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<0> If that makes sense.
<1> hi everyone
<2> didnt
<0> I don't know any other way to explain it.
<3> chills_: those are users to "own" files and directories
<0> It's not a username for real users to use.
<3> like nobody, www-run and the like
<2> oh
<2> right right
<2> Thanks
<3> a program or service is supposed to run under that account. and the files it needs are supposed to be owned by that user
<0> uid=12
<0> You don't want to give that out to real users.
<2> right like a webserver under www or apache
<3> chills_: exactly
<2> p3nguin: but could i if i wanted to ?



<0> Sure, this is Linux!
<3> chills: this is what happens if something in apache or php is exploited ...
<3> the intruder gets in as apache or www ..
<4> ah yea i know
<1> guys i need your advice -) there is a corporate network with linux gateway, i need to connect our boss to this network from his home PC(windows). How can i do it(vpn+gre is firewalled by our provider)
<4> or nobody ;0
<4> ;)
<3> yeah, or nobody
<3> :)
<4> that doesnt even show up in the who
<4> :|
<3> nitalaut: pptp ?
<1>
<1> doesn't it use port 1723 ?
<1> cos ports 1720+1723 are blocked too -(
<3> yeah, it does, actually..
<1> m
<1> pity
<3> you can try to create an ssh tunnel, or more easy, make use of a ssl vpn.
<1> ssh tunnel sound familiar
<1> i've read something about it
<1> ok i'll google about ssh tunnel then
<1> thanks ! -)
<5> ssh tunnels are neat
<3> nitalaut: btw, this might interest you http://openvpn.net/
<6> they're more than neat
<6> they flat out rock
<3> nitalaut: and if I were you, i would start thinking about a more permanent situation. offering vpn access to the network :)
<1> Enchanter_tim> yeah i read this site
<1> but the problem is that (vpn+gre is firewalled by our provider) as i wrote earlier
<7> hey
<1> i know that vpn is the best solution
<7> anyone got ubuntu here?
<1> and i did it before
<6> eZT3VaN, why?
<1> but THIS provider doesn't allow vpn
<7> because i'm just starting with linux and i have a problem trying to log in as root
<6> You don't log in as root
<1> eZT3VaN> =))
<1> don't do it
<7> yes.. ****s to be a newbie :(
<7> why
<6> no need to
<7> do i have to use the sudo command thing?
<3> nitalaut: umm. why do they block vpn access?
<1> yeah
<7> Mmm..
<3> eZT3VaN: yes. its the ubuntu way
<6> Any user in the "admin" group has sudo access.. and the first user you created during the install is automatically in the admin group
<0> You typically do not need to log in as root.
<7> im not supposed to be using ubuntu. I should use suse 8 instead for this practical work but a friend told me that this first work can be made using any distro because its an intro to linux
<1> Enchanter_tim> because i live in uzbekistan and our government is afraid of any kind of encrypted connections they cannot over(helm ?? i'm sorry don't know this word in english)
<3> suse 8 is extremely old
<7> so was he right? :(
<3> nitalaut: ah, i see
<7> yea.. but thats what we're asked to use
<3> nitalaut: then a ssl tunnel is your best bet.
<6> WebVPN :)
<1> ok i'll google about ssh tunnel and ssl tunnel
<3> nitalaut: exactly



<7> so any command in terminal is the same for any distro? thats my main quesation
<1> thanks
<1> eZT3VaN> most of them are
<7> oh ok..
<6> for the most part, yes... although different distros a lot of times have different file structures
<7> can i ask another question?
<3> nivek: isnt webvpn cisco ?
<6> Yep
<0> enchanter_tim: You mentioned a permanent VPN. Do you have a solution in mind for Linux? I would like to start doing VPN but I don't know where to start.
<7> commands in linux are files right? so where should the adduser file be? because i can't find it anywhere
<1> p3nguin> poptop.org
<1> eZT3VaN> /bin
<0> ezt3van: /usr/sbin/useradd
<1> or /sbin
<3> p3nguin: openvpn/poptop, ssh tunnels.
<6> should be /usr/sbin/adduser on Ubuntu
<1> yeah -)
<7> i did a search and couldn't find a thing.. i'll try to look where u said tho
<0> ezt3van: Learn to use the whereis command.
<1> eZT3VaN> whereis adduser
<3> p3nguin: really depends on the machines that are connecting and the ammount of cash to burn
<7> oh ok thanks
<0> enchanter_tim: I have no cash to burn, but I have static IPs and a fair amount of infrastructure knowledge.
<7> i really need to work on this
<3> p3nguin: if i were you, i would look into openvpn and free/swan then
<0> Hmm... Why do I have Novell GroupWise on my Slackware box?
<3> hehe
<0> When I was looking for the location of some things containing "group" I found "groupwisewizard" and "groupwarewizard."
<0> I wonder if I installed it and just don't remember.
<0> Oh well.
<3> p3nguin: are you running kde?
<0> No. I have KDE, but not using it. Does it come in KDE?
<3> p3nguin: because kde-pin has this groupware wizard to integrate kde-pim with egroupware, groupwise and such
<0> That must be what it is.
<3> egroupware, kolab, openexchange and groupwise
<0> I decided to go ahead and run groupwisewizard, and it came up with that prompt about "don't show me this again" like all KDE things have.
<3> :)
<0> It looked like a QT dialog box.
<3> its the client side of things
<3> btw, if i dont come back online this week, its because the chicken i had was bad
<0> I remember checking out the Novell client for Linux, but I didn't think I installed it.
<3> i have tarantella "terminal server" here. it sold by suse/novel
<3> (i have the trialware)
<0> Terminal services for Novell?
<3> its basically what you/nitalaut would want, but its commercial software
<3> p3nguin: much like the citrix environment
<8> Does anyone know how to fix hebrew in Wine ? When I try to type hebrew it shows "?" for every charecter. English works fine.
<3> thing is, the version i have here is a linux/kde server as your desktop
<0> I would still like to make the vnc module work in X.org.
<3> eliran_: install the fonts within wine?
<3> p3nguin: and nomachine :)
<0> cancel told me to add the line in my xorg.conf and it would automatically start up, but it didn't work out for me.
<3> http://www.nomachine.com/
<8> Enchanter_tim : How would I do that ? I'm kind'a new to wine.
<8> I'm using the "ies4linux" script that installs and configures everything.
<3> eliran_: i have no idea. i am not familiar with hebrew or installing other languages/fonts in wine
<3> :)
<8> Enchanter_tim : Thanks. I'll look into it. l8r !
<3> hebrew in mozilla works fine under linux
<3> (not that i can read anything on that page)
<0> l eight r
<9> wb simmy
<10> does anyone know the dimensions and weight of a box with a 15.4' laptop?
<3> Alkinooos: umm..
<3> 2ftx2ftx1ft ?
<10> ok
<0> htf would we know?
<10> I need to the box dimensions and weight for shipping calculation
<11> call FedEx/Kinkos
<0> Then go get yourself a box and measure it.
<3> although my as400 came on a pallet, and had to be lifted by 2 people


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