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<0> it's basically a way to store hashes and trees and things
<0> i know it's real simple to turn it into a dictionary type
<0> bsddb in python does that
<1> I gotta write my next page in python
<1> just to switch over
<1> can you do client side scripting in python?
<0> python++
<0> oh yes.
<1> ooh
<0> i'm forking python into a hybrid between python and c# that is more distributable
<1> that is kind of ***y
<0> distributing apps written in python is a little rough
<1> yeah, but for web programming is more what I'm after
<0> mod_python is pretty decent
<0> you can configure it so you can pull php-style escaping in html
<2> yah you can use psp files
<2> like php files
<0> python is a really kick-*** language in search of a good implementation, i have my reservations about the CPython implementation but i've heard rave reviews of other ones
<2> distriuting python apps is easy
<2> learn to use distutils
<0> distutils is messy, i don't like how it works
<2> ya probably havent mastered it
<0> specifically, one entry in "Add/Remove Programs" for every library i install isn't cool
<2> hence your difficulty
<2> distutils doesnt by default do that
<0> you're correct, i haven't mastered it, but i don't like how it's used in practice
<2> so you dont know how to use it
<0> yeah, i need to know how to use distutils to install add-on libraries to python
<2> in fact no module I've made has ever added an entry in add/remove
<0> which come with an installer
<2> and mine come with an installer
<0> no module you've made
<2> yep
<0> explain that to every other developer
<2> they already know it
<2> its in the docs
<0> i have 16 entries in add/remove programs for add-on libraries to python
<2> thats the rtfm bit
<0> okay, explain my add/remove programs list then
<2> I'm not interested in explaining yours
<2> rtfm
<0> if these other developers are so smart
<2> and you can see my modules in cancelbot and my gimp plugin
<2> doesnt add anything in your add/remove
<0> ooo, an irc bot
<2> and gimp
<0> ooo, a plugin for another program
<2> and stani python editor
<0> get back to me when you write an interpreter
<0> ooo, an ide
<2> doesnt matter what you write
<2> its code
<2> if you cant figure how to work the install tools....
<2> and you're writing an interpreter
<2> lol
<0> can't? how about "just don't?"
<0> i have no use for distutils
<0> hence, i don't care to learn it, you slithering pile of ****
<0> go back to #python where you belong and stop following me
<3> lol
<0> jesus christ, i ****ing hate you
<0> i hope someone murders you
<4> holy moly
<4> **** shanoley
<0> i really do, i'd praise my love for jesus if someone just shot you in the ****ing head
<1> damn.. I left to add the cheese sauce
<1> and the conversation took a turn to left field there
<0> Cancel is an arrogant son of a bitch who has a personal vendetta with me to disagree with everything i say and try to make me look stupid
<0> and he's following me
<0> i'd give every possession i own to see him die
<4> who gets your pc
<1> heh, that is a little weird, reading the scrollback
<4> i need more porn storage
<1> so cancel.. can you do ajax style stuff in python?
<2> chalupah: I dont know about ajax so cant tell ya
<2> chalupah: when I do python its pure python
<1> oh.. it's like.. click something and make something else change colors
<1> I could use python if it could do that
<1> i guess that's pretty complicated though
<2> yes
<2> not that i'd want to
<1> I could pay you to do it
<1> I don't really want to, myself
<2> if I were going to do that I wouldnt use python
<1> yeah, I heard AJAX is the thing to use for that
<2> in general I wouldnt use python for web presentation unless I had existing modules or backend things that made it requisite
<1> oh
<2> I did my cisco ip services in python and if I had to do it again I'd php it
<1> I don't know what that means, really
<2> bascially saying if I had to do it again I'd not use python
<5> i'm gonna see if i can make a webpage to access on my cell phone
<1> right, but the 'it' part
<5> it shoujld ****ing rock
<2> it is the aforementioned services
<3> Technobabble: no, it won't
<3> it will be plain and boring
<3> just like it should be
<5> i'm okay with that too
<5> i really just wanna know if this thing will allow secure pages n ****
<6> I believe you can do ajax with everything
<6> its javascript talking to some server via xml
<6> so long as your python is responding to xml and spewing responces
<6> you should be good
<5> i need to shave
<5> bad
<6> I need to shower
<6> bad
<4> brb****
<1> but do browsers support python scripting?
<6> python does not matter
<6> all browsers support html
<2> true
<6> most support javascript
<1> mm, but I mean for client side scripted stuff
<4> most phones dont support javascript
<4> and cut out majority of css
<6> given
<1> ah, I see though
<2> well you can write jscript with anything
<6> but as far as php vs python vs asp vs perl
<6> the browser doesn't car
<6> care too
<2> sure doesnt
<2> as they all print "" ; blah to your browser in the end
<1> I thought javascript worked by being executed on the client's side
<2> it is
<1> man, I am stoned, just ignore me for a while
<6> it does
<2> you can do javascript output from any of those languages though
<6> chalupah, done and done
<1> it's like a double team
<2> chalupah: what does php, python or perl care if you do a print <script javascript.....
<2> they dont care
<2> as javascript will be executed on the client side
<2> just like everything else presented
<1> nah, I was asking if I could eliminate the javascript altogether
<6> you need javascript for ajax
<1> yeah, it was a poorly worded question :P
<7> haha
<6> php, perl, asp all run on the server
<6> and on the server only
<6> period
<4> heh
<6> <script language="javascript"> document.getElementbyId('image').src = 'pic.gif'; </script>
<6> that's flatfile
<2> you can output that in any language ya want
<6> <script language="javascript"> document.getElementbyId('image').src = '<?php echo "pic.gif"; ?>'; </script>
<6> that's php
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