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<0> I've a bit of gad and ocd
<1> I tell my professors I'm going to kill myself if they don't give me an A
<0> but I've been [slowly] learning how to control it
<0> lol
<1> which?
<1> or both?
<0> guilt usually doesn't work
<0> which?
<1> GAD or OCD?
<0> both
<1> comcor> but I've been [slowly] learning how to control it
<1> ic
<0> well, to be honest
<0> I think the OCD is a result of controling the anxiety
<1> do you engage in the ritualistic behaviours even when alone?
<0> I wouldn't categorize it as ritualistic
<2> dirty habbit
<1> Well OCD is pretty strict on its definition, there may be some compulsive aspects in anxiety control, but people with OCD know what they do is ritualistic, and often feel trapped in doing it, alone or otherwise
<3> put a little satanic or pagan twist on it
<0> well, I am compelled to always close the screen door and lock it whenever I p*** the patio door and I notice that the screen is open (but the door itself is locked and closed)
<3> oooh, like my *********ion?
<1> have you been broken into?
<0> I also have a five minute ritual that I follow before I can leave the hosue
<0> poutine: no
<2> that's not ocd though.
<0> and this is a relatively safe area
<0> fedt: as I said, the behavior is a means of coping with the anxiety
<0> I _have_ to do this ****
<1> as much as people would like to believe otherwise, anxiety generally does stem from a single event
<1> or it
<1> s caused by depression
<2> just because you have to do it doesn't make it that though. it can be a way of coping, not necessarily fitting into that category.
<3> i think categorizing and naming these things tends to become an enabler for such behavior
<1> Two-Bits, I think calling it a disease rather than a natural process is enabling
<3> once you think you've identified and/or cl***ified your own behaviour, you expect it
<1> not cl***ification
<3> that too
<0> poutine: I agree
<0> fedt: yet it fits the diagnostic criteria
<3> mistaking a habit for ocd, i think, could strengthen the habit in a potentially negative way
<1> That is true
<0> I'm not saying its good
<3> a self-fulfilling prophecy thing
<0> <shrug> I have to try the door handle 3 times after I lock it before I can leave
<0> and I usually go back once
<0> (did I lock that?)
<1> again, sounds like compulsive behaviour, but the obsessive aspect is the most important in OCD diagnosis
<3> i check my pockets for my keys before pulling the door shut. that's about it. since i lock it from the inside when i leave
<3> in general though, i have a "**** it" mentality of such things
<2> (?<poop>
<0> poutine: the DSM criteria for obsessions are pretty loose
<1> comcor, can you break that behaviour without considerable worry?
<0> no
<0> but the leaving the hosue thing doesn't bother me
<0> this back door thing does
<0> because there's no rational reason for me to want that screen door closed
<1> who leaves it open?
<0> it doens't matter
<1> sure it does
<1> there's clearly someone leaving it open, unless you compulsively open it so syou can close it
<2> DSM IV feigns in a lot of its 'specifics.' they often seem quite broad.
<1> Are you sure this isn't a reaction where you're trying to find fault in another?
<0> fedt: yet its the manual for which these things are cl***ified
<1> the DSM is generally right
<1> the opposition to the DSM is from people who wish to believe that life is so mysterious it can't be cl***ified
<2> yeah, but some things just aren't as black/whiet as they make them sound
<0> eh, I truly don't think its a what about bob sort of thing
<0> I'm not baby stepping it to the car
<1> put a spring on the door
<1> comcor
<0> I've just noticed that my normal human obsessive behavior has somewhat intensified as a mechanism for coping with the anxiety
<0> poutine: sliding screen door
<0> Two-Bits: bless you
<1> You really skipped that question of mine
<2> psychiatric hospitals are ****in fun
<3> bed time.. nite all
<1> Do you have pets?
<1> a dog perhaps
<1> who you let out the back door a lot?
<0> I only live with one other person, so my wife leaves it open, but I would do so if guests did it as well
<1> aha
<0> poutine: I wouldn't read too much into that
<2> well...i don't sleep with sheets
<2> i've got the jimmy legs. so i stopped caring about putting them back on every morning.
<1> I think it'd be a mistake not to, do you truly believe we accrue behaviours for no natural reason?
<0> poutine: by the way, I alwas get a kick out of how interesting you find these various psychological chats, yet you seem to mock or think the idea of taking psych cl***es a potential waste
<1> If this door was closed, you wouldn't close it
<0> poutine: obviously.. but the point isn't who is opening the door the point is that I check, and am compelled to do so
<1> comcor, finding it interesting in theory and philosophy is an entirely different thing from being told it's strict science
<0> but like I said, it's by no means severe
<0> philosophy was fun
<0> I'm sad I only took one cl***
<1> you can tell the "only took one philosophy cl***" from the people who say their favourite philosopher is nietzsche
<0> no, that's from people who watch movies
<0> the whole interpretation of reality thing was what I thought was interesting
<0> I htink it was berkeley
<0> but I'm not quite sure
<1> solipsism is pretty wacky stuff
<0> it was a long time ago.. fall semster of 2001
<1> why not take some non-credit courses
<0> maybe that was Des Cartes
<0> poutine: I'm lazy
<1> I hope to be able to go to school most of my life
<1> have enough money that is
<0> Ahh, it was Berkeley
<0> "As a young man, Berkeley theorized that individuals cannot know if an object is, individuals can only know if an object is perceived by a mind."
<0> "He stated that individuals cannot think or talk about an object's being but rather think or talk about an object's being perceived by someone; individuals cannot know any "real" object or matter "behind" the object as they perceive it, which "causes" their perceptions. He thus concludes that all that individuals know about an object is their perception of it."
<1> I think therefore I am
<0> Cogito ergo sum
<1> je pense donc je suis
<0> that's des cartes
<0> berkeley's stuff can be mind binding
<4> evulish_, thanks by the way... that resolved my issue. just had to use the ini_set
<0> the disappointing thing, from one perspective is that berkeley's motivation for his philsophy was to prove the existence of god
<0> Here's a philosophy for you: how much vodka is too much?
<0> You can never have too much vodka
<0> tell us a fable Asaph
<5> Call Aesop. That's his gig.
<0> **** you Robdgreat
<6> :D
<6> I love you too comcor
<0> /:-D
<0> poutine: you may be surprised that #linux is having convos about bi***uality and nails
<1> the bi***ual is a male
<1> not my thing
<1> underage too I think
<0> I know, but I liked my revelation
<0> because I never thought about it that way until now
<7> never thought of what
<7> hooka time
<0> That bi***uality is really a way for ugly people to prevent loneliness
<0> maximizing options and whatnot
<7> oh yeah, when you set the bar low enough, there's almost no goal you can't meet
<1> That thought *never* occurred to you until now?
<0> I don't spend a lot of time ruminating about bi***uality
<0> color me weird <shrug>
<1> neither do I, but in 27 years, you've never had it just pop in your mind when the topic was flying around?
<0> can't really say so
<1> super, in case this channel suddenly turns moderated, I'll be able to talk
<0> huzzah
<1> nothing is being missed
<0> no, it increases the chances you'll get pm'd
<8> lol
<1> Two-Bits should analyze the logs with all the php functions and constructs and PHP related terminology and measure time spent on topic vs time spent off topic
<8> i love the variety of topics in this channel sometimes
<0> nocover: I hate to tell you, but there's a cover charge in this channel
<0> Why?
<8> heh
<8> why? to me? just interesting i guess
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