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<0> http://digg.com/software/Make_Windows_3.11_Look_Like_XP < I hate the intarweb
<1> ew
<1> why would you wanna make 3.11 look like XP?
<1> why would you wanna make anything look like XP?
<2> why wouldn't you just be happy with win 3.11, in all its glory?
<3> i dont even permit XP to look like XP in my department
<2> me neither, i make it look like 2k
<3> 2k++
<1> i just stick with 2K
<0> yup
<2> no crayola **** for me
<3> a little from column a, a little from column b
<4> http://users.pandora.be/azone/images/screens/calxp40b.jpg
<4> ha
<5> Hmm...
<5> Well it could be worse...
<2> o_O
<3> lemme know when they can make vista look like 95
<5> They could be aiming for ME.
<1> can you make Vista look like 2000?
<2> hmm i should get win 3.11 running on vmware
<6> tech: yes
<3> i've not touched vista
<6> Technobabble: yes
<3> and likely wont for 5 years or so
<1> is it out yet?
<6> jul/aug
<2> vista will be out soon, whether its ready or not
<6> windows explorer is ****ed in vista
<6> heh
<2> they'll be enormous patches either way
<2> there'll*
<1> what are the fundamental differences
<1> besides them actually making real users
<6> WinFS
<1> with "permissions"
<4> the new slick gui that needs a high end video card!
<3> winfs?!
<4> i thought winFS got dropped out from the release
<3> **** that
<1> oh lawrd, winFS?
<6> **** whatever you want, Vista will have it.
<1> wait, it'll only run on winFS?
<4> no, most of the stuff it was supposed to have, won't be available when it's released
<6> no
<1> or will it run on NTFS
<3> ***uming gui features can be disabled, i'd write that off as a disk space casulty
<6> fat - winfs
<6> all windows file ssytems still available
<3> the loss of my beloved toolbar is unexcusable
<1> oh lawrd i'm scared
<6> hehe
<6> will come fully loaded w/ IE 7
<6> ;p
<6> and
<2> chuck: winFS was dropped
<2> as it has been in every release since 2k
<6> pizza_milkshake: the latest build MS has released to us has it..
<3> yes i would ***ume vista will come with ie7
<6> which was about 2 wks ago
<2> chuck: really?
<2> i'd heard it was dropped months ago. that's cool news.
<2> have you used it?
<6> yeah
<6> i test it for defects
<6> and report to MS
<1> wow
<6> let me verify the winFS
<0> A shill!
<1> do you get paid for that?
<6> tomorrow morning
<6> Technobabble: its my job
<1> how much
<2> QA baby
<3> i want to be on a feature brainstorming team or some ****
<6> yup
<2> Technobabble: $5 MILLION
<3> or at least have veto power over the retarded new ideas
<6> im out of QA and into IT as soon as the head man moves to Canada
<2> Two-Bits: first you have to prove you have good ideas
<3> "hey wouldn't it be cool if we.." "no. form follows function. **** off"
<0> quality ***urance is over rated
<6> comcor: we get paid millions to save the technical industry billions...
<3> i dont need good ideas pm.. i just need to know how to avoid the really bad ones
<6> electronic*
<0> chuck: the problem with most QA systems is that they have little ecological validity, as seen by the dumb ****ing things people put into production
<0> "but we had no problems on QA"
<6> ecological... like weather?
<0> BECAUSE YOUR QA INSTANCES LOOK NOTHING LIKE YOUR PRODUCTION INSTANCES COCK****
<0> chuck: real-world, if you prefer
<6> comcor: we create real world environments for testing
<2> comcor: you ***ume that QA doesn't work because the products you use have a few bugs...
<2> what you don't realize is that before those products got to QA, they had A LOT more
<6> we pull $75 million quarterly, i wouldnt say QA is a waste..
<2> earning money doing something doesn't prove its validity
<6> it does when you make that much
<2> but then, if it wasn't worth it, companies wouldn't really pay for it
<2> heh
<6> exactly
<3> QA is just a euphamism for POCA.. Pissed Off Consumer Avoidance
<6> exactly
<6> my gf has prepared a delightful feast, bbiaf
<3> sounds kinky
<0> ..sigh.. pizza_milkshake: I don't argue that quality ***urance has its place, but watching what IT does put into production is sometimes mind boggling when they have their so-called quality ***urance environments
<0> I also can't believe you ***ume I use products with few bugs :-)
<0> In fact, I just finished writing a monthly report in OpenOffice.org 2.0 this afternoon, which was quite the buggy experience.
<0> However it was positive overall compared to using Word and Excel.
<3> sorry.. commie rants put me to sleep
<0> no, that's just your drinking
<7> comcor, whats your opinions of OOo these days anyway?
<3> sleep != coma
<7> ive been using it at work on my linux desktop, seems pretty decent to me so far
<0> CpuID: My coworkers haven't complained about any documents I've edited
<0> and they all use MS Office
<7> nice :)
<7> yea i emailed an XLS to a customer yesterday, made in openoffice, he got it fine
<0> I only p*** out PDFs of finished documents anyways
<7> so far so good :)
<7> ah yep :)
<7> yea i just needed to drop a paste of a few figures to someone
<3> http://www.cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20050216
<7> nothing too hardcore, 1-2 SUM()s that was it
<0> CpuID: yeah, its been pretty solid. they've also got some nice things I'd like to start using, like versioning control and document signging
<7> ah yea
<7> how many ppl there use it anyways?
<0> but since no one else uses it...
<7> i must say, the fact they have the xls read/write support working fine
<7> that really helps
<0> CpuID: I'm sure out of all employees there is ~ 1%
<7> gnumeric and kspread are a bit behind on xls i think
<0> yeah..
<7> hehe
<0> I just don't know why they insist on making Calc **** equally in terms of chart creation, to Excel
<0> I would like some innovation, as I was saying this morning.
<7> hehe
<7> i dont really use spreadsheet charts myself atm
<0> but what do I know, I'm just a sleep inducing ranter, apparently.
<7> btw, whats ODF like?
<7> thats one thing i havent tried yet
<7> comcor, ignore Two-Bits ffs :)
<0> works fine
<7> ah yea nice
<0> but then again, about the only thing that uses it is OO.org
<0> :-)
<7> hehe
<7> ya
<7> true
<0> it has no problem reading its own
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