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<0> hello all
<0> any one is using crystal report here ?
<0> found it
<1> zzz
<2> indeed
<3> yeah, thats sad, they say it's rare for anyone to die from a sting ray barb.
<1> yeah
<3> I always sized up for a croc-pot
<3> sized him up rather
<4> in what winsock state does the socket sends the "SYN-ACK" thingy ?
<1> check it
<4> how ?
<1> winsock.state?
<4> yea but doesn't tell anything about syn-ack... just close,connected,connecting,pending,listening,closing,error
<3> a syn packet is sent by the system-a to REQUEST a tcp connection, a ACK packet is sent by system-b to ACCEPT connection requested.
<4> yea but in which socket.state ? i'm sure it's between 3 and 6... but which one exactly



<3> welp, Id guess its seperate states
<4> seperate state ?
<3> syn on a connection request, ack on connection accepted
<4> i'm talking about the connection request not accepted (sorry i forgot there's a big diffirence... my bad)
<3> your not gettin g a syn-ack in 1 packet are you?
<3> you shouldnt
<4> ok... the seq-ack... it's a number that "a" send asking "b" that i want to connect
<4> so "b" send "a"+1 number in reply
<3> you have a packet sniffer?
<3> its in the tcp options
<3> but, your using the control, yanno there is a socket property right <evil-grin>
<4> ... stop the evil grin
<3> so, you could just open the packet and spill out its flags in a select case statement
<3> just for debbuging
<4> hmmmm...
<3> select case socket.state : case .....
<3> then use the socket handle to create a copy of the socket structure
<3> to give you access to its goodies
<4> sockethandle? i was just surfing around it... whats that used for?
<4> my msdn doesn't explain alot
<3> gives you access to the underlying socket structure
<4> don't give me msdn's incomplete explaination please... explain more in a bit of more details
<3> I didnt
<4> ok then my bad again... but explain more please... what you said was tooooo short to understand
<3> it should be a handle to the socket_addr structure
<3> from that you should be able to work with other WS apis to gain access to its tcp options header
<4> hmmm... like something raw ?
<3> getsockopt() iirc
<3> tcp/ip packet format, byte 48 is the flags, this is where a UAPRSF(urgent,ack,psh,reset,syn,fin) flag is set
<3> anyhow, without going into details on how to sniff a packet thats how you could check the flags
<3> and, yeah, use raw
<3> otherwise you have to install a ndis packet driver to set it up
<4> woah... using the flags... never thought that vb could do that...
<3> you on P or 2k?
<3> Xp rather
<4> xp
<3> look up raw sockets
<5> raw sockets? someone going to be doing some packeting? ;)
<4> KyleL something like that :P
<3> sup KyleL
<5> hey guys, getting ready to do some coding
<3> he's wanting to know when a syn-ack occurs, what the socket states it occurs in
<5> I want to make some little samples to show some **** for a job interview I've got wed.
<5> its an informal type thing so I think the samples and me explaining them will be appropriate
<5> ah
<3> brush your teeth, and dont smoke prior to the interview! ;)
<4> do a calculator program... i usually do that when i "try" to teach someone vb :P
<1> do a trojan that can be remotely activated incase you don't get the job
<4> sounds cool
<3> take a contract on the job, anytime you need money, toggle the trojan!
<1> the "you should have hired me, bastards" trojan
<1> heh
<4> actually thats what pakis do in my country... whenever they want eextra money they toggle trojans and make some big stuff happens so they call'em and get paid
<1> here homeland security prevents spyware from working
<4> yea because your country doesn't have the letters "kuwait"
<4> anyone got eextra time?
<6> time is relative
<4> http://www.kbalertz.com/kb_237688.aspx
<4> there's lotsa stuff i can't understand
<4> Const SOL_SOCKET = 65535 ' Options for socket level. thats one
<4> and about the flags... i see flags thats i haven't saw before



<6> mmkay?
<4> wait... just 5 mins dad wants to talk to me
<4> ok back... and yea i think i got confused about sometihn'... control bit's aren't the flags right ?
<6> such as?
<1> http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc793.html
<1> read that plz
<4> thats what i'm reading right now
<4> the URG,Ack,PSH,RST,SYN,FIN control bit's aren't the flags in the code --> http://www.kbalertz.com/kb_237688.aspx right ?
<3> http://tangentsoft.net/wskfaq/articles/debugging-tcp.html
<3> nope
<4> ok... and can i control the "control bit's" somehow in vb6?
<6> "bits"
<3> I dont think you can control the flag bits
<3> you can check them using a raw socket
<3> its byte 48 in a tcp/ip packet as I mentioned before, lookup ethernet packet,tcp,tcp/ip packets
<3> http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/default0803.htm is a good source of protocols definitions
<4> my problem isn't in the tcp\ip protocol definition... my problem is to control it by vb6... and yea since i've seen sockethandle abd bind without thinking whats they are i thought of asking you
<3> ShipeR I think if you read http://tangentsoft.net/wskfaq/articles/debugging-tcp.html, you'll see something about a syn-ack packet.
<5> http://news.bostonherald.com/international/view.bg?articleid=155909
<5> Wild end for Irwin: Killed in freak attack by stingray
<7> who woulda thought he'd end up being killed by a wild animal
<1> irwin died?
<5> apparently
<6> there's a guy who I work with named 'Irwin'... when you said that, kickstand, my heart jumped with glee
<6> because the guy is a ****stick
<6> but then I remembered about steveo
<1> heh
<3> yeah, steve had a truely "nice" persona
<3> the world just became poorer today
<7> ahh good
<7> two kids in my town got hit today
<7> by an older driver
<7> they keep trying to make it harder for teenagers to drive here
<7> maybe its time to get old people off the road :p
<8> Anyone here?
<8> you here, Teycho?
<6> No
<8> seeing that you are, what data types are appropriate for programs with no stated data boundries?
<8> no stated upward limits on numerics?
<6> String
<8> for numeric datatypes?
<6> if you have no limit, then yes
<6> you will, of course, have to find/write a library to do math on it
<8> Outside the scope of the cl***
<6> Then use Long
<8> He states that he wants the most economic data types for the ***ignments
<8> but doesn't state what he thinks they should be
<6> with no upper limit, there's no way to determine that
<6> and tell him as such
<8> the ***ignments are from a book, he'll just say to use best judgement
<8> and if I'm wrong, he knocks points off for it
<8> 2 pts/wrong datatype, in his mind
<8> on a 10 pt ***ignment
<6> they're ****ing retarded
<6> What is the ***ignment doing with the numbers?
<8> haven't looked at the specific ***ignments yet...he made it a general rule for ALL ***ignments
<8> looking at the limited programs, my first ***umptions are short and single for most, truth told
<6> without looking at the specific ***ignment, there's also no way to know
<6> there is no short in vb
<8> In VB.NET 2k5 there is
<6> Then you should be in #vb.net, shouldn't you?
<8> what's the difference?
<6> one is .net
<6> the other is not
<6> consult the topic
<8> So this is for discussion of VB6?
<6> you know, the big string of **** that was sent to you when you first joined
<6> generally, yes
<8> ahh, well I'll remember that when I need advice on VBA bs
<8> as that's a subset of VB6
<6> vb != vba
<8> but much of the syntax, etc, IS VB6
<6> regardless


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