> hehe
<1> well
<1> i recommend u read some unix tutorials
<2> you can rofl now
<1> before u try and install it
<1> unix is nothing like windows
<2> unix ownz window
<1> but its tremendously powerful, u just gotta learn the basics first
<1> yep
<0> in what respect? it has a GUI, networking capabilities.. it's an OS..
<2> if you put vista and openbsd in the same room vista will be open's bitch
<0> do you mean like using it..?
<1> the gui is just a frontend for the command line =p
<1> yea
<1> and configuring it
<1> securing it
<1> just go find a beginner unix tutorial
<1> and surf to freebsd.org
<2> yeah if there is one thing that is fun in window
<1> and install it
<1> best way to learn is have a tutorial and hands on
<2> is the no need for configuration
<1> so there ya go =)
<2> :]
<1> look at windows' security ;)
<0> alright
<1> joe90: what do du need unix for?
<1> *u
<0> coding a server..
<1> oh so u're just gonna code on it?
<0> yeah.. but i have a long route ahead, becaues i don't really know the OS to begin with :D
<1> oh
<2> synapze microsoft knows she eat **** in that section so they made vista very secure but also a proformence killer
<1> so your server is gonna be for fbsd?
<1> or multiplatform?
<1> very secure, ill believe it when i see it
<1> hehe
<0> well, i'm gonna use prolly freepascal (so it could be linux / freeBSD).. i just need to decide which
<0> i'm well out of the loop when it comes to Unix..
<2> synapze I think the system will be very secure but also very slow
<1> well if u'er just gonna use it for coding
<1> i'd say go with linux
<1> cuz its easier to use and set up
<2> you will need a super computer for it
<0> oh right..
<1> freebsd is a bit harder to use
<1> it has more security tweaks
<0> i see..
<2> which distro?
<1> but fbsd will wor, cuz u dont need to configure it
<1> *work
<1> i ***umed u needed unix for a server
<0> yeah.. i've tried on windows, but it's crappy at holding many connections..
<0> i've heard unix is the way to go really..
<1> yep
<1> by far
<1> joe90: well if u have any questions later, feel free to ask
<1> im new to bsd but i'll do my best to help
<1> im a linux native
<1> *fairly new
<0> alright, ta.. i'll probably start with linux then.. i was just put off a bit by the 5 CDs of a fedora installation..
<0> seems rather bulky..
<0> i'm sure it can be customized though.. take out some of the overhead..
<2> (02:39:25) (@synapze) im a linux native
<2> which distro?
<3> joe90: you showed up
<3> heh
<0> certainly did :)
<0> you were right.. people are much more helpful in here.. heh
<3> thats because #freebsd is not a help channel
<3> and #freebsdhelp is a bunch of ***hats
<0> ah..
<1> Logan: slackware
<1> joe90: i think u only need 1-2 cd's to install
<1> i've never installed fedora, but usually 3 or so cd's are 3rd party software
<1> (optional)
<2> wow thats sad
<0> oh..
<1> 1 is prolly a base system
<1> and 2 is recommended packages
<1> im not saying that for sure, but thats *usually* how it is
<1> check fedora's site for an explanation of each cd
<2> I installed slax, I saw the really crapy GENERIC kernel that made it almost imposseble to work with
<2> so I move to freebsd
<1> i have slax
<1> i haven't used it yet though
<0> what about finding general applications for *nix.. you don't see many linux download software sites, i.e download.com etc..
<1> i was told its nice for wifi cracking
<1> joe90: thats the problem with nix, not much software for it
<3> synapze: naw debian
<1> u can install vmware though and run windows apps on nix
<3> but *BSD > *linux
<0> ah..
<1> Dryanta: yep
<1> personally i use xp as a desktop, cuz its use friendly and has lots of software
<1> and i use fbsd for a server implementation
<1> keep an ssh term open =)
<2> *BSD > *(!BSD)
<3> Logan: not true
<1> or if i need to get into xwindows i'll run an xserver on my pc
<2> O_O
<1> anyway
<1> dinner
<1> bbl
<2> windows is better?
<3> hpux and solaris
<3> sparc servers with 6 procs with 8 cores and > 1tb of memory
<3> but for most commercial applications bsd is perfectly fine
<3> but when you have services that big you need support
<3> unfortunately freebsd is free but no official authorized support is available
<2> :\
<3> if i call sun and my sparc machine is broke, they send someone out next day to fix it
<2> :)
<2> http://www.cnn.com/
<2> GO ISRAEL!!!!
<2> brb
<2> omg
<2> how the hell do I quit vi?
<2> amm is someone here?
<2> does anybody knows howto install the flash plugin for firefox?
<2> :\
<2> jahshua
<2> someone?
<2> Firefox looks for plugins in ~/.mozilla/plugins,
<2> /usr/local/lib/mozilla-plugins, and /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/plugins.
<2> The user environment variable MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH is not used on OpenBSD.
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