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<0> how's it going?
<1> hotly!
<0> heh - what is it there?
<2> purple!
<1> i dunno, actually, it's just hot
<0> heh... it has cooled down here
<1> muggy really.
<0> 77F at the moment
<0> we've got the AC on
<2> muggy here too
<1> other than that... i went to Rhode Island this weekend
<0> according to nws, its muggy here
<1> i don't recommend it
<1> unless you like Dunkin' Donuts, there's one on every ****ing block



<2> 76 and muggy in nyc
<0> pizza_milkshake: thankfully, I've quelled any urges to travel to RI, recently...
<0> storms are headed this way
<1> so i set up MediaWiki, the software that Wikipedia runs on, that **** is nice
<0> yeah? I've only been using moinmoin
<0> what's nice about it?
<1> easy to set up, works, that creating decent-looking, usable pages, and a whole site, is easy
<1> although i haven't really tried other wikis, so i guess i can't compare it
<0> ahh - what's it written in?
<1> php + mysql
<0> heh
<0> no wonder wikipedia is so slow :p
<1> is it?
<1> who, funky gui editor for moinmoin
<0> yeah, its strange
<0> pizza_milkshake: I've found it has its days
<0> its gotten better, recently
<1> haha, lists are whitespace-sensitive... it's written in python, it all makes sense ;-D
<1> hmm i like the table syntax better than wikipedia's which is pretty ugly
<1> but at any rate, wikis are ***y
<1> i've started putting all my notes into one instead of a regular notebook
<0> yeah, they have that usefulness
<0> we've been using it a lot for documentation for our group
<1> yeah we tried to bring it up with our management but they were suspicious
<2> i tried to install one on our intranet but they replaced it with vignette that nobody knows how to use
<2> and they paid like $25k for i
<2> t
<1> :/
<0> pizza_milkshake: we just started using it, and our boss didn't care as long as we were accomplishing work
<1> evulish: typical corporate solution :/
<0> vignette is awful
<2> but it uses java and oracle so it must be good!!
<0> :P
<1> yeah i think i'll just run it under the radar and use it for myself
<1> evulish: that makes it enterprise-pricable!
<2> i want to play around with reddot
<2> just personally.. but it seems pretty neat
<1> Rhode Island is 1,045 sq mi of land and has 124 Dunkin' Donuts
<1> that's one Dunkin' Donuts per 8.43 square miles
<1> so basically if you walk 3 miles in any direction you'll hit a Dunkin' Donuts.
<3> heh
<4> lol
<4> i dont see very many of those here
<2> haha. i'm reading ken lay's wikipedia entry
<1> actually, make that 1.3 miles, ***uming you're beginning in the center of a 3x3 mile square
<1> 1.5*
<3> hey pizza, any ideas on why all of a sudden eth0 doesn't work? i keep getting a network is unreachable error.
<2> he was nearly made secretary of the treasurey
<3> but if i byp*** the router and go straight to the modem, it works fine.
<1> ansimation: you mean if you plug your comp into the router things don't work, but if you plug straight into modem it works?
<3> yea
<1> my guess would be a problem with the router, but hey
<3> this pc is plugged to the router now though. as is wiggas.
<3> when i did come home though the router had fallen off the desk. probably the cat or something knocked it off.
<1> you'll have to lock the cat in the closet from now on
<3> yea
<1> if only all computer problems were this easy
<1> and fun
<3> but no, in all seriousness. why would the other machines work when connected to the router and not this one?



<1> hmm
<1> eth0 doesn't work at all?
<1> like, you can't get to the router?
<1> even though you're plugged into it?
<1> or you just can't get out?
<3> just cant get out
<3> i keep getting No DHCPOFFERS received. when trying ifup eth0
<1> ansimation: perhaps a router setting, # dhcp clients maxed out?
<3> it was working fine the oither day.
<3> other*
<3> i even put a secondary nic in just incase it was the onboard one that went out or something but that's not it either.
<1> ansimation: try plugging into a different slot
<1> it may have gone bad
<1> and you can try getting into your router config and seeing if anything is weird
<3> hrmm. dpkg -s pump and dpkg -s dhclient both return as not installed.
<1> what is this, freebsd?
<3> and one or the other should be, no?
<3> ubuntu
<1> i don't know what ubuntu uses
<3> same thing as debian i'm ***uming. :)
<1> yes, well i don't know what debian uses either, i've always seen dhclient, but who knows
<3> yea
<1> is `ifup` a script? you could see what it does
<1> or trace its execution
<5> I thought ubuntu has dhclient named something else?
<5> had*
<6> yeah, dhclient
<2> i always use dhcpcd
<5> That's it!
<7> Buenas
<3> hrm. it seems as i've gotten it fixed.
<3> we'll see.
<3> there was a blank row in the dhcp client table to i deleted it and then did ifup eth0 again and it grabbed it.
<1> oh yeah, dhcpcd
<3> cept the client hostnames for my linux machines are all ****ed. heh
<3> (((g
<3> when this one is ansi
<8> is PHP more secure or .net ?
<3> FRT is more secure
<2> Guest87677: that really depends on how secure you program
<1> Guest87677: insecure code can be written in any language
<8> that make sense evulish and pizza_milkshake
<3> ****ing rabbid tourists...
<3> ;/
<9> define "secure"
<2> ansimation: **** you, i work on wall st. talk about tourists.
<3> haha
<8> that people cant access database or do anything wrong with the site
<8> or access areas restricted
<3> wanna read this jornal baby?
<3> :X
<8> tell me the best way to handle sessions?
<2> session_start() and $_SESSION
<2> ..
<1> Guest87677: as far as security goes, don't put anything unnecessary in sessions
<1> for example, some people find it necessary to put a user's p***word in there. why, i could never find out.
<10> heh
<10> HAY GUYZ LETS PUT THEIR P***WORDS IN A WORLD READABLE FILE HUHUHUU
<1> also, as far as security goes, don't give Zenethian your p***word, even if he says he's an IRCop
<10> but I am one!
<10> In ...1998....
<2> i was an ircop for like 2 days and i didn't know it
<2> a buddy of mine had his server linked for 2 days
<10> lol
<3> heh
<3> ****
<3> i have to do community service tomorrow
<3> forgot all about it ;/
<3> g'night.
<6> lol
<6> god damnit


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