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<0> Etobicoke27m: ahh, ok
<0> poutine: depends on where you work
<0> personally i think it SHOULD be required knowledge
<0> but it's just as easy and nearly as fast to just say strtotime("-1 hour") and be done with it
<0> you INSTANTLY know what's going on
<1> if I worked at a place where I got yelled at because one of their programmers couldn't understand time() - 60 to mean the current time minus 60 seconds, I'd try my hardest to get that developer fired, or I'd quit
<0> suppose you had 10 lines like that with all sorts of computed offsets
<1> and if I quit, I'd tell that developer I got promoted and that he is fired and that he should pack up his desk
<0> sure you could look at each one and within half a second perhaps realize what it's doing. but could you look at the whole and recognize them all?
<0> it's like reading. you can look at a sentence and not each word, and still read it
<0> when i took a c++ course in college, i used the ternary ?: operator. the TA didn't know what it was and docked me points
<0> prof fixed the problem, but neglected to tell me "not to do it again". same thing happened again, and he left the points off. i was pissed
<0> how do you TA for a university c++ course and NOT know what ?: is?
<2> you should know that if you have been to a university
<3> that's a stupid question



<2> degree != smart :(
<2> run that sideways and it is the university totem pole
<0> neither does getting a job
<0> and not knowing what a unix timestamp represents is not the final qualifier for keeping that job
<2> but smart = job !!
<0> heh
<0> the
<0> ****
<0> it
<0> does
<4> yeah exactly ^
<5> it's all about experience
<3> chalupah: haha
<4> smart < degree
<1> findingOhio, WHat do you have a degree in?
<6> Statistics summary (#php):
<6> Logged bytes: 74.34kb. Logged words: 13258. Busiest hour: 18. Chattiest person: ohm (17.01kb). Most used tracked term:
<6> Stats restarting.
<1> busiest hour in what timezone
<3> ****ing ohm
<1> relative time would probably be the best thing
<1> pizza_milkshake, yes, gotta hate resistance
<3> at least the nick is appropriate
<1> aka Busiest Hour: 2 hours ago
<1> ie
<1> I mean
<0> that bot is ****ed up
<0> i told spox to hardcode my nick as the chattiest
<0> that ****er
<7> haha
<3> spox: install gmp
<0> no ****.. and if you need a win32 dll for it, i have one. hard as **** to find too
<3> those GNU commies probably have them self-dstruct
<1> GNU is such a joke
<1> which makes linux such a joke since linux isn't an OS and only works with a GNU OS
<3> poutine: the alternative being what? rewrite all the tools?
<0> i'm going to start telling jokes to *nix freaks with completely random set ups
<1> pizza_milkshake, have you ever read the GNU su man page?
<3> poutine: the alternative being what? rewrite all the tools?
<0> and for a punchline, i'll just say "linux" and start laughing my *** off
<1> pizza_milkshake, yes
<0> when they try to beat me up, i'll probably laugh harder
<3> poutine: get started
<1> pizza_milkshake, I use freebsd, while it uses some GNU apps, it's hardly a GNU OS
<3> poutine: indeed, the BSD tools and kernel are one big package
<3> more tightly integrated
<1> Why GNU su does not support the wheel group (by Richard Stallman)
<1> Sometimes a few of the users try to hold total power over all the
<1> rest. For example, in 1984, a few users at the MIT AI lab decided to
<1> seize power by changing the operator p***word on the Twenex system and
<1> keeping it secret from everyone else. (I was able to thwart this coup
<1> and give power back to the users by patching the kernel, but I
<1> wouldn't know how to do that in Unix.)
<1> However, occasionally the rulers do tell someone. Under the usual su
<1> mechanism, once someone learns the root p***word who sympathizes with
<1> the ordinary users, he can tell the rest. The "wheel group" feature
<1> would make this impossible, and thus cement the power of the rulers.
<1> I'm on the side of the m***es, not that of the rulers. If you are
<1> used to supporting the bosses and sysadmins in whatever they do, you



<1> might find this idea strange at first.
<8> poutine, wtf are you on about?
<3> what must be the info page, not the manpage?
<1> Technobabble, why GNU su doesn't support the "wheel group"
<1> pizza_milkshake, no, it was taken out
<1> it used to be in the manpage of GNU su
<8> what's the Wheel Group?
<1> allows a user to su to root
<2> they officially hold a grudge pretty hard, huh?
<3> Technobabble: i think poutine is trying to illustrate that GNU's political views get in the way of pragmatism
<1> nobody else can
<1> yes yes
<2> man, I sat down to say something because I had this great idea
<2> and completely forgot when I read that unix ****
<8> yeah, i do that
<2> POOF
<8> but i realize how stupid it is before i push enter
<8> and i just delete the line
<2> I'm afraid of the backspace key
<2> I just let it all lll out
<1> Anything that prevents you from being friendly, a good neighbour, is a terror tactic.
<1> Richard Stallman
<9> stallman is an ***
<1> Copying all or parts of a program is as natural to a programmer as breathing, and as productive. It ought to be as free.
<1> Richard Stallman
<3> Stallman *is* a nutcase, of course
<1> lol
<1> natural as breathing
<0> wow
<0> that's so commie. i bet even his vagina is pink
<1> just one more
<1> If programmers deserve to be rewarded for creating innovative programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they restrict the use of these programs.
<1> Richard Stallman
<9> heh
<9> boy, what a logical extension
<9> so, who the **** is Test123 and whay did he PM me a ton of **** from this channel
<1> rofl
<3> comcor: Test123 is a very angry visitor
<1> comcor, I called him an idiot and he started going off on how I was "Swearing at him"
<9> "[3:14pm] *Test123* i guss you're the founder, well that poutine is VERY rude.. i asked for help and then he started swearing at me for no reason"
<1> rofl
<3> it's true, poutine was actually not swearing... for a few lines anyways
<3> Test123 had a point, but he went to over the top it was comical
<9> <shrug>
<1> yeah, then it turned into the normal swear fest that was agitated and not very purposeful, like *** when you're too drunk to even walk
<9> /ignore exists for a reason
<0> sounds like business as usual
<7> test123 must've been mormon
<1> he originally said he installed PHP, mysql, and apache, but PHPmyadmin was missing from the installation
<1> which I found very funny
<9> heh
<9> poor guy
<7> he probably forgot to start apache
<1> fedt, he thought "phpmyadmin" was part of apache, mysql, and php
<9> fedt: I presume you're trying to be funny
<0> he forgot to grow a brain cell and google it sounds
<10> Hello everyone. I appreciated your help earlier and I hope that it's okay to ask one more question. I want to display a long list of text, compiled from a sql database via php, in a text box, so that the user can scroll through the material. But, I can't figure out how to force line breaks in the textbox. Any ideas or is there a better way to do this? Thanks so much!. http://dalphp.shoggoth.net/pastebin_view.php?776
<0> --with-phpmyadmin[=DIR] !!
<7> i almost don't want to read that
<9> AnnaM: nl2br
<9> oh, nm
<10> comcor: I tried that. :(
<9> I think you're looking for wrap=virtual or something
<7> well, i thought he downloaded some package like wamp that had phpmyadmin too
<9> if you mean you're trying to force the behavior in the <text> box
<0> overflow: scroll; or overflow: auto perhaps?
<3> alternatively you could use a <select> box, depending on what you're displaying and how it will be used
<8> back


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