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<0> one question........ did people live in harmony before they read the bible or koran or other things
<1> AKA finito, the end, abade abade abadeee er... that's all folks
<1> Define harmony
<1> cuz I don't think there's a living soul who lives in true harmony. Not even buddhists
<0> having a good life with inner peace
<1> what's a good life?
<2> I could just as well say "you need to take some courses on symbolic logic".
<0> a good life is feeling more happy then angry
<3> ok we moved on so why don't you jagger
<2> But it wouldn't make sense, because we're appealing to different sets of understandings.
<1> a good life to many people is owning lots of stuff and putting down the little guy. It makes them happy and they have inner peace and sleep well at night... However most wouldn't consider this harmonius
<0> with yerself and with the people among ya
<1> ok what about animals?
<1> plants?
<1> microbes?



<0> what about them |^-o-^|?
<1> well if we're to include others in this why not them too as well as other people?
<3> thank you
<0> sure why not
<2> I'm finished by default then. This debate has no resolution because there are no facts of the matter where spirituality is concerned.
<4> hi spincer00! please dont /msg people you dont know. We prefer to talk here in the channel.
<1> is a man who treats his fellow man like a brother but kicks his dog every day a harmonious man?
<0> but what is beiing good to nature
<0> cutting down a tree that good?
<1> exactly
<1> its all based on morals
<1> and morals are subjective
<0> cause we need heat to stay alive
<1> but we can do it with natural gas and that doesn't hurt a living thing
<0> so who desides it.....
<1> pop culture
<0> i think ya always need to deside for yerself
<5> hjello?
<0> if ya have peace with it
<0> its fine for you
<1> really what would you say if I told you I slept with a 14 year old girl?
<1> I'm 22 by the way
<6> ummm
<1> is that immoral?
<6> you say
<1> I didn't foxxie
<1> I'm jus sayin for example
<6> well she was cute
<0> hey if the girl is ok with it and so are you
<0> that's yer besiness
<1> ok what if she's 9?
<7> Jailbait
<1> or 5?
<7> rape
<0> maybe the girl ready for it
<0> i don't know
<6> ummm
<0> its not up to me to judge about it
<6> thats pushin i think
<0> it about yerself and the girl
<1> see if you start thinking like that then you wouldn't be able to take a moral standpoint on anything
<3> it's not right to take advantage of someone that is that young to understand what is going on around them
<8> some girls get married at 14
<5> 4on4??
<1> Bev I lost my virginity at age 6
<8> :)
<9> hi good morning
<0> do we need to take a moral standpoint?
<10> I just say follow the law
<0> why do we need to do that?
<0> hey fayola long time no see
<8> hi fay
<6> LadyinRed that was in Elizebethen time
<1> if we don't then what's to say its not ok to murder? or rape? or steal? I mean if he can't keep it why should he be allowed to?
<10> not worth going to jail over
<8> hugs
<10> hey LiR
<1> see but the law is made up by people like us



<1> and some laws are STUUUUPID
<0> i know
<0> but we try
<0> .....humans try
<0> the world tries .......
<1> For example in Canada it's illegal to have two bills facing in different directions in your wallet
<0> not all are bad
<1> no one enforces it
<1> but it is illegal
<0> and that is what keeps us sain
<10> lol
<7> lol for real?
<10> yeah
<1> for real
<1> yes
<10> but never enfourced
<7> thats some stupid ****
<1> its a real law has to do with defacing money
<7> bollocks
<0> oh well
<4> hi kumpl! please dont /msg people you dont know. We prefer to talk here in the channel.
<0> be good to yerself and another is my motto
<1> I know at least on US state has a law stating its illegal to see a moose from a plane
<1> one
<1> The golden rule
<7> omg it gets worse whatever next
<1> ah yes but what if you're a sado-masochist?
<1> Ever seen house of 1000 corpses or The Devils Rejects?
<0> brb
<7> iv'e seen the first one |^-o-^|
<1> That family is good to each other and by their moral standards killing is ok
<1> necrophilia is ok
<7> yup
<3> yep
<4> slm sssss! please dont /msg people you dont know. We prefer to talk here in the channel.
<1> but the moment someone tries to do the same to them it aint so fair anymore...
<3> true
<7> true that
<1> and everyone is like that
<1> you, me, that guy
<1> we all rationalise our 'deviant' behaviour
<1> I've stolen
<11> hey
<10> haha so true
<1> and I've felt justified in doing it
<11> stop
<1> however someone steals from me and they're a fookin bastad
<7> i havent stolen anything ever. so.....
<3> stop ehat
<3> what
<7> mmhhmm
<1> you ever hit someone ioan? You ever call someone names or hurt their feelings?
<1> its the same thing
<10> I'd punch a guy in self defence, but I wouldn't go ona punching rampage
<7> well not hit someone
<7> but names yeah
<7> only in anger
<1> so anger makes it ok to hurt someone elses feelings?
<1> to hurt them?
<7> well not intentionally
<7> cos it's usually not me
<7> like i'd be all calm and stuff one moment and some other feeling the next
<1> I consider myself a pacifist
<6> :)
<1> I've only ever hit one person once in anger when I was 15 and I truly regretted it right afterwards
<10> my older sister was like pitbull, she got in fights all the time
<11> hi there
<1> Whether it was cuz I made a dumb punch and hit him in the back of the head or because I felt really bad about hitting him is a lil waffly
<10> my twin was jus the person that pissed of everyone, then ppl would want to kick her *** and me and my older sister would have to defend her
<3> i hit one person and i didn't feel sorry for it afterwards
<1> And that doesn't count me beating up my cousin when I was like four


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