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<0> eeek
<0> wrong damn channel
<1> any of you guys run open?
<1> i was wondering if their is anything special i need to do to move from 3.8 to 3.9
<0> read the upgrade guide?
<1> is that on openbsd.org?
<1> ill check thnx
<0> np
<1> im kinda new with open
<1> ive ran freebsd for about 3 years and just got into open about a year ago
<1> finally learned pf
<0> cool, good choice. :)
<1> yeah its dope
<2> just help nigs when they come through
<3> who is Bawitdaba ?
<2> my friend
<2> he's cool
<3> k
<3> sup dude
<2> hes a linux whore
<2> trying to get some more linux/bsd heads in here
<2> hey
<4> is this a discussion or help channel?
<2> all of the above
<4> k-rad
<2> trying to get a lot more bsd users in here
<2> if you have friends, feel free to bring them :)
<2> i'm a web developer
<4> i tried to start my own #fbsdhelp after i got permbanned from #freebsdhelp because they are jerks
<2> and linux whore
<4> im a network engineer and bsd guru
<2> nice
<2> is that your site ?
<2> ever need any work done, let me know :P
<2> www.dolox.com/portfolio
<4> which site?
<2> your vhost
<4> www.dryanta.com is a 403
<4> www.no-wire.net is the host
<2> 403 ?
<2> http://dryanta.com/
<4> forbidden
<2> works for me
<4> almonds?
<2> yup
<4> heh no-wire.net is the one to look at
<4> thats me
<2> what's that ?
<4> thats the company i run
<4> no wire communications
<2> ever think about hiring a web designer ?
<2> layout is kind of oldish :l
<4> got two already :)
<4> you dont like the flash?
<4> i think its slick
<2> I like flash
<2> check out my portfolio :P
<2> www.dolox.com/portfolio
<4> i like your portfolio
<2> I'm big on flash :)
<4> but that oldish site has x-cart and is completely customzed w/ a cms and a lmp backend
<4> im big on php and ruby :D
<4> i can donate hosting for the site
<2> for what this channel ?
<2> the hosting is going to be free, I'm going to provide that
<4> Donations for bsd website coming...
<2> we just need to pay for the domain
<2> domains gonna be expensive
<2> gonna buy like www.bsd.st
<2> or something
<4> oh
<2> Before I was just talking about your website though
<2> if you needed someone to redesign it
<2> let me know :)
<4> how much do you charge?
<2> the donation page will be up soon, we're waiting on Klux
<2> it depends on what you want
<4> well that site once i get the crm and the site survey database done is truely my perfect website imho, i just want to know how much you charge in general, for like redesign and templates and shop rates
<4> because no-wire.net is great but i need another developer to sub to because i have a lot of work
<2> it depends
<2> it all depends on what you want
<2> if you want a basic professional layout
<2> logo & graphic design
<2> 100$
<2> a template
<2> 60-70$
<2> I try to keep it reasonable
<4> how old are you
<4> and how long have you been doing this
<2> 20
<2> 6-7 years
<2> probably longer
<2> been web designing a long time my friend :)
<3> openbsd
<3> oops
<4> hmm
<4> im getting old
<4> so how much do you guys know about usb dev entries and ppp scripts?
<4> wb
<2> thanks
<4> so
<4> what is the overall goal
<4> a user community/forum?
<2> probably
<4> make sure if there is a forum i am the mod of the embedded section :)
<2> this isn't going to happen for awhile
<2> we need to get the donation money up first
<4> just put it on a subdomain or bsdhelpcommunity.net or something for $7.95 for now, then collect donations for a new tld
<4> so you can work out the design/cms/forum
<5> does pf have something like the 'random' patch for iptables?
<4> what do you mean?
<4> what does the random patch for iptables do
<5> Randomizing
<5> The random match module matches packets based on nothing more than a random choice. You can tune the logic by setting the probability that a packet is matched anywhere between 0% and 100% of the time. Example applications include simulating a faulty connection or server or distributing load across multiple mirrored Web servers. The example below distributes Web traffic among three servers. The first rule sends 33% of the connections to the server at 192.168.0.1
<5> 00. The next 33% is sent to 192.168.0.101 and the last third catches the remainder and p***es them to 192.168.0.102:
<5> though that's not exactly what I remember of it back when I was wanting to play with it some time ago.. hrm..
<4> i dont know about doing it randomly, im sure i could... but that stuff is altq
<4> if you are working with percentages its not particturally random
<5> uhm, not traffic shaping
<5> anyway, just curious
<4> i wasnt aware that was how load balancing worked i always thought the newer strategy was a high-availability cluster on a multihomed network instead of different hosts
<5> I'm familiar with iptables and not pf. May be setting up another firewall device soon, and considering using something like pfSense
<4> pfsense is kinda cool but why not just use openbsd and pf?
<4> how much bw are you throwing at this firewall?
<5> well, that was really just an example of a use..
<5> probably more often used for the other
<5> not a lot. I'm not really a BSD guy
<5> and honestly, was looking for a simple-to-admin something, like smoothwall, m0n0wall, etc
<4> oh its all good man im not trying to be condescending
<4> heh
<5> yeah, me either
<4> im just trying to figure out if its mission critical or not
<4> for like your house or test bench or office
<5> just curious. And like I said, in looking at this 'random' patch again, I'm not sure it's what I thought it was... or rather could do what I wanted
<5> relatively 'mission critical'.. it will be in production and all.. but
<4> well how much bw is thrown at it peak?
<5> mission-critical is all sorta relative :)
<4> how many total connections
<4> how much do you make off it or lose off it when its not working etc
<5> this will be a low bandwidth firewall.. it's a tertiary network
<5> out of vengeance, we'll prolly but it on 10Mbps hubs :)
<4> make a single board computer and put mikrotik router os on it if you want ease of administration
<4> perfect
<4> or put a dom into an old 200mhz+ box with a few spare nics and make a router/firewall out of it
<5> yeah, hadn't considered mikrotik just because I was looking at free (it isn't.. or didn't used to be, did it?)
<5> anyway.. another question
<5> more along the lines of what I had wanted to do with the 'random' patch, and maybe you can tell me if it could be done [easily] with pf..
<4> its not free its cheap though
<5> I want to match particular packets (say, on IP) and then drop a particular (though maybe 'random') percentage of THOSE packets
<4> like a service curve?
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