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<]Newt[> although, i do treat the internet like a religion.
<]Newt[> and id probably be distraught without it.
<LacnaCoil> How so?
<]Newt[> no WoW, no CS, no pointless chatting at 11:40pm...
<weeneldo> 4:40 am here
<]Newt[> plus I'm a web designer, so i'd be out a job.
<^-o-^> if the internet was never invented I'm sure we'd get along jsut fine
<]Newt[> The same could be said of God.
<]Newt[> or Jesus, or Allah, or Buddah, or whoever
<weeneldo> Santa?
<]Newt[> sure why not.
<weeneldo> yaaas
<^-o-^> its more if the internet suddenly dissapears that our government and economical structure will collapse
<]Newt[> well if religion suddenly dissappeared, people would go crazy
<^-o-^> though the states will have it much worse off then we, Canada, would
<weeneldo> the governments a bit **** anyway
<]Newt[> causing the two you mentioned to happen anyway
<^-o-^> merely cuz they have more people to riot
<LacnaCoil> All praise Santa. He gave his life so that we can have eternal presents
<]Newt[> <--- works for the govt :)
<]Newt[> Dept of Defense Web Designer.
<]Newt[> lol
<^-o-^> if religion suddenly dissapeared there would be no one left to go crazy
<]Newt[> I'd be here, but i wouldnt go crazy.
<^-o-^> if religion dissapeared we'd all be dead
<]Newt[> why?
<LacnaCoil> Thats true
<]Newt[> the Pope have nukes?
<weeneldo> oh yeah
<deciel> hi
<LacnaCoil> Wed have no self control
<]Newt[> I would
<weeneldo> hey
<^-o-^> cuz religion takes concious thought and is one of those things thats as constant as death or taxes
<]Newt[> I cant speak for most others
<^-o-^> so long as people live on religion will follow and influence them
<deciel> konnichiwa
<]Newt[> psh, philosophy can exist without religion
<]Newt[> even existential philosophy
<]Newt[> (although try telling that to the Kansas school board)
<deciel> i dont know howto use this
<]Newt[> hehe
<weeneldo> type /quit to get rid of all the crap
<]Newt[> lol
<]Newt[> Help > Mirc Help
<weeneldo> or that
<]Newt[> er, mirc.hlp
<deciel> ok thanks
<]Newt[> without religion all the scientists, atheists, and agnostics would probably function just like any other day of the week.
<]Newt[> its the bible belt, and the third world that we would need to worry about
<weeneldo> there will always be religion though
<]Newt[> yea probably
<weeneldo> because man will always question his origins
<^-o-^> no
<]Newt[> I was hoping against that, but then scientology made me feel like i was crazy.
<]Newt[> who could believe that crap?
<weeneldo> although organised religion we could go without
<LacnaCoil> scientology is retarded
<LacnaCoil> like really retarded man...
<]Newt[> well Ween, if i were a betting man, which I am, I would put my money on science finally proving all the things the Bible (and most other religious texts) think never happened
<^-o-^> some bits yes
<^-o-^> others no
<weeneldo> ween?
<]Newt[> like evolution, the growth of the universe, etc.
<]Newt[> yeah, you. I'm lazy
<weeneldo> oh, kk lol
<^-o-^> see the basics of scientology
<]Newt[> and Scientology is nuts, I've read Dianetics.
<^-o-^> is pretty much that creation theory is right. God did make us and whatnot, but he did it through the coarse of evolution and used the big bang to set it all in motion
<]Newt[> There are a few chapters that make you think about how the human body operates, but none of the religious bits are any good.
<LacnaCoil> People really believe that ****
<LacnaCoil> its retarded
<^-o-^> not really
<]Newt[> i dont buy that o
<^-o-^> I mean even bible scholars
<^-o-^> my name is not o
<]Newt[> it is when I'm lazy
<^-o-^> call me Red or Christian or Kitty or Hippy
<^-o-^> not o
<]Newt[> ^-o-^ takes too long.
<]Newt[> okay
<]Newt[> Red works.
<neldo> lets make up a name
<neldo> like george
<^-o-^> try ^tab tab tab
<LacnaCoil> Red
<]Newt[> still too long.
<]Newt[> lol
<LacnaCoil> haha
<]Newt[> shift key is too much work ;)
<]Newt[> Anyway....
<^-o-^> but I mean if you've read the bible
<]Newt[> I have.
<]Newt[> a few times.
<]Newt[> Love the contradictory bits.
<^-o-^> it says that god worked six days rested seventh took him a week to make the world
<LacnaCoil> I have to read the Bible every week
<]Newt[> but, that'll happen with more than 10 authors
<]Newt[> Right. But the problem with that is that many people took that LITERALLY.
<^-o-^> not really authors so much as scribes that are the problem
<]Newt[> and placed the age of the Earth at 6000 years old.
<]Newt[> which is ridiculous.
<^-o-^> well who's to say that each day wasn't an era?
<]Newt[> Lacna: thats not a bad thing.
<|neldo|> revelations is the best bit
<]Newt[> The Christian nut-jobs. That's who.
<LacnaCoil> I was reading Revelation today
<^-o-^> and making the earth actually took as long as the big bang took for the g***es and whatnot to coalesce
<LacnaCoil> thats the only interesting part
<]Newt[> Even after the Catholic Church has accepted things like the Big Bang as fact (which they did in 1985 i believe), many followers still ignore it.
<|neldo|> but what was there before that?
<LacnaCoil> although Songs of solom used to get me all horny
<|neldo|> how did those g***es get there?
<^-o-^> the big bang
<|neldo|> but they had to form from something
<]Newt[> If you want to think of how the big bang happened, think of this.
<^-o-^> at some point you have to either ***ume the universe is infinite or time is infinite
<|neldo|> you cant make something from nothing
<]Newt[> if an immovable object was hit by an unstoppable force
<^-o-^> either way the real answer is probably beyond our comprehension
<^-o-^> Neldo you can if you're god
<]Newt[> It's all in Phi, according to my Christian mother.
<]Newt[> God's "mathematical soultion"
<|neldo|> or we're all just part of a dream from a series of dallas
<]Newt[> lol
<^-o-^> that's how scientology works really
<]Newt[> most religion preys on peoples ignorance of the unknown
<]Newt[> which is sad.
<^-o-^> where'd the **** that we're made of come from... I dunno ask god. How big is the universe?... I dunno ask god
<]Newt[> thankfully, mankind is evolving out of that state.
<^-o-^> no
<^-o-^> thats not a bad state necisarrily
<^-o-^> and religion will never go away
<]Newt[> because some people "need" it?
<^-o-^> not while we're still human at least
<]Newt[> Despite that it wont, i still think it should.
<^-o-^> because religion is the opiate of the m***es
<]Newt[> because its mostly corrupt, and dishonest, and advantageous.
<^-o-^> its a drug that fuels people need to understand the unknown
<]Newt[> you know what could combat that? an education.
<LacnaCoil> Ive always wondred, what if everyone and everything around me was just something i imagioned. Liek a dream.
<]Newt[> Most people i know with an IQ over 130 are atheists or agnostic.
<^-o-^> perhaps at an administration level you're right very FEW religions manage to hold themselves to their ideals
<]Newt[> well it all boils down to mankind scribing the prophesy
<^-o-^> however to the m***es, joe workaholic religion is necesarry and not bad either
<]Newt[> and mankind is fallible
<king_arth> wala bang games dito!
<]Newt[> Lacna: you watch too much Lost! ;)


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