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<0> i don't know what happened to my stats script
<0> it quit looping
<0> @topten
<1> Top ten users: poutine (16.74kb), pizza_milkshake (11.49kb), Sausage (9.69kb), CeNa (7.11kb), groogs (7.00kb), Etobicoke27m (6.95kb), spox (6.37kb), evulish (6.04kb), Stoned4Life (5.76kb), Zenethian (4.59kb)
<0> heh
<2> your poor forgetful bot
<3> @confess
<1> my name is jorge and every night before i go to bed my girlfriend reaches over and sticks me in the *** with her dildo i was first not interested but as she went deeper i seemed to enjoy it more and more we now include it everytime we have *** thank you mr.red rocket
<3> @confess
<1> I have no social life. Absolutely none. When I go to work, I do it, then get home. That's about it. The funny thing is, I'm happy! Got no problems. Maybe THAT in itself is a problem...
<3> @confess
<1> I hope oil goes to $100 a barrel
<3> interesting
<2> bastard
<2> hehe
<3> @confess
<1> I have never once taken street drugs. I am such a loser. :*(
<2> I just put ****ing $40 in my ca
<2> rcar
<2> grr
<4> hmmm i don't remember confessing
<3> Zenethian: i don't think bills burn nearly as well as gas
<2> hehe
<3> ba-zing!
<3> @confess
<1> when elderly people fall over, i know i should go and help them up, but its much more fun to stand and laugh
<3> by the way, i think this is what i plan on doing for the next 25 minutes or so till i leave
<3> @confess
<1> I keep working on stupid get rich ideas that jeopodize my day job and marriage. Am I bored?
<3> @confess
<1> i took my contacts out and didn't even wash my hands b4 doing it
<3> uh
<3> @confess
<1> i received a bid for a prestigious, competitive fraternity and i feel REALLY GOOD and EXCITED! However, 40 people didn't end up getting one, and I guess that means I'm better than them... And I'm afraid to say that straight out, because it sounds arrogant, but it's true. I'm so great.
<3> @confess
<1> I feel like I can never acheive anything in my fathers eyes, so i dont bother. Everyone else reads this as laziness, but if working really would make a difference, i would. All i need is some encoragement, ffs.
<3> @confess
<1> When I look at people I always pretend that they are naked. I cant help it I always do. Or I imagine what kind of face they would make when they orgasm. It makes me laugh. And wet.
<3> haha
<3> @confess
<1> This women at work, that sits behind me, munches her carrots like a cow. crunch crunch crunch all day!!! I want to bash her over the head with my phone!
<3> @confess
<1> Sometimes when ****ing or masterbating I imagine that I'm ****ing one of my boyfriend's friends... I always have the best orgasams when I do this... I feel so guilty I just want this guy so bad ut I can't do anything about it...
<3> @confess
<1> I called my daddy a bad name once... Sorry, dad. Ya know I love you. ;-;
<3> @confess
<1> I still love my ex
<3> @confess
<1> i wanked off my cat the other day just to se eif it would work...i feel really ahamed. i also got the same cat to lick the nob cheese off my encrusted will!
<3> interesting
<0> very
<0> @translate-add es spox
<1> spox is now being tracking for translation.
<0> hola senor
<1> Translation (spox): hello senor
<0> como esta?
<1> Translation (spox): like this?
<5> nice
<5> spox: does it translate back?
<1> spox: traduce detrs?
<0> :-D
<1> Translation (spox): :-D
<0> @translate-remove spox
<1> spox is no longer being tracked for translation.
<0> good stuff
<5> spox: you are a ... oh
<0> lol
<0> i fixed it all up last night. of course now i haven't had a chance to really use it
<5> you probably don't need to bother making the translation bold.. 1- most irc clients color the text with your name in it, 2- spanish people will be able to pick out the spanish text anyway
<5> er, the reply
<5> <1> spox: traduce detrs?
<5> that part
<0> what, unbold the name you mean?
<5> yea
<6> sup, greg?
<0> mod_spox: rescan
<1> sure
<0> @translate-add es spox
<1> spox is now being tracking for translation.
<0> me llamo spoxo
<1> Translation (spox): I am called spoxo
<5> metallic: hey. not much. evaluating cakephp, among other things :p
<3> mm.. cake
<0> por que?
<1> Translation (spox): so that?
<5> @translate-add sweedish-chef spox
<0> @translate help
<1> This command will translate a string from one language to another. Supported languages:
<1> Simplified Chinese(zh), Traditional Chinese(zt), Dutch(nl), French(fr), German(de), Greek(el),
<1> Italian(it), Japanese(ja), Korean(ko), Portuguese(pt), Russian(ru), Spanish(es).
<1> Note: Not all languages conversions are available.
<6> groogs: lol, havent really gotten a chance to check out any of those frameworks. i've written my own simple one that is loosely based on struts
<0> has to be one of those. and the chinese/russian stuff i haven't really got working yet
<1> Translation (spox): there are to be one of those. and the chinese/russian stuff i haven't really got working yet
<5> well i've been slowly writing one, but then i look at those and i'm like .. thats basically what i want. and the work is done.. :p
<0> @translate-remove spox
<1> spox is no longer being tracked for translation.
<5> metallic: i looked at rubyonrails, which is kinda neat, but i dont know ruby well enough yet to do anything major in it (and i need something asap)
<5> metallic: looked at symphony, which looks ... okay, but you have to run command-line scripts to do anything (like create a new controller)
<5> code ignitor.. neat, simple.. but missing some features, like any bulitin support for ajax (mostly this is a concern beacuse you need a way to handle specifically ajax requests, without returning templates etc)
<5> so now i'm on to cakephp.
<5> code igniter has excellent documentation. a couple tutorial videos, and just a well-laid out help site. cakephp is a mess, with some tutorials hidden on their wiki
<6> i just basically have a setup where you go AJAX -> REST -> Controller -> Smarty -> HTML Fragment.
<6> a really huge headache.
<5> yea.. smarty is involved ;)
<6> lol, compared to what there was before i refactored a large part of the code base, smarty is an improvement.
<5> a big thing for me is just form handling
<5> i hate doing form handling
<6> check out dojo for AJAX.
<5> i want to just be able to define my fields, and have it generate a form for me,and do all the validation
<6> dojo.io.bind({url: "some_action.php", load: function (type, data, evt) { /* ... */ }, method: "GET", formNode: document.getElementById("myForm")});
<5> or like, <?= form_input_text("name_of_field", 20); ?>
<5> <?= form_show_error("name_of_field") ?>
<5> so i can stick a minimal amount of html around it, and not bother with showing current value, etc..
<6> not sure if there is anything like that for php, but that type of stuff is built into asp.net
<6> it's still a h***le, but it's less of a h***le.
<5> bleh, well i'm not going to asp.net ;)
<5> it's totally doable in php
<5> it's just a matter of finding the code already written
<5> or finding a suitable framework that will let me do it, and writing it myself
<6> lol :) i rather like asp.net. fills a nice niche between J2EE and PHP
<5> or deciding that none of the 10,0000 frameworks are good enough, and writing my own framework as well..
<5> which is where i was at before i decided to look around again
<6> yeah, i hate when that happens.
<2> does php permit keys to be included in a form array?
<5> i actually don't mind vb.net. but, i still have issues with windows as a server in general
<2> stupid php
<2> its been since 3.x since I used it
<6> and i did look at symphony. it was nice, but not very flexible.
<2> lol
<6> Zenethian: lol, yeah. you can specify keys.
<2> groovy
<5> metallic: yeah, exactly. symphony is one of those frameworks that forces you to do everything its way.
<5> code igniter is actually fairly cool, and i may yet end up using it, if not just for the simplicity
<5> oh, i know what it was missing though, was being able to specify relationships in its models
<5> (ie, has_many, belongs_to .. etc)
<6> i usually just hand code the model. the limited oop abilities of php makes that rather difficult though.
<6> at least in respect to the way i would do it in other languages.
<5> well one approach i took for a still in-progress app is to use a 'data abstraction layer'
<5> where basically, i have methods like $data->getUserFromEmail($email) or $data->insertLocation($data);
<5> all my sql queries are in one file. two specific examples really illustrate the power. . one, i switched from mysql to postgres, and it was nearly painless. rewrote like 2 queries, took me a matter of minutes
<6> yeah, i've been using the DAL pattern in a limited way.
<5> then i switched a couple columns from storing a value in them to being a one<>many relationship with another table
<5> again, just updated some stuff in the one DAL file, and didn't touch a line of business logic
<5> well, i guess i added the select boxes, but minimal effort
<7> have you tried http://bennolan.com/biscuit/ (php on rails)
<6> yeah, i just have two cl***es right now that encapsulates database access. i only had problems switching over from MySQL to PostgreSQL with code for getting the id of the last inserted row in a couple of places.
<5> yep, that and LIMIT were the two things i changed
<5> i was actually starting to port another app to postgres (this one i'm trying to find a new framework for), but i'm reconsidering now ..
<5> i kinda like mysql better. permissions are easier, auto_increment / last_insert_id is easier than sequences.. indexes are simpler to define .. the management tools are better..
<6> mysql lost me forever because of how ****ty it was in the 3.x days.
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