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<0> hello all <0> any one is using crystal report here ? <0> found it <1> zzz <2> indeed <3> yeah, thats sad, they say it's rare for anyone to die from a sting ray barb. <1> yeah <3> I always sized up for a croc-pot <3> sized him up rather <4> in what winsock state does the socket sends the "SYN-ACK" thingy ? <1> check it <4> how ? <1> winsock.state? <4> yea but doesn't tell anything about syn-ack... just close,connected,connecting,pending,listening,closing,error <3> a syn packet is sent by the system-a to REQUEST a tcp connection, a ACK packet is sent by system-b to ACCEPT connection requested. <4> yea but in which socket.state ? i'm sure it's between 3 and 6... but which one exactly
<3> welp, Id guess its seperate states <4> seperate state ? <3> syn on a connection request, ack on connection accepted <4> i'm talking about the connection request not accepted (sorry i forgot there's a big diffirence... my bad) <3> your not gettin g a syn-ack in 1 packet are you? <3> you shouldnt <4> ok... the seq-ack... it's a number that "a" send asking "b" that i want to connect <4> so "b" send "a"+1 number in reply <3> you have a packet sniffer? <3> its in the tcp options <3> but, your using the control, yanno there is a socket property right <evil-grin> <4> ... stop the evil grin <3> so, you could just open the packet and spill out its flags in a select case statement <3> just for debbuging <4> hmmmm... <3> select case socket.state : case ..... <3> then use the socket handle to create a copy of the socket structure <3> to give you access to its goodies <4> sockethandle? i was just surfing around it... whats that used for? <4> my msdn doesn't explain alot <3> gives you access to the underlying socket structure <4> don't give me msdn's incomplete explaination please... explain more in a bit of more details <3> I didnt <4> ok then my bad again... but explain more please... what you said was tooooo short to understand <3> it should be a handle to the socket_addr structure <3> from that you should be able to work with other WS apis to gain access to its tcp options header <4> hmmm... like something raw ? <3> getsockopt() iirc <3> tcp/ip packet format, byte 48 is the flags, this is where a UAPRSF(urgent,ack,psh,reset,syn,fin) flag is set <3> anyhow, without going into details on how to sniff a packet thats how you could check the flags <3> and, yeah, use raw <3> otherwise you have to install a ndis packet driver to set it up <4> woah... using the flags... never thought that vb could do that... <3> you on P or 2k? <3> Xp rather <4> xp <3> look up raw sockets <5> raw sockets? someone going to be doing some packeting? ;) <4> KyleL something like that :P <3> sup KyleL <5> hey guys, getting ready to do some coding <3> he's wanting to know when a syn-ack occurs, what the socket states it occurs in <5> I want to make some little samples to show some **** for a job interview I've got wed. <5> its an informal type thing so I think the samples and me explaining them will be appropriate <5> ah <3> brush your teeth, and dont smoke prior to the interview! ;) <4> do a calculator program... i usually do that when i "try" to teach someone vb :P <1> do a trojan that can be remotely activated incase you don't get the job <4> sounds cool <3> take a contract on the job, anytime you need money, toggle the trojan! <1> the "you should have hired me, bastards" trojan <1> heh <4> actually thats what pakis do in my country... whenever they want eextra money they toggle trojans and make some big stuff happens so they call'em and get paid <1> here homeland security prevents spyware from working <4> yea because your country doesn't have the letters "kuwait" <4> anyone got eextra time? <6> time is relative <4> http://www.kbalertz.com/kb_237688.aspx <4> there's lotsa stuff i can't understand <4> Const SOL_SOCKET = 65535 ' Options for socket level. thats one <4> and about the flags... i see flags thats i haven't saw before
<6> mmkay? <4> wait... just 5 mins dad wants to talk to me <4> ok back... and yea i think i got confused about sometihn'... control bit's aren't the flags right ? <6> such as? <1> http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc793.html <1> read that plz <4> thats what i'm reading right now <4> the URG,Ack,PSH,RST,SYN,FIN control bit's aren't the flags in the code --> http://www.kbalertz.com/kb_237688.aspx right ? <3> http://tangentsoft.net/wskfaq/articles/debugging-tcp.html <3> nope <4> ok... and can i control the "control bit's" somehow in vb6? <6> "bits" <3> I dont think you can control the flag bits <3> you can check them using a raw socket <3> its byte 48 in a tcp/ip packet as I mentioned before, lookup ethernet packet,tcp,tcp/ip packets <3> http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/default0803.htm is a good source of protocols definitions <4> my problem isn't in the tcp\ip protocol definition... my problem is to control it by vb6... and yea since i've seen sockethandle abd bind without thinking whats they are i thought of asking you <3> ShipeR I think if you read http://tangentsoft.net/wskfaq/articles/debugging-tcp.html, you'll see something about a syn-ack packet. <5> http://news.bostonherald.com/international/view.bg?articleid=155909 <5> Wild end for Irwin: Killed in freak attack by stingray <7> who woulda thought he'd end up being killed by a wild animal <1> irwin died? <5> apparently <6> there's a guy who I work with named 'Irwin'... when you said that, kickstand, my heart jumped with glee <6> because the guy is a ****stick <6> but then I remembered about steveo <1> heh <3> yeah, steve had a truely "nice" persona <3> the world just became poorer today <7> ahh good <7> two kids in my town got hit today <7> by an older driver <7> they keep trying to make it harder for teenagers to drive here <7> maybe its time to get old people off the road :p <8> Anyone here? <8> you here, Teycho? <6> No <8> seeing that you are, what data types are appropriate for programs with no stated data boundries? <8> no stated upward limits on numerics? <6> String <8> for numeric datatypes? <6> if you have no limit, then yes <6> you will, of course, have to find/write a library to do math on it <8> Outside the scope of the cl*** <6> Then use Long <8> He states that he wants the most economic data types for the ***ignments <8> but doesn't state what he thinks they should be <6> with no upper limit, there's no way to determine that <6> and tell him as such <8> the ***ignments are from a book, he'll just say to use best judgement <8> and if I'm wrong, he knocks points off for it <8> 2 pts/wrong datatype, in his mind <8> on a 10 pt ***ignment <6> they're ****ing retarded <6> What is the ***ignment doing with the numbers? <8> haven't looked at the specific ***ignments yet...he made it a general rule for ALL ***ignments <8> looking at the limited programs, my first ***umptions are short and single for most, truth told <6> without looking at the specific ***ignment, there's also no way to know <6> there is no short in vb <8> In VB.NET 2k5 there is <6> Then you should be in #vb.net, shouldn't you? <8> what's the difference? <6> one is .net <6> the other is not <6> consult the topic <8> So this is for discussion of VB6? <6> you know, the big string of **** that was sent to you when you first joined <6> generally, yes <8> ahh, well I'll remember that when I need advice on VBA bs <8> as that's a subset of VB6 <6> vb != vba <8> but much of the syntax, etc, IS VB6 <6> regardless
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