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<0> Connection: keep-alive;
<0> you mean?
<0> they've been doing that **** since IE4
<1> the core concept behind comet is not new
<1> but then again, neither was the core concept behind ajax
<0> once it's ***igned an acronym it gets huge
<2> hrmm
<1> they're just getting buzznames and robust implementations
<0> i remember playing with XmlHttpRequest ages ago
<2> anyone tried loaduing up apache and php and crap ion a thumbdrive?
<1> there's limited ajax-esque support for browsers up to like IE3 i think
<1> using new Image and cookies
<3> i'm gonna make a Zest programming language
<3> or Doritos
<4> damn... IE3 is so old I don't think I really need to worry about supporting it.
<4> Do I?



<0> ***id: yep
<3> lol
<2> jedzilla: it works?
<3> no kogi
<1> no, just making a point about the true age of these technologies
<3> IE4 i believe was WIndows 98
<3> anything before that i mean
<3> i doubt they'd still be using
<0> i programmed my drive to have a special python script to rename all the configuration files to the host's choice of drive letter and arrangement and what not
<4> cool... then I'm set
<4> thanks for the help, gues
<4> guys*
<3> and if it was on the internet... it would no doubt be updated to a later Browser
<0> so when you plug in the drive (on windows) it'd pop up a box that would let you relocate
<1> comet still relies on xmlhttprequest though, does it not?
<0> because different machines plop the drive in various places
<0> on linux it probably wouldn't be too far different
<2> right
<2> but im mostly looking at windows
<0> different machines will ***ign it a different drive
<4> Two-Bits: as far as I know
<2> and i want it to run off the drive itself.. including mysql
<0> i'm a huge fan of absolute pathnames, because i've had bad luck with like
<0> ..\foo\zippity
<2> i just use DOCUMENT_ROOT
<0> if you configure it all with relative pathnames i don't see why it couldn't work
<0> build from source and make sure it doesn't require registry
<2> build ?
<2> windows?
<1> or use tomcat?
<0> the Windows packaged versions of Apache and MySQL love to talk to the registry
<0> ***id: visual c++ express
<1> hrm.. not sure if php runs with tomcat
<0> i build everything on windows myself so i can full optimize
<2> damn i just threw that disc
<0> P4/SSE2 and all that
<2> how big is VC++ express
<0> you might have luck with the "vanilla" installers from the individual sites, but i've found they like to make registry stuff happen
<0> i build stuff as a rule
<2> and which apps do you get to take advantage of p4/sse2 ?
<2> arent most apps compiled with that anyways
<0> microsoft's compiler does it built-in
<0> no
<0> if you have SSE2/SSE3 instructions in the stream on code you run on a 486 it'll throw invalid opcode exceptions
<0> the default target in microsoft's compiler is -- pentium, maybe?
<0> maybe 486
<0> i got 10% faster renders in pov-ray because i enabled MMX and SSE2 and full code optimization when i compiled it myself
<4> is there any way to query a mysql database for just the last accessed time?
<0> you probably won't have to build
<2> pov-ray?
<4> mysql table, rather
<0> 3D raytracing
<0> my suggestion is to get the ZIP file versions of the products you want to put on the drive
<0> i know apache has one, i don't know about mysql
<0> i know php does too
<0> it's going to be a bitch in terms of configuration, and making sure all the DLLs are in the right places
<0> a helpful hint about runtime dependencies is that they search in the current directory as one of the first entries, so if you plop any DLLs that throw an error when you start php.exe into the dir where php.exe is, php.exe will find them
<1> that's not the case with dependencies of dependencies though
<0> just ignore all the "%SystemRoot%\System32" bull**** in the PHP install notes
<2> hrmm
<1> so far as i know anyway



<2> you know what.. screww it... dot know if it will work for others
<0> it's extremely doable
<0> making DLLs find each other is going to be the problem
<0> Two-Bits: yes it is
<2> yeah.. thats why i still to normal
<2> make some kind of package
<0> PE relocations don't map to an absolute pathname
<0> PE relocations map to "foo.dll:SomeExportedFunc@4"
<2> run thew exe for apache/php/mysql and setup my docroot.. and everything
<0> foo.dll is found by the OS
<1> correct, by the os
<0> so if yourapp.exe depends on foo.dll depends on bar.dll
<1> but i dont think "same path" is included in the search
<0> placing foo.dll in yourapp.exe's dir will throw a "Could not find bar.dll", placing bar.dll in yourapp.exe's dir will get rid of that error
<0> yes it is
<1> or would "same path" still be relative to the original exe?
<0> original EXE
<0> loading context
<1> because i know it's not according to the dll
<0> whatever getcwd() would return under a CRT environment
<0> when the loader is loading an EXE it sets the current directory to its location (unless you modify that with a shortcut) and then searches for dependencies from there
<2> maybe postgres can do something
<1> well if that's the case, either way, it's all doable
<1> just dump every happy binary into one cluster**** dir :)
<0> for a flash drive, yes
<0> or make it all .NET and have your flash drive install into the GAC
<1> i've only gone so far as to putting jre's on flashdrives
<0> and automatically unregister when you unplug it
<2> hrmm
<0> which would be mega cool
<2> i could use U3
<1> the GAC?
<0> global ***embly cache
<0> "insert my.dll version 1.4.65.8 key mqfiuhqweoifhqo into the GAC"
<0> satisfies dependencies on a specific version, it's how .NET is built for runtime dependencies
<0> C:\WINDOWS\***embly
<2> there is a ready made u3 version of apache mysql php i think
<2> but i wanna be able to use updated versions
<0> gets rid of versioning concerns, you could change your entire API from v1 to v2 and programs can still find v1 in the GAC because they specify a version to depend on in the file header
<0> i wish it was more general and not just .NET
<0> it's the coolest thing since sliced cheese
<0> linux needs something like that for shared libraries
<0> i'm actually thinking about gutting linux and implementing it
<5> hey pig. yeah, you. hey pig piggy pig pig pig.
<2> hrmm
<2> screw it
<0> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_***embly_Cache
<2> im gonna make them install everything on their drive
<5> black and blue and broken bones, you left me here. i'm all alone!
<0> if you eyeball that and remove ".NET", imagine how neato that would be for unix shared libraries
<2> and allow them to backup wherever the **** they want
<0> A computer has two .NET ***emblies both named ***emblyA, but one is version 1.0 and the other is version 2.0. Since it is required that both be compiled to a file named ***emblyA, they cannot exist in the same directory within the FAT32 filesystem. Instead, the virtual file system of the GAC can be used by applications that need to use each version of the ***embly specifically.
<0> change "***embly" to "shared library" and "FAT32" to "ext3"
<0> i think it would rock
<5> i hate exception handling
<5> public static void main(String[] args) throws Exception {
<5> **** it, java.
<0> C# removes the requirement for "throws"
<5> catch that, mother****er.
<0> i think that's the silliest java requirement ever
<3> JED
<0> how many p***es over compiled bytecode would it REALLY take to figure out how many exceptions the code can throw
<3> i just remembered something
<0> o rly?
<5> it seems like 'throws' is more for human interaction
<5> i have no idea what most of this **** throws
<0> it is
<3> my friend tells me this is caused by NTFS.. but i had a C: partition on one drive with XP installed... i got some new hardware, and installed a new windows XP on a different drive... i cannot access due to "access denied" error my old docsnsettings/~jon
<0> it is caused by NTFS
<3> is there any way around it, is my question to you
<0> hmm
<0> how are you mounting the old partition
<0> automagically as like, D:?


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