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<0> That's what I've been buying every month for my pay as you go cell minutes, only I have to pay for the incoming calls on my cell as well.
<0> On my cell it costs 10 cents a minute.
<0> If I go over 500 minutes on Vonage, calling out, it's only 4 cents a minute.
<0> And since the majority of calls I make are business, I rarely use over 500 minutes a month.
<0> To talk to my best friend and family, I could just have them call me back and get the call free.
<1> any extra expenses? like hookup fee and equipment required?
<0> Hookup is $60.
<0> That includes the machine you hook up to your cable.
<0> Line fees, etc, cost an additional $5 a month so I'm looking at about $20 a month.
<0> Which is a hell of a lot cheaper than my pay as you go minutes on my cell.
<0> And the same price as Lingo and SunRocket.
<0> Both of which got bad reviews and complaints about lag.
<1> you have a router already?
<0> Nope.
<1> here theres lots of small companies offering voip services im with one of them any probs have been promptly addressed im pleased with it
<1> you'll need a router too
<0> Not according to what I've read so far.
<1> ok so your cable connects to your cable modem right
<0> The voip box acts as a p***thru for your cable.
<1> oh ok then
<1> your set
<0> Supposedly you connect the voip box first, then connect to your computer, tv, etc.
<1> if you signup for skypeout before january 31 you get free outgoing calls in north american for one year
<1> and its 15 bucks one time fee
<1> yah the voip has to be first
<1> if you do a lot of uploading that can affect the voip quality
<1> be aware
<0> Don't you have to talk to other skype users only if you've got skype?
<1> no skypeout means you can call regular telephones
<0> Ah.
<0> Cos I can't see my folks getting skype.
<0> heh
<1> yah parents and computers generally don't mix too well
<0> heh
<1> my mom uses hers for playing freecell
<0> They're both Mac users tho. :)
<0> So they have that going for them.
<0> hehe
<1> well that makes it easier
<1> for sure
<0> My mother isn't using a Mac anymore, and she really hates the PC. :)
<0> I told her how she can get an el-cheapo older iMac to do all she wants on the net.
<0> I think it'll take going to Wichita and buying it for her tho, because she'll never do it on her own.
<1> whats your dad using
<0> An iMac.
<0> He had an old LC and I finally convinced him that he needed something newer.
<2> anyone here used isight? O_o
<2> err
<2> ichat
<1> dx not yet
<1> but i intend to try
<2> well i got a question
<2> some people have said ichat only works if ur on a certain isp ?
<0> My screams of horror when I found out he didn't have 8 years of writing backed up at all finally got thru to him.
<0> I use iChat.
<1> dx i have no idea
<2> ok
<1> it works with skype whcih works on any isp
<2> one of my customers wants to know
<0> I connect to AOL with it.
<0> There are others you can connect with.
<1> ouch 8 yrs not backed up
<2> yeah SherwoodSpirit thats what they used in the uk
<1> thats frightening
<0> rubik, yeah.
<0> Especially considering how old his LC was.
<2> LC ?
<0> His solution was to print all 8 years worth of stuff out to paper.
<0> haha
<1> the lc is more than ten yrs old id imagine
<0> I kept trying to tell him he could back stuff up with other means, but noooooo.
<0> LC came out in 1990.
<0> haha
<0> So it was 10 or 11 years old when I finally convinced him he had to back stuff up.
<0> He'd never even rebuilt his desktop.
<1> he didn't push it too hard then
<0> 10 or 11 years of pretty much daily use...
<0> I dunno if he turned it off at night or slept it.
<2> brb
<0> But yeah, it got hard use.
<0> haha
<0> It's still running, btw.
<0> The monitor croaked. :)
<1> thats good service
<0> Old Macs never die.
<0> heh
<0> They just get stacked up in the closet as you buy newer, shinier ones. :)
<1> ive got a closet full superseded pc's
<0> haha
<0> It's hard to give them up, isn't it?
<0> You loved them for so long..
<0> They're family.
<1> something like that
<0> :D
<1> but space is limited so
<0> I need to unload at least 3 of mine.
<3> send me your poor, tired macs
<0> haha
<3> I have a fitting end for them
<0> You can't have my Cl***ic!
<1> wow the new epson 3800 i would like one
<0> rubik, I've made a point NOT to look at those.
<0> haha
<0> Makes it harder for me to settle for lesser printers. :)
<2> back
<1> sherwood yah its not just the purchase price but the cost of media and inks which would double the cost in a year i should think
<0> And since the printer I've been drooling over for four? years is now down to $450 as a refurb, that's what I'm gonna get.
<0> :)
<0> Yeah, I've been browsing papers.
<0> Found a nice 15 mil art paper I'm gonna order.
<0> Not as nice as I'd like, but adequate for selling fantasy art prints at conventions.
<1> www.redriverpaper.com
<1> they have a nice paper selection
<0> Do they work well with Epsons?
<0> I've tried some papers that look awful.
<0> I want acid free art paper to go with my acid free inks. :)
<1> yes they have special epson papers and they provide color profiles free with the purchase
<0> Ah.
<0> Cool.
<1> 17 x 22 sheets
<0> Hmm. Wide format sampler kit. $25
<0> 13x19 sheets.
<0> That would be cool to check out.
<4> i havent printed anything that big
<4> even though ive had my printer for like a year
<1> ive printed out a few things at the bigger sizes
<1> prob no more than a dozen or so
<1> xpensive
<2> its going to be hot tomorrow
<2> :(
<0> I'm thinking about doing a series of paintings on some clayboard I've got that's 18x24".
<0> The hardest part will be getting them digitized after I'm done painting them.
<1> dx come visit here its like minus 3c
<1> and snowing big white flakes
<3> -1c
<0> Snowwwwww!
<3> we might get snow tomorrow
<0> I saw a couple flakes fly the other day.
<0> But it quit.
<1> its really pretty right now, all the trees are white under the lights
<2> 27C atm but its hummid and its ment to get to 35C :(
<2> and tomorrow is 38C :/
<0> We've had one snowfall so far this year, and it was mostly ice.
<3> wtf 38C
<3> that's ridiculous
<0> DX, are you Australian?
<0> heh
<2> lol why grim
<2> yes SherwoodSpirit
<0> It's summer there. :)
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