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<evulish_> making ssh keys super easy
<Two-Bits> i dont think so. my old dell has one
<Zenethian> they do actually
<Zenethian> it's called a trackpoint
<evulish_> making testing locally easy, as well
<Technobabble> "who wants to play with my nubbin"
<Two-Bits> evulish: telnet doesn't do it for you?
<evulish_> telnet? :P
<Technobabble> zen, did dell infringe?
<evulish_> i can't do RSA encryption in my head, sadly, or whatever ssh uses
<Runabout> hmm didnt surpress the error on the web page, maybe I instered it in the wrong position?
<Runabout> $hostname = @gethostbyaddr($_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR']);
<Technobabble> Runabout, don't paste code
<Technobabble> you should know that by now
<evulish_> shrug
<Runabout> sorry, first night in here.
<evulish_> turn off warnings then
<evulish_> heh
<Technobabble> Runabout, it's the same for all help chans
<Technobabble> don't msg the ops
<Technobabble> don't paste code
<Two-Bits> evulish: i wouldn't sacrifice an entire user experience for the luxury of not doing something as simple and downloading putty or the like
<evulish_> there's a lot of stuff i have on osx that i'd love to see on windows
<Two-Bits> evulish: and vice versa.. like, oh i dont know, file extensions?!
<evulish_> an easier way to get to apps (spotlight), os-wide spellcheck (apple spell, i think), an easy way to get to the desktop (expose)
<evulish_> file extensions?
<evulish_> os x has file extensions
<Technobabble> lol
<Two-Bits> windows has an easy way to get the to desktop.. 2 of them actually
<Two-Bits> window+m for one
<evulish_> what's m?
<evulish_> i know win+d does it
<Two-Bits> and the show desktop shell shortcut (which can be given a hot key as well)
<evulish_> but that ****s everything up if you click anything
<Technobabble> windows+m is minimize all
<evulish_> oh
<Two-Bits> win+d does too.
<evulish_> i don't want that
<evulish_> i want to be able to restore the windows just as they were
<Two-Bits> well then you have win+d
<evulish_> that doesn't work
<Technobabble> i didn't know about the D
<evulish_> hit win+d, open a file, then hit win+d again
<Two-Bits> what do you mean it doens't work
<evulish_> and have fun with that.
<Technobabble> actually
<Technobabble> it does put them right back
<evulish_> not for me
<Technobabble> does for me
<Two-Bits> not if you open another window
<evulish_> in the same order?
<Technobabble> yup
<Two-Bits> it does what i logically expect it to do. if a window is open, show the desktop
<Technobabble> did't try to open a window...
<trollboy> ok
<Technobabble> i have dual monitors and everything
<Technobabble> puts it right back everywhere
<trollboy> I designed how I would do an open source catalog system
<evulish_> what i do:
<evulish_> win+d
<evulish_> double click text file
<evulish_> win+d again
<evulish_> and everything is all ****ed up
<Runabout> ok turned off error levels to 0, and works fine
<Technobabble> Runabout, that was a smart *** comment
<Technobabble> he didn't really mean to turn your error reporting off
<Two-Bits> not all ****ed up. you're no longer viewing the desktop at that point. so win+d does what it's supposed to do. which is show the desktop
<evulish_> sure i did
<Two-Bits> so it does
<Technobabble> that doesn't fix the problem
<evulish_> Two-Bits: yeah, but it doesn't put the windows back the way they were for me
<Technobabble> are they all rearanged?
<evulish_> yeah
<Technobabble> or cascaded or something?
<Two-Bits> Technobabble: you're missing the point
<evulish_> they're ordered differently
<Technobabble> no, i know your point
<Two-Bits> or maybe not
<Two-Bits> what does it do evulish?!
<evulish_> holy christ
<Two-Bits> win+d, open text file, win+d (what happens?)
<evulish_> the windows i had on top before i hit win+d the first time are no longer on top
<trollboy> http://www.hyboriansolutions.net/OSCart/gif_1.gif
<evulish_> or sometimes it just doesn't come back if you open another window while in win+d
<Two-Bits> and if you hit win+d again?
<Technobabble> right, 'cause it thinks that you wanted to reset your order
<evulish_> a third time?
<evulish_> i ***ume they all disappear
<evulish_> Technobabble: well that's a dumb*** thing to ***ume :P
<Technobabble> not really
<evulish_> sure it is, it's illogical
<trollboy> and no one is listening to my genius
<Two-Bits> i guess i'm just not seeing what you're seeing
<evulish_> ok
<evulish_> this is why i used to use win+d
<evulish_> i'd be working on a project
<evulish_> then i'd need access to a different server, but i don't remember the p***words for all of them
<evulish_> so i have pwords.txt on my desktop
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<evulish_> i'd hit win+d, open that file, hit win+d again and have the notepad on top of the windows i was working with originally, IDEALLY
<evulish_> but it doesn't work that way
<Two-Bits> as well it shouldn't
<evulish_> BUT I WANT IT TO
<evulish_> i know that's not what it does
<evulish_> but that's what it SHOULD do
<Two-Bits> the purpose of win+d is not to show the desktop and remember the state of the windows you had them in, then restore them when you hit it again
<evulish_> why would it make sense to do it another way?
<evulish_> who would hit win+d twice in a row for some other reason?
<Two-Bits> well, if i hit win+d it means i want to see the desktop. suppose i'm done with something for a while, and i want to do other things. then later, i want to see the desktop again, but instead of getting the desktop, a bunch of other **** i didn't want to see suddenly pops up
<evulish_> "i want to reset the alt-tab order of all my windows" or "i want to resume working on whatever i was working on before hitting win+d"
<evulish_> which is more logical?
<Two-Bits> i know nothing about things resetting their order
<evulish_> well if you hit win+d twice, the order is all ****ed up
<evulish_> who knows how it does it
<evulish_> but it seems the most logical way to do it is this:
<evulish_> hit win+d once, all windows go away
<Two-Bits> not for me it's not
<evulish_> hit win+d again, all your old windows come up beneath the new windows that were opened/used since the first time in the order they were previous
<evulish_> hit win+d a third time, it goes back to step 1
<Two-Bits> i'm not getting that
<evulish_> why not?
<Two-Bits> if i hit win+d, it shows the desktop
<evulish_> it makes the most sense, imo
<Two-Bits> if i IMMEDIATELY hit win+d again, it restores everything the way it was
<Two-Bits> if i open any windows, the entire effect seems to be reset. so when i hit win+d again, it merely shows the desktop
<evulish_> yeah
<evulish_> but that's not what i want
<evulish_> i know that's what it does
<evulish_> but that's not what os x does
<evulish_> and which is what i like it to do
<evulish_> so therefore, that feature isn't even in windows
<Two-Bits> that's nice. it still makes sense. it does what it's supposed to do
<evulish_> well yes
<evulish_> but it's useless to me
<Two-Bits> no, that feature is not in windows. though i'm sure you could make an app to do it
<evulish_> os x has a shortcut to hide everything (equivalent to minimizing)
<evulish_> then expose shuffles everything off to the side
<evulish_> letting you open ****
<Two-Bits> tbh, i have no use for such a feature anyway. i use the explorer location bar in my taskbar. you can type in filenames and run them directly from the desktop
<Two-Bits> you could simply type pwords.txt in it, and boom, it's there
<Two-Bits> no window swapping
<evulish_> well alot of the times, i don't remember the name of the file i'm looking for
<evulish_> so it takes a little bit of hunting
<Two-Bits> it gives a list of suggestions
<evulish_> or often times, i drag and drop a file from the desktop into an open window in osx
<evulish_> no idea how to do that in windows
<trollboy> hey
<trollboy> question for you guys
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