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<0> voip always ****
<1> It's odd that we're using phone lines to use VOIP.
<1> Instead of just plugging, I dunno, a phone into it.
<2> Isaac-Lew: why so? i'm using Ekiga and Skype, both seem to be doing well if both parties have a fast connection
<3> competition, gov't interference & general h***le of weird stuff that can go wrong
<4> Cognition: yeah skype runs nice on Linux
<0> i wanna install asterisk with freeradius
<5> well there are laws for voip .
<6> ncode!!! hey wake up
<3> I work for an internet telephone company
<4> Isaac-Lew: what's the name of the company
<0> then probably using asterisk Isaac-Lew
<3> sorry, not going to say
<5> why cause it can seriouslly . hurt govt instituions
<4> alrighty
<3> they're based in northern Virginia
<1> Isaac-Lew: Ah yes, how is the job anyway?
<3> (if that narrows it down)
<1> I remember you talking about it some time ago.
<2> in fact, if i'm not mistaken, even land phones and cell phones are transported over VOIP backbone grids.
<3> xarius: right now I'm watching the main router for our phone calls go insane
<5> Cognition yup
<0> The communication here blocks the voip servers ips
<1> Isaac-Lew: Unplug things at random.
<1> Isaac-Lew: Or make some kind of drinking game out of it.
<7> not necessarily VoIP, but long distance calls are often routed over various digital or IP solutions
<3> & the network guy who's in charge of it has no idea what's going on
<1> benjy: I should hope so, I don't want my long distance calls being manually connected by little old ladies in switching stations.
<7> hahahah
<3> might as well, if only to let him know that I'm actually doing my job
<7> i thought that's how it still worked!
<2> yeah, however it's done, it's not going anywhere, if anything, i would think it's growing, so i'm a little perplexed by how it "****s"
<1> benjy: It might! WHO KNOWS?!
<3> & the ironic thing is that the office phone for emergencies is POTS
<0> Isaac-Lew, isn't it the time to ask for more money you are doing good job
<1> Cognition: It's no better than the system we've had for the best part of a century yet.
<0> :3
<5> well end of the day its still . see me we 3
<8> any suggestions for an installable pastebin server app?
<4> G-WiZ-: ?/
<8> Rebbin looks like only one of two... http://rebbin.berlios.de/
<4> lets see
<2> xarius: hmm, when i make either internet calls or PC2Phone calls on Skype, the quality of the sound is actually better than my own cell phone and that of land phones
<8> i scoured freshmeat and could only find two (and of course i only looked at the most recent) heh
<1> Cognition: How can it be better if you're calling a landline?
<4> lets see
<4> G-WiZ-: for what distro?
<8> any linux i suppose.. i usually install from source
<5> Cognition it all depends on the type of bandwidth u use for ur calls
<4> have you search for it G-WiZ-
<2> xarius: it's better when i call a cell phone.
<1> It's also an infrastructure issue. Every home in the UK, or somewhere around 99%, can have a phone line.
<1> About 80% some form of broadband
<2> xarius: and it's best when PC 2 PC
<1> Cognition: Well duh
<8> i did via freshmeat and sourceforge... unless there's a more relevant search term than "pastebin"
<1> And from what I hear, in the USA broadband penetration isn't m***ive due to the size of the place.
<5> xarius u can hev the details on how much bandwidth USA is useing oon sme3 site
<2> yeah, so my point in short is, i don't really know how it ****s, maybe it's an infrastructure thing that we don't know about, since i'm not an employee in an internet telephony company like Isaac-Lew
<5> or how many nodes they have
<1> Cognition: For most people it ****s.
<5> Cognition well i am one :)
<1> I don't know why, I've never tried it.
<1> But since I get unlimited phone calls for free from my landline, I see no need to use VOIP.
<2> well, from my own experience, i will never use a land line actually, especially for long distance.
<5> ahmm local calls . or nation wide ?
<8> i believe its political .. almost every tech advancement in the USA has been stalled by the actual companies who either lobby to slow down penetration or to find ways to squeeze more cash out of existing customers while offering less
<1> Linux````: Within the UK.
<1> G-WiZ-: Everything is political.
<5> nope . pakistan :)
<2> hmm, linux users aren't very political i would say :)
<1> Cognition: yeah, you look on a world map at the UK, we don't really have any long distance to make calls to :P
<5> lol
<3> as much as Ma Bell ****ed as a monopoly - at least the phones just *worked*
<1> VOIP would be an option for me if I made a lot of international calls, or I knew at least several friends who used it.
<2> Isaac-Lew: so you welcome the domination of AT&T again :)
<1> Isaac-Lew: Ditto for trains in England :D
<5> voip is the most cheapest way to call . international
<2> if only all people used their VOIP more seriously, i wouldn't pay a dime for any phone call :)
<1> Ah freeloaders.
<1> Because all that infrastructure magically maintains itself :D
<1> Although the phone companies usually control the ISPs, so they get paid either way.
<1> They just want to be paid twice :D
<3> xarius: yup - haven't you heard of the internet fairy?
<2> who gives a damn, as long as i get free calls!
<2> which is what i do anyway
<5> lol
<5> trust me . Cognition there will be a time . when every one will be having a braod band . connection in there home . and connected to a major Exchange Alcatel xxxxx version , through out the world
<0> we blocked the voip servers ips here
<0> so people only use the landline
<1> Linux````: Not everyone in the world has clean water and universal healthcare yet.
<2> like i'm supposed to care about some rich billionair and his company maintaining the infrastructure, to hell with'em
<1> Linux````: Let's work on the important things first.
<0> lol Cognition
<8> AT&T. Your World Delivered. To the NSA.
<2> The internet is there to be used, i'll use it as i please!
<5> xarius, there are other issues too, but u cant help it
<5> like war in iraq or etc etc
<9> There is no war in Iraq.
<1> Linux````: What's that got to do with the price of fish?
<10> And why would anyone want to be a billionaire? There shouldn't be much need to hold people with land lines and ISDN internet connections and such. The people owning the ISPs would still be filthy rich.
<5> ahmm
<10> With all the world on, say 1Mbps SDSL.
<2> Yeah, that's where it starts, hineous crimes, and that is used as a slippery slope to take away our freedoms even on the internet one by one
<9> It's good to be a billionare.
<1> Well over here we have a saying: "Tough ****"
<2> hineous/heinous
<10> pazooza: how would one use all the money?
<9> Do you use all your life?
<5> its not just abt the money . think . abt the service that u can have
<5> free calls all over the worl ?
<5> isnt that a big deal :/
<1> Linux````: Not really. Not compared to the issues I mentioned.
<1> Calls are cheap enough ANYWAY
<1> I'm not going to begrudge a company 2p a minute so I can talk in real time to someone on literally the opposite side of the planet.
<2> if you wanna catch criminals, catch THEM, not spy on a millions of individuals surfing the net
<5> xarius u cant give away ur food, but yes u can give away that money . which can be saved from voip ;/
<11> lol from
<0> pmo, denmark pwns!
<2> and again, nobody tells me it's "wrong" to use the internet for VOIP, those companies are making more than enough money as is
<1> Cognition: If you really think the government is reading your secret stash of emo poetry or lemon slices recipe, think again.
<11> haha said by a arab ;P
<1> They don't have the time or the manpower to do so.
<5> like seriouslly . why should i pay for land line calls
<11> dino youre nuts :P
<5> when i know its just a big PABX
<5> which is connected to a lot of routers and switches :/
<2> xarius: i don't need to think, that's the basic definition of the government, they like to be in power, and unless stopped by individuals, they always try to push more
<0> heh pmo you know im not racist though
<5> why line rent :/
<11> yea i do Dino ;)
<1> Linux````: ... And did that PABX, phone lines, undersea cabling, sattelites and ***ociated launches, staffing mechanics engineers customer support etc. software developers etc. all just came out of thin air?
<1> Cognition: So instead of doing something about it, why are you whining in a channel about an operating system on DALnet?
<1> Linux````: You rent the line because the line does not have an infinite life.
<2> i am doing something about it, i'm using VOIP and saving lots of money :)
<8> so if skype and all that is regulated, will that affect stuff like TeamSpeak and Ventrilo?
<1> Cognition: I'm sure the government doesn't care.
<10> xarius: I like to believe there is enough money. That all the work done so far has paid itself of long time ago. That one could cut the prices and still see the big companies earn loads of money.
<5> Errrrr . phone comapnies are the biggest profitable . instituions in the world :/ may i ask whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
<1> the_ruthless: Companies exist to make as much money as possible.
<1> Linux````: No they're not, see: lawyers.
<5> comon . i work in one :/ i know the inside story
<5> my phone is free just like urs
<10> xarius: I know. I must be mad to believe a company would exist to deliver a service to people.
<12> care`i roman ?
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