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<0> honestly, ie7 is ugly as hell
<0> the circle buttons are so 1999
<1> Microsoft doesn't know what people want in an Operating system, or browser for that matter.
<1> It's really sad.
<1> They look at Firefox, and OS X and say; oh, we just need to take XXX feature and exaggerate it in our products!!!!11111oneoneone
<0> their expose cascade feature thing looks like balls
<0> how totally not useful at all
<1> no ****
<1> expose's beauty is in its simplicity
<2> xxx?
<1> it looks nice and provides good functionality while not looking like it was overthought over overcoded
<1> The cascade switcher is just over the top: "If we make it cool, the coolness will override the functional ****!"
<0> like
<0> what actually changed in vista?
<0> besides the looks
<0> anything?



<1> fedt, s/XXX/a feature you would find in OS X or Firefox/
<0> you know what i dream of?
<1> que?
<0> a syntax-highlighting editor STANDARD in an os
<0> like textedit or notepad, with an advanced setting
<2> i switched to opera because it turns out ff ****s
<3> haha
<3> Opera isn't bad
<3> I like firefox though
<3> it has some super rad developer extensions
<1> evulish, I suppose kate does give you that with KDE
<3> Kate is nice
<1> I want a GUI vim interface that doesn't **** and that works on all platforms
<3> gvim?
<1> gvim is just sad
<3> haha
<3> I hate vi
<0> blasphemer
<3> kvim looked promising I guess, but it's canceled
<1> Zenethian, that doesn't surprise me.
<1> kvim was just a Qt port of gvim
<1> nil novi sub soli
<3> yeah but it was embedable like kate's editor was
<4> hmm
<1> Looking at all of those Vista screenshots, I wonder what sort of cool things could have been made with all of that developer effort.
<1> Zenethian, yes, but very poorly so
<4> c# or php/javascript?
<3> yeah
<1> I got it working with Kate once and it just launched a kvim instance that existed outside of Kate, but edited the text buffer Kate had
<1> talk about worthless
<1> I wish I wasn't so lazy
<1> because then maybe I would do some of these things instead of bitching about someone else not doing them
<1> I blame you, evulish
<1> trollboy, what are you trying to do?
<4> oh
<4> I've got two lil toy projects I'm ****ing with
<4> a ajax/php scheduling deally
<4> that I might port mail & contacts into
<1> dealies are always nice
<4> and a c# win32 simple *** sprite game in managed directx
<0> i want to be a project manager manager.
<0> that way i can just dream up things, give it to a project manager, and have it done
<1> I want to hunt managers for sport.
<4> you and me both
<4> those who can do, those who can't manage
<1> too true
<4> wow
<4> little caesars doesn't deliver
<1> lies!
<4> that's what they said
<0> pizza pizza?
<4> who else is good for cheap pizza
<1> I've havent' seen a Little Caesar's in years
<0> YOUR MOM
<4> they died in the midwest comcor
<4> they're alive and well here
<1> ok, time for bed
<1> laters
<4> nite nite
<4> oh yeah



<4> its midnight over there
<4> I forgot the whole east coast/west coast thing
<5> there, much better
<4> man
<4> I gotta call and get cable set up
<5> writing cd burning software is definitely some heavy wizardry
<5> whoa, typo
<0> you know what i hate about digg? they're all 15-year-olds with views on politics.
<6> man, everybody and their mom is getting opped these days
<6> #php is turning into #teen, except there's no revealing of boobs to sops involved
<4> who's erroneously opped now?
<6> oh, just noticing grant made ops from yesterday
<4> when did this happen?
<4> no one asked me!!
<6> apparently, between yesterday and now
<4> I guess
<0> uhg, the name's evulish
<6> oh come now, you all know mine
<4> I guess you do have ops now
<4> hmm
<0> well yeah, because it's your damned nick :P
<6> was
<6> until a kuwaiti ended up with it
<4> well you're no longer an op in html
<4> so you're allowed
<0> haha
<4> Two-Bits, is the only "bi" op allowed
<6> this is bizarre -- i control the drive with SCSI commands, even though it's ATAPI
<6> unreal
<6> cd recording is some of the worst heavy wizardry i've seen since interfacing to X
<4> oh
<4> heh
<4> you're just now getting into that?
<4> yeah
<4> linux cdr tech is broke to say the best
<6> i mean, it's the pinnacle of "heavy wizardry"
<6> adaptec officially stopped giving out their info willy nilly
<4> unless of course that's a universal thing that windows hides
<6> so now it's, "read others' code and glean insight"
<4> in which case mein got
<6> windows has an API for it
<4> adaptec wasn't that "chatty" in the first place
<6> but everybody just steals nero's
<6> i got down this path because i realized every single piece of DVD authoring software out there ****s ***
<6> and i didn't want to just drop VIDEO_TS and say "haha, all yours, burn with nero!"
<6> that goes against the spirit of open-source, ya know
<6> this kind of API could drive a man nuts, though
<6> aye
<4> I once burned a music cd with RedHat 5 I believe
<3> uh
<4> and ever since only have readers in my linux boxes
<3> ATAPI is SCSI over IDE.
<6> i knew, which blew my mind
<6> know, rather
<6> i had never connected the two
<3> so it makes sense to control cd drives and such via SCSI commands. :D
<6> i always thought there was IDE, and there was SCSI
<6> ATAPI == SCSI never connected for me
<4> then why atapi at all?
<3> heheh
<4> why not ide or scsi?
<3> Well
<3> CD drives can't be IDE because IDE requires it to be a disk with sectors and ****
<6> the SCSI commands have to be wrapped in some kind of package and sent with IDE commands
<6> from what i've gleaned so far
<4> ah yeah
<3> and it can't be SCSI because SCSI is fairly expensive
<3> so if you tunnel SCSI via IDE, it works
<6> there needs to be a central repository of specifications for this stuff
<3> of course now..
<6> because this is some heavy black art
<3> cdroms will be SATA soon
<3> and we don't have to ****ing worry about it


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