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<0> simmy: in fact I said broadcast
<1> but cell phones are embedded devices, too.
<2> but it doesnt seem to run well under an INTEL chip as opposed to an AMD chip
<0> simmy: I didnt mention cell phones you did
<3> which linux has regular and automatic updates?
<0> simmy: nor did I make embedded a requisite of entprise suitablilty you did
<0> ^sic^: most of them
<2> ^sic^, all the major releases
<0> simmy: try again
<1> you brought up broadcast transmitters as your example of what can constitute an enterprise cl*** system.
<4> Speaking of embeded devices, anybody use one of those nano-ITX boards?
<1> I provided a similar example to yours as rebuttal.
<2> ^sic^, just dont bother with Fedora, its still pretty bleh
<4> simmy: A cell phone is _NOT_ a broadcast transmit.. uh...
<0> simmy: I'm not interested in yoru example
<0> simmy: thanks though
<1> Gag_Halfront : I know some guys that run clusters of 'em for distributed computing.
<0> simmy: as if you havent figured out that a cell phone is not a broadcast HD then I cant help ya
<4> simmy: The nanos?
<1> Gag_Halfront : yep... maximizing CPU power/space is a big thing for some people.
<0> simmy: your argument is your own self defeating one and I dont have to defend bad arugments you invent for me
<0> simmy: and fyi cell phones are largely idle
<4> simmy: They mostly all have USB and Ethernet support?
<1> Cancel : But a device that must maintain 24/7/365 uptime is YOUR definition of enterprise cl***. Uptime isn't the only thing enterprise-level admins give a damn about.
<4> I should introduce Cancel to my Treo. :P
<1> Heh!
<4> If it's mostly idle, why can't I put it near my radio?
<0> simmy: sorry that merely part of the defintion
<4> 10:19AM <0> simmy: sorry that merely part of the defintion
<0> simmy: nor did I make that the only requisite you did
<4> Cancel: Thank you for making my point for me.
<0> simmy: try again
<4> Uptime is only part of the definition.
<0> Gag_Halfront: actually all you did was agree with me
<0> Gag_Halfront: something you better get used to
<5> http://www.windowsecurity.com/whitepapers/Malware-future-trends.html
<4> *snigger* *choke*
<1> Mandrake doesn't have a set patch release schedule. They also don't work with large companies to anounce upcoming patches so the organizations can prepare for the upcoming change.
<4> Nor do most ISVs support their producs on the platform.
<1> THAT is a big thing in what most people consider enterprise-level software.
<0> get at me when you work enterprise
<1> Cancel : I've done administration for General MOtors, EDS, Dow Chemical and Daimler Chrysler.
<0> blah blah blah
<1> I helped design VOIP systems for the largest VOIP implementation inthe world.
<4> Heh.
<1> I was part of teh Novell/Windows migration for THE largest company in the world.
<1> Care to challenge my credentials again?
<1> You're WAY out of your league.
<0> blah blah blah
<0> simmy: been there done that
<4> simmy: whois. You'll never make headway with a python fan.
<1> *laughs8
<4> To say nothing of a windows network admin
<0> simmy: check , check, and check
<6> hey hey
<6> nothing wrong with being a windows admin
<4> And I think it said Cancel (~cancel@ddsl-216-68-134-162.fuse.net) (Eric Renfro)
<4> *blink*
<4> I knew it!
<0> simmy: and you know that anything you've done I likely did it before you
<1> You helped engineer the largest VOIP implentation in the world before I did?
<0> simmy: and this is not news to you
<1> So why do my credentials seem to fall on your deaf ears?
<0> simmy: I probably did my first voip install before you ever saw your first voip phone
<1> "back when you were in diapers" right?
<0> simmy: cause I dont care about your chest beating anymore then you care about mine
<0> and I know how pissing contest with you end
<1> I"m done. Walking away. It's not worth arguing with you anymore.
<0> so beat your chest
<1> How do they end?
<0> its what you've got to make you feel better
<0> not interested
<7> Cancel, is on the war path again ;)
<0> if I wantd your credentials I'd ask you for them
<1> Forget my credentials.
<1> Now you're attacking my integrity. How pissing contents with me end?
<4> vipersniper: It's not so much a warpath as a soapbox.
<0> simmy: sorry I never mentioned your integrity or credentials you did
<0> as again if I wanted your credentials I'd asked you for them
<4> I'm thinking bughouse square here.
<1> <0> and I know how pissing contest with you end
<1> How do they end?
<0> yep
<0> I know how they end
<0> you know how they end
<4> Would somebody just make with the "your mom" and get it over with?
<6> someone mention nazi's or something
<1> Cancel : Please explain "the end" you're referring to. I'm REALLY curious to know what you really think.
<1> And if you're afraid of it, there won't be a ban involved.
<4> I think simmy's just getting frustrated that he's been so well trolled.
<1> Gag_Halfront : YOUR MOM!
<1> There. I feel better.
<3> everybody
<1> nobody
<1> :)
<3> what is diffirence of linux and bsd?
<1> the kernel.
<1> linux is a kernel. BSD is a kernel. The software that runs on 'em is pretty much the same.
<0> simmy: I've moved on I encourage you to do the same
<1> i'll un-ignore you later... when the troll-fest is over.
<0> please do
<0> thanks
<1> lunch time. Woohoo!
<8> someone's here?
<8> need a little help
<9> what is the matter?
<10> what about?
<0> Mosesdd: ask the real question
<8> it's not concerning linux actually but i'm sure you can help me
<11> probably not, it's called #linux for a reason
<0> get to the question part
<8> im interested in finding user's ip addresses on icq and MSN messenger
<5> hahah
<5> Mosedd
<5> ?
<0> not interested
<8> netstat is not very helpful on the subject
<0> sure isnt
<0> and wont be unless you establish a direct connection
<5> netstat just gives u the Ip of the msn server ur connected to
<0> as messenging services relay through the messenging server
<8> yes yes that's right!!
<5> u need to share a file or webcam
<8> finaly someone who knows what i'm talking about
<12> send him a file then run netstat
<8> but it's not the case in icq
<5> well no ..first do netstat
<5> and check the already connection
<8> in icq, i can see some ip addresses of the people im talking with, but not all of them
<5> then the new one is his Ip
<0> Mosesdd: why do you care about their ip
<4> Does anybody else think this leads to no good end?
<4> or is it just me?
<0> Mosesdd: lets talk about that
<0> Mosesdd: if you can message them why are you needed to know the other clients ip
<0> Mosesdd: do tell us what you desire this for
<8> well, it's a hipothetically question
<5> FLoods :
<8> for learning purposes only
<5> if u cant figure out how to get the IP then iam sorry you wont be any good at flooding it either :P
<8> yes yes, that's right :) so you shouln't worry about my desires
<5> wht make su think i care?
<12> if you already know that netstat will show open connections and that you need a direct connection to the client then you've learnt enough already
<0> Mosesdd: good then I wont worry about ***isting you
<5> just make a really annoyin flash emoticon and send the person the max msn allows u to and use a proxy to connect to msn cauz it will dc u after a few tries
<11> at the very least it's off topic, so please let's return to on-topic subjects... soon ;)
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