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<0> that is what really annoys me about msdn, clearity, but only to a point....
<1> possibly
<1> having it spelled out takes all the fun out of it :)
<0> sigh..... welp, Im not mush for being hand held anyhow
<0> but, youd think the a & or a * used in the definition would imply something other than by value
<0> they dont show any symbolic reference regarding the params in those calls
<2> hi, i'm trying to make an update to my software, i mean the update my self. i asked someone and he told me i should make an dll insted of exe, and call it by my host program. anyone know what should i execly write in the dll?(just learned how to make it so not realy sure)
<2> someone?
<1> Let's say you have a bunch of routines that handle the printing of documents
<1> put those in one DLL
<1> Then you have a bunch more than do stuff for generating reports
<1> but those in another
<1> The idea being, that when you do have an update, you update individual parts, not one big 'ol huge *** EXE in one shot
<1> There is no difinitive way to say "this should be in a DLL and this should not"
<1> Either separate the code into logical sections that can work externally from the EXE, or just trial and error
<2> m.. i'm sorry for being ignorant, but it's kind of confusing me. u said i should download only slow parts insted of big one, but what if i want to change an exsistence code?



<1> Nothing to do with downloading or slow
<1> The idea here is modular design
<1> that way, EVERYTHING is not in app.exe
<1> Again, use the reports for an example
<1> create a DLL called reports.dll
<1> Inside of it are the functions necessary to create reports that your app uses
<1> you expose public functions called, say "MakeTimeReport()"
<2> why do my app need reports?
<1> you feed it the data that it needs, and it gives you back a report
<1> damnit
<2> reports of what?
<1> EXAMPLE
<1> ****ING EXMAPLE
<2> ok
<2> but reports of what?
<1> who gives a ****?
<1> EXAMPLE
<1> okey, not reports
<1> image generation
<1> Lets say a big part of your app is the generation of various images
<1> your create a DLL that has all teh functions required to generate the JPGs that your program outputs
<1> call it, imageMake.dll
<1> Again
<1> example
<1> completely conceptual
<1> just for understanding
<1> You expose public functions to generate these images, say "MakeGraphJPG(filename, size)"
<1> everything that MakeGraphJPG() needs is inside makeImage.dll
<1> It is completely 'modular'
<2> m.. ok got u, but if i need to change a part of an exsistence code?
<1> Again meaning you could use makeImage.dll in another project with little or no modification
<1> "of an existence code"?
<1> think of it this way
<1> as your app is now, everything is in the exe
<2> right
<1> you need to make a change, any change, you have to completely overwrite the entire EXE
<2> but let's say, even the little that will be in it, i want to change it.. just an IF
<1> Then you still have to release new files
<1> there is no reasonable way around that
<1> but at least this way, you ONLY need to give them makeImage.dll
<2> ur right, but what if i want to change something that is in the exe?
<1> OR the exe
<1> You will have to release the exe sometimes
<1> period
<2> ok got u.. tyvm man
<1> that is one 'module' in your 'modular design'
<1> doesn't mean you'll always have to re-release the exe, but only if you make changes in it
<1> this way, each dll and exe can be its own project. making the code smaller and easier to manage
<1> It's a lot like OOP concepts
<1> but dont worry about this right now
<2> ok got u completely. can u think about anything i should/can put in a dll that related to chat software?
<1> without knowing your app, what it does, or how it works, can't answer that
<2> just a chat software.. normal one
<1> why you should?
<1> all the reasons i just listed
<2> i'm not saying why
<2> i'm asking an idea for what.. an example of something i can put inside a dll
<2> chat software don't realy have functions so i don't know..
<1> then it's likely not important
<1> for a 50k exe, who cares
<2> lol k, ty



<1> there is not always a reason to do it
<2> cool :) ty
<2> m.. teycho, i want in my update to download the exe, but i want to make someone so the user won't be able to use it out of software. i though of puting it into a rar but it's realy complicated unzipping it with p***word through vb. i though of ecnrypting it, but i have no idea how to do that in a binary file
<1> ... i have no idea what you just said
<1> ask Doh_. he's a smart guy
<2> lol
<3> 42 apple wompadoo encrypt shikishikiwanko
<1> see? brilliant!
<2> just trying to get the exe update, without letting the user the possible to use it. i want only my software to be able to use it
<3> not possible
<2> sure? what about encrypting?
<3> not worth it
<3> anyone who wants to break it, will break it
<2> i don't think my software is that good lol
<2> but ya sure
<2> someone have an idea what i should build? i wanna build something big :\
<4> http://video.google.it/videoplay?docid=-6923364841565377388&q=cagiva+mito
<3> what is it
<4> cagiva mito 125cc reaches to 210kms/sec speed!
<4> but i still want HYOSUNG GT250R: http://bikebiz.com.au/v2/bikePhotos/GT250R_red_2.jpg
<4> here is max speed test video: http://fdc-3.download.hemenpaylas.com/03BBAC6209/260596/maxhiz.wmv
<4> anyone interested in motorbikes btw?
<5> Yeah, I like them when they're being crushed.
<5> Typically under the front wheels of a car, that's pleasing.
<4> well
<4> that doesnt count as interested;)
<4> bbl
<4> nite all
<0> anyone watch lou doubs about work/school visas?
<0> he's dead on track imho
<0> dam goverment cant answer even simple questions about the visas they hand out
<3> our whole governmental system is screwed up
<3> half our senators should be tried for treason
<3> emcumbancy is INSANE
<3> Gary Condit was it, who they thought killed his intern, and admitted to an affair, and yet he considered running for relection
<3> people go to JAIL for **** they did in office, get out, and WIN an election
<3> 'well they must be doing a hell of a job'
<3> and then like you said, our visa system is a joke
<6> do i have to pay if i want to ask something about vb?
<7> only if you want a *correct* amswer
<7> answer even
<6> so i c
<7> so ask
<6> so, why should i ask if it need to pay
<6> or the answer is not a correct one
<6> ...
<3> because its a goddamn JOKE
<6> what do u mean?
<3> ask your question
<6> k
<6> i have made a program using vb06
<6> then i meet a little trouble here
<6> i wonder what have i done
<6> but the program seems running well before i upgrade with a new form
<6> then the value of "Credit" where it should "as long" now become "TRUE"
<6> what was happened?
<3> probably a scope issue
<3> where it Credit dimmed
<6> on the module
<6> where my program start from "sub main()"
<3> in sub main, or outside it
<6> i dim my "credit" in module
<6> on the general
<6> as public
<6> public credit as long
<3> ok
<3> and you didn't accidentally dim it as boolean somewhere else?
<6> so what is going on?
<6> nope i don't think i think "credit" as a boolean
<6> but i got a form where have a lot of true and false statement
<7> search for dim credit or public credit or private credit
<3> whats the exact line


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