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<0> haha
<0> we have a trade show booth i helped put together. we had it at a conference in midtown manhattan (50 blocks from the office).. the conference was supposed to ship it back to us and it ended up in missouri
<1> anyone have had a problem where a <OBJECT></OBJECT> tag blocks php commands from being executed in IE?
<2> afxlex, PHP is not executed in IE
<1> its on the server
<2> right... so what makes you think IE has anything to do with this??/
<1> but my problem is that in firefox it renders php fine, but in IE it doesnt.
<3> browers don't render php
<2> php doesn't "render"
<1> is this a configuration issue on the serverside?
<1> gotcha
<2> I suppose gd could, but I doubt you're talking about that
<3> php is not affected at all by what browser you use
<1> it is in the problem i am having.
<3> no, you think it is due to a misunderstanding of where php is executed :)
<3> more likely you have an html rendering problem
<3> if the html happens to be generated by php, thats just inconsqeuential
<1> i grok you
<4> wtf...?
<1> but the commands aren't executing for me in IE as long as they are in a <OBJECT> container
<1> grok = understand
<3> ...
<3> php executes on the server
<3> it doesnt matter what html tags are around it
<3> ok lets try this way
<3> pastebin the code thats causing problems
<1> http://dalphp.shoggoth.net/pastebin_view.php?744
<1> this works fine in firefox, etc. But in IE. The flash never shows up. upon inspection.. value="" in IE..
<1> for the movie path
<3> ok, so right before object put var_dump($flash_path);
<3> make sure that variable actually contains what you expect it to (could be a cookie not being sent, cached page)
<1> gotcha
<1> gonna try
<1> it does containt the right path
<1> wait. comes up NULL in IE
<1> interesting
<0> is there a mysql command to list available engines?
<3> un-irreg1rdless: look in phpmyadmin
<0> don't have it
<3> ah, well it ****s that it's a commercial product that doesn't have online source viewers..
<5> looks like it should be
<5> show ENGINES;
<3> i need to stop walking out of my office
<5> ?
<0> heh heh. blackhole
<3> it still smells bad in here, but i get used to it.. when i leave and come back, i can smell it again
<5> that ****s
<1> i found the problem.. thanks for your help groogs
<0> wow. i'm looking over engine benchmarks.
<0> postgre is slow as **** compared to innodb
<3> un-irreg1rdless: i dunno about that..
<3> but innodb doesn't exactly have a promising future right now
<3> oracle now owns it
<3> they made a bid to buy mysql, but got turned down ... so now.. who knows what'll happen
<0> heh
<0> i'm curious to see what'll happen with mysql's new VC money
<0> they just raised $18 million
<3> mysql buys oracle....
<0> haha. that'd be hilarious.
<0> but sadly, i think mysql would need a few more zeros behind that VC money
<3> not many, oracle is worth 545.9 million
<0> that's it?
<3> (***uming the worth of a company = stock price * stock volume)
<0> i thought it was in the billions
<6> wouldn't they only need 51% of that?
<3> so really they'd only need 273 million to own a controlling share
<0> still.. they're a little ways off :)
<0> but that would be awesome
<3> course, if they actually tried to buy 51% it would probaby drive the stock price way up and cost a lot more than that
<0> IN SOVIET RUSSIA, MYSQL BUYS YOU
<6> a couple rounds at the roullette wheel and they'll be in business!
<0> s/YOU/ORACLE/
<3> hm, that same calculation makes google worth 2,778 million
<6> and ms?
<3> 645mill
<7> so every time i browse a few pages on my site... i see another host hitting the same links i do..
<7> anyone experienced that before?
<0> and apple 933mil
<3> chuck: uh .. what host?
<6> by stock price * volume, google is worth about 3 times as much as ms?
<6> that would appear to not be accurate
<7> groogs: 63.163.102.182 ... someimtes .180 and .181 too
<3> google is worth 370/sh, msft is 26.97
<3> chuck: owned by overture
<3> you probably have some spyware installed
<7> yahoo overutre?
<7> i dont have google.. i am advertising yahoo overture though..
<7> hmm 'll call 'm
<7> yahoo actually takes the time to chat on the phone w/ ppl
<7> even called me once.. iw as like wtf?
<8> what's the mime-type for html?
<6> text/html
<0> text/html
<0> application/ole!
<6> application/x-ms-html-zomg
<0> i have a little corner store in my desk.
<0> i get chips free with my sammiches, and i don't like chips
<6> selling nick nacks?
<6> i'll take 2 paddy whacks and an orange soda
<0> i have a toothbrush, toothpaste, disposable razors, multiple kinds of pain relievers, cough medicine, sodas, and gum
<6> ****, no condoms?
<0> haha
<0> i used them all.
<6> vending machine condoms are the best.. they NEVER break
<6> </sarcasm>
<0> i prefer the mesh ones.
<6> the vending machine code for condoms was the universal "dont come in we're having teh ***0r" code in college
<6> that or a drawing of an oreo cookie.
<0> sweet. freezing rain.
<5> we have thawed rain
<5> yay
<6> we have no rain, and it's been quite nice as of late
<0> what's a good rss reader for windows?
<0> one that's not a browser extension or anything like that
<0> i wish rss feeds contained entire articles
<0> i hate the new marketing strategy of "never show your prices"
<9> its more of our prices are so ****ing high no one in their right mind would actually buy it, so we want u to call so we can get a salesman who can sell you sand when your standing in the desert
<3> i read a good article about that the other day
<3> ah yeah
<3> http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/CamelsandRubberDuckies.html
<3> How Much Money Do You Have? Pricing.
<3> This is the kind used by software startups founded by ex-Oracle salesmen where the price isn't on the website anywhere.
<3> It's pretty obvious here that the plan is to have a salesman call you up and figure out how much you're worth, and then charge you that much. Perfect segmentation!
<3> (he goes on to explain why it doesnt work)
<0> i like to have at least a range of pricing
<0> like what i might expect to pay
<3> yeah thats the big problem with those no prices listed things
<3> when you have NO idea if its going to cost you like $200 or $200,000
<0> yeah, because it's a service.. and you don't really know what it's worth.. so you don't look into it long enough to talk to a salesperson
<3> you may be in a situatoin where you're comparing it against an OSS project that doesnt quite do what you need .. in which case, spending the $200 might make sense, because it would cost you more to develop that functionality in-houes
<3> on the other hand, at $200,000 it's a waste of time (for everyone involved, including their sales guys) to even inqure further
<0> http://www.secondsite.biz/deck/
<0> i ended up there
<0> took me ages to find the prices
<0> there's no link to it. you have to go to www.secondsite.biz to find the link
<3> thats actually a good example of the wrong way to do it :p
<3> no prices, you ***ume expensive
<3> from a developer point of view, i think i could probably develop that service myself and charge like 2% per transaction or something like that
<0> it's actually cheap
<0> heh yeah
<0> what's it do?
<0> start/stop button and send an email
<0> whoopie
<3> the best thing they could do is to totally automate the signup process, and put their prices everywhere
<3> they offer a free trial.. but thats dumb
<3> i'm not going to enter all my billing info there, and then just try it for a month
<3> they should just offer an online demo, show all their prices (or at least base prices, they can say "volume discounts - inquire")
<3> and make it REAL easy to signup
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