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<0> ive got a pile of logitech serials that are still in excellent working shape, but who wants a serial and a mouse with no wheel
<0> naa, he hates excercise, he's just stuborn as hwell
<0> hell
<1> :)
<2> hehe
<1> I have a logitec CAT, but it keeps chasing the ball
<0> then he kept blowing these usr modems and i kept telling him how old my kflex was
<0> hoho
<2> LOL
<2> things used to be built to last
<2> with good quality..
<2> now.. most products are "ENGINEERED" to the lifespan of just over your warranty time
<2> period
<0> aye. its a shame
<0> thats biz tho
<2> so consumer are FORCED to continue to buy



<0> shouldnt be imo, but there it is
<3> yea the auto industry is especially bad for this
<3> They re-engineer components that perform beyond their specification to make it more cost effective
<0> no doubt
<3> ie. lets use plastic washers here instead of aluminum alloy,
<2> I read this paper once
<0> you can get 200k+ miles out of the average engine...unfortunately most of these modern engines will kill themselves easily if you put the pedal down. and they do an amazing job of it. no one can resist pumping it, so they cant get the 200kmiles out of it
<3> or, hmm this hinge is widthstanding 3 times the weight specified, lets toss a little less iron in the mix for the next batch so its a little cheaper
<2> that, product WERE designed to be lasting, and sturdy back in 70s and 80s
<2> but cheap asian made products... flooded the market
<0> aye, and even at that, cheap asian products can outlast american ones
<2> and somehow, ppl took note that, consumers dont' complaint much about the inferior quality
<3> damn asians
<3> lol
<2> so, now, the trend is to design the product to certain life span
<0> ive got a toyota camry 1988 with 250,000 miles on it
<2> intentionally!
<2> so, you are FORCE to buy it every few years
<2> gets company more profit
<3> well, VW jetta manufactured in Germany, lifespan of 300,000km avg. , same jetta manufactured from their mexican plant, 225,000km avg
<0> well if you follow the tempations of what a modern sedan will do, yeah, if you take it easy like you SHOULD on any car, you can make it last
<4> http://www.sonjaswette.com/index_en.html
<3> doesnt bother me, im a big fan of leasing vehicles
<3> soon as times up, bam brand new car
<2> hehe
<2> cars havn't evolve much for the past 10 years either
<3> well they have
<2> except, now everyone make SUVs.. in time of oil crisis
<3> but up till 10 years ago it was all about making the cars go fast while still being able to carry a load
<2> LOL
<2> now?
<3> now its about making a car go the speed needed, while cutting costs and adding features
<2> was it?
<2> thought it's the same for the past 10 years
<2> they still pushing for cars to go faster
<2> with even bigger horse power
<3> 10 years ago you couldnt pickup gps and digital inputs / outputs as standard packages
<2> think I just read latest Car magazine, and they were raving about the new lamborghini
<1> new Camaro looks nice
<3> 10 years ago you didnt adjust fuel intake on most cars via a laptop
<2> engine that can output 475KW
<2> 10KW more!
<3> also your sideview mirrors werent 6mbit cameras
<2> than older model
<5> lots of new safety stuff in the new cars
<5> ABS is still relatively new
<2> yeh true
<2> GPS..
<5> and the new balancing stuff
<1> makes it easier to pick up your body
<1> ;)
<3> ABS is the best feature since the airbag
<2> ABS, wasnt' that new
<2> thought ABS is been around for 20 years
<5> dunno
<2> it was on high end cars
<2> BMW, BENZ, etc
<5> my last car was a '98 and it only had it on the front
<3> 4 wheel steering is another feature I LOVE in a truck
<3> we were doin crazy spinning donuts in my buddy's new truck out on the lake ice w/ his all wheel steering
<3> Gforces like mad



<2> hehe
<1> hook up a tube and pull someone
<3> totally could of haha
<3> we did take my friend in a wheelchair for a skitchin' ride behind the truck on the highway at about 40
<1> LOL
<1> Yeah, we used to do bumped sliding down roads
<3> mind you he does halfpipe riding on his wheelchair
<1> just hold onto the bumper and let your feel slide on the snow
<1> feet*
<3> haha yea
<1> it's all good till you hit a pothole
<3> hit a pothole driving a overpowered 3 wheel golfcart at about 50km/hr and see how that goes
<3> a quick trip the ditch is how that goes
<2> I want my car to fly
<2> I mean, cmon' it's 2006
<3> http://www.xteamtyler.com/
<2> thought my car should drive for me by now.. like night rider
<3> theres my buddy's website
<3> why is windows so ghetto, like why the hell would the Install fonts option use old windows 3.1 type browsing, instead of viewing my documents, and desktop like every other folder viewing function in the damn OS
<3> its win XP , they've had the damn desktop since win95!
<6> and its worse with vista. It adds bloat, makes simple windows tasks more difficult to do. Basically adds nothing
<6> nothing of value
<7> menu fade in is pretty cool imo, just what i need on a workstation
<7> not to mention all the handy wizards, like the great desktop cleanup wizard...genious!
<6> hehe, and it launches the disk compression wizard by default
<6> just what I need to do!
<7> indeed
<8> Tranqui|: good question.. I have wondered about that 3.xx type of browsing with the install font dialog too
<8> Tranqui|: same thing with the games, like hearts and such.. they have still had that 16-bit look in win xp... but those are actually remade with flashier interface for vista, so who knows, might be a proper font install dialog in windows vista. finally...
<8> one of the things that bugs me... why on earth is there still no keyboard shortcut for "create new folder" in windows explorer
<8> even mac os x with all its point-and-click users got that
<0> dont worry, something 95ish will rear its head eventually
<6> hmm I'm gonna go look at my vista machine right now
<6> windows handling of fonts is rediculous
<0> im afraid of vista. i hope something else comes along b4 i'm forced into it
<6> hehe you dont want it
<0> im pretty sure thats true
<6> at idle mem useage is like 400MB
<6> with nothing installed or running
<6> what the hell is it doin
<0> hoarding i guess
<0> how many processes/threads/handles do you get after startup?
<0> i get 29/350ish/7000ish
<0> in xp
<6> I'll look, one sec
<6> fonts are still just in an explorer folder
<6> I doubt they changed much with it. My problem with fonts is the method they use makes it difficult for programs to access a great many fonts. really slows things down
<0> i notice that some programs dont show the whole list either
<6> 40/500/11000
<0> wow
<6> now its been running for awhile
<0> 11000 handles
<0> well
<0> k
<6> but there is nothing running or installed
<0> next time see what you've got after boot
<9> man, since i became faster than the internet, internet seems so slow
<6> like no antivirus
<6> or anything else
<6> its a fresh install
<0> when's the official release?
<8> mcarp: "when it is ready"
<0> oh....OH! yes....why yes...of course....what was....what was i thinking?
<8> they seem to be very afraid to give a date
<0> cant say its surprising
<0> but i shoulda known not to ask
<6> mcarp I rebooted it and waited a bit. it was 40/540/10500 appx
<0> wow
<6> yea interesting huh?
<0> yeah
<6> like its not DOING ANYTHING hehehe
<0> it says "bad design" to me
<0> well like we know there are tons of "services" running
<6> yea


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