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<0> the technology is irelevant, it's the time and money saving that matters
<0> and asp.net absolutely thrashes asp3 on those counts
<1> but most of the customers arent aware
<0> customers want .net
<1> they dont ask for a form validation
<0> wether they know it or not
<1> so we dont do it
<0> but it's irrelevant - they want a product
<0> .net delivers them quicker
<1> hehe
<1> dont u get it
<0> I could probably rewrite all your 'libraries' in .net in a couple of days
<0> and then deploy apps with them in half the time it takes you in asp3
<1> my boss dont give a **** about the qualty of the probuce
<1> im sure ur right
<0> then you have to think of ways to convince him
<0> pick what does matter to him
<0> bend it
<1> hummm
<1> i wish
<1> i will need alot of work on that
<1> and i need to learn to work with it
<1> good enught first
<0> aye, you'll only be able to convince him you should use it if you know more about it
<1> coz im the cto...
<0> it's no use just arguing "cos it's better"
<1> ur right
<0> ur the cto and ur not allowed to choose which technology to use? o0
<1> ya and no
<1> coz he mange the paymets
<1> and he know i wont be there 4 ever
<1> and he is afraid that when i go he wont have no one in the price "i charg" to do the same job
<1> he want to get me a 5 year contract
<1> and that i will skip the army
<1> besides no one there know .net
<1> its a lame company
<1> the thing is that all the customers are satesfide with asp3
<1> for now
<0> well I think if I were you I'd use the company to get where you wanted to be
<0> use their time to learn what you want, try to leverage it into your work
<0> then when you can, leave
<0> cos it doesn't sound a fun place to stay forevr
<1> thats 4 sure
<1> the problem is the army
<1> i need to get into the army for ****ing 3 years
<1> and get payed 100$ per month
<1> i have 2-3 companies i sent my cv to then, and they wanted me but more time then i have till the army
<1> the thing is that they are willing to pay x2 then what im getting now
<0> I better get my stuff ready
<0> leave to go to belgium in an hour or so
<1> i better go to sleep
<1> its 7.38am
<0> goodnight - and don't complain about what you wanna do again in here til you've read all those .net books cover to cover ;)
<1> hehe
<0> you'll see the light
<1> man i own u
<1> thx alot
<0> nn
<1> owe
<1> cya bro
<0> cya
<1> one last Q
<1> g1bz
<1> u still here ?
<0> yup
<1> should i install vista ? or xp ? and what vresion of VS.NET should i get ?
<0> what OS are you on atm?
<1> xp
<1> pro
<0> that's perfect
<0> and if you'd have to pay for it, start with express
<1> im going to make a magor change to my comp
<0> if someone else is paying get the best you can
<0> ;D
<0> version 2005
<1> team smth ?
<0> pro should suffice for a single developer
<0> ummm, probably not needed yet, they're the same... but team sys has source control etc
<1> i still dont know the diff
<1> i want the simpelest one
<1> not to get too confused
<0> to do web apps - visual web developer
<0> msdn.microsoft.com/express
<0> download, install, go through quickstarts
<0> simple as that
<1> is that free ?
<0> yup
<1> amm
<0> asp.net has far more integrity than anything to do with asp3
<1> and for desktop
<0> pick a language
<0> visual C#?
<1> ya
<0> all on the link I gave you
<1> proboly
<0> the thing with getting visual studio instead of the express editions is you get all of it
<0> in one app
<0> my solutions usually consist of a cl*** library (.dll), a harness/tester (.exe) and my website, a C# based .aspx app
<0> something you can't do with express
<1> why ?
<0> but express is excellent for learning because it IS much simpler and restricted
<0> cos express is limited, cos it's free
<0> but it's still awesome
<0> and u can just upgrade straight to full vs after
<0> so no loss
<1> ahh
<1> thats cool
<1> if i get the full cd l8er i can update without ****ing up my system ?
<0> some of the quick starts will make you think "****, that would take ages in asp3"
<0> yup
<1> ok
<0> take a form which has full validation then emails the details to someone
<0> in asp3 u have to copy paste all the validation logic you write and output it using response.write...
<0> in .net you just drag validators onto the form and set their properties
<0> job done
<0> and the emailing is much much better too
<1> man u saved my day
<1> all i need now is some new ddr bars
<1> and some new fresh hdd
<1> and i can get running
<0> I could upgrade my pc atm.. but tbh I'm thinking that 40" LCD TV would be a far better investment :D
<1> lol
<1> well i have a p4 1.6
<0> this is only a 2.4
<1> 256sdram
<1> 40g
<1> ill get 512ddr
<1> and my 160g hdd
<0> you can develop fine with what you've got ;)
<1> i dono, my winwod got damn slow
<1> and i dont like to format a runing os
<1> i still have win98 on partition C
<1> my xp is on drive d
<1> i dont have more free space
<1> i have some mania
<0> lol, still got 98 on?
<1> yep
<1> not working with it tho
<1> but it saved my life few times
<0> I wrote a game in pascal that would work on that :D
<1> when xp didnt boot
<1> i had inet axx via the 98
<1> ok i guess ill call it a day. gn
<0> gotta go mate
<0> cya
<1> cya
<2> hello
<2> how can i ger the Folder On Server, without the file name : like in Request.ServerVariables ("script_name")
<2> without the (asp script) file name
<2> how can i delete 4 last letters from string?
<3> LEFT(str,LEN(str)-4)
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