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<0> Back <0> The Netherlands lost <0> Netherlands 0-1 Portugal <1> world cup is not over yet <0> nope <0> it's only the second round <1> what set are they in now? <1> so still 32? <0> 16 teams now <0> 4 down <0> 4 to go <1> oh, so it's heating up <0> yeah <1> Hey Al-Ashtar, i stumbled across an article <0> Cognition: about what <1> it's a little out-dated, but a good read never the less -> http://ianmurdock.com/?p=167
<0> yeah thanks <0> seems interesting <2> back with a lil delay ^^ <0> wb <2> thnx <3> Al-Ashtar, I installed Xubuntu, and it doesn't work. It won't let me connect to the internet. Just letting you know. :D <0> did it detect your hardware ? <3> Yeah. <0> then it's a configuration problem by humans <0> not the OS :) <3> And I got a fancy graphical installer, using like 1024x768x32 and everything. <3> And it even got a progress bar, being just as messed up as a progress bar should be. ;P <3> And I've configured it. It just doesn't work. <0> what error does it give you ? <3> None at all. It just isn't connected. <0> check your logs <3> And how'd I go about checking my logs? <1> the_ruthless: what kind of a connection do you have? <3> The computer is connected to my home network through a standard NIC, and set up to use DHCP. It just doesn't. <0> the_ruthless: /var/logs/messeges <1> the_ruthless: dmesg|grep eth <3> Cognition: Doesn't work. <1> what do you get? <0> as in command not found ? <3> I didn't get anything, actually. <0> hehe <1> so you got a blank line after you hit enter? <3> Yeah. <1> lspci|grep - i ether <0> lspci|grep -i ether <0> :P <1> thank you, type what Al-Ashtar just typed <3> It does state what chip my NIC uses. <1> print it out please <3> Cognition: and I did before he typed it, I didn't like that extra space. ;P <0> do this /exec -o lspci|grep -i ether <3> "0000:00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Davicom Semiconductor, Inc. 21x4x DEC-Tulip compatible 10/100 Ethernet (rev 31)". <0> and you didn't get anything for dmesg|grep eth ? <3> True. <4> a friend gave me this linux to try out. <4> how do i switch desktops from twm to gnome or kde ? <5> anybody here <5> believes in hipnose? <4> i dont think so. <3> Al-Ashtar: /var/log/messages doesn't state anything very interesting to the cause. <5> http://x10.putfile.com/10/29119082574.gif <0> davimar: in the login screen you will have the option to change from one session to another, that's IF you have gnome & kde <4> twm doesn't have a login screen that let's you do that. <4> it's just a very simple log in screen <3> davimar: what distro do you got? <4> with only a user name and a p***word <4> he gave me a copy of turbo linux. <4> it was working with kde <4> i was just trying out different things in kde <4> and i clicked to switch the desktop <4> to twm <4> big mistake <3> cusco: that your sister? <0> davimar: there is no other option ? like Session or Shutdown or something like that ? <4> twm log in does not have the ability to switch back. <4> nothing.
<6> davimar: Edit your .xsession maybe? <4> where is .xsession ? <4> etc ? <5> the_ruthless: my sister doesn't like guys who can't p*** trhu ubuntu instalation <5> sorry! <6> Hmmm, no that wouldn't be it, forget that. <0> cusco: LOL <4> i noticed a lot of .conf files in etc. <6> Maybe /etc/alternatives/x-session-manager <6> But that will be a symlink if that's the way it's done. <6> davimar: Could try just doing ctrl-alt-backspace <3> cusco: your sister should know that Xubuntu is buggy and won't do as it tells you it will. <3> Al-Ashtar: /var/log/messages doesn't state anything very interesting to the cause. <5> xubuntu ain't buggy <5> their users are haha <5> ok bad joke <0> lol <4> no alternatives <4> in etc <6> Did you say it was turbo linux? <4> yes. <4> they are pressuring me to put windows back on, if i can't get back to a kde desktop to get email and web browsing. <3> cusco: if you'd be willing to give me some help, just say so. But I've configured it to use DHCP, I've rebooted it like it asked me to, and still it won't work. <1> the_ruthless: do you have only one network interface? <3> Cognition: true. <5> the_ruthless: what won't work? <3> cusco: it won't connect to the internet. <4> this is so ridiculous... <4> here i am on a windows machine getting help to fix a linux one. <5> the_ruthless: so what happens if you do: sudo dhclient eth0 <4> i've googled for the answer <4> it said to edit etc <4> sysconfig <4> displaymanager <4> which does not exist. <4> lol <0> the_ruthless: did you say it asked you to reboot ? <4> maybe i should put windows back on... <3> Al-Ashtar: yes. The documentation said so. <4> nobody here knows how to use linux anyway <4> and linux doesn't seem to be very user friendly. <0> a linux shouldn't need rebooting <1> davimar: then perhaps you should go back to linux <1> davimar: then perhaps you should go back to windows sorry <7> Al-Ashtar: it should if you update the kernel ;) <4> to windows. <3> cusco: want to know everything that happens? <4> yeah i think so too. <4> if just clicking something changes the desktop <4> and you can't easily change it back. <0> Cancel: yes, but he didn't update the kernel <4> you'd think there'd be an answer somewhere. <5> the_ruthless: just the last 3 lines <5> should be enough <0> either he's lying or he's lying <0> lol <0> try this <0> ifconfig eth0 start <6> davimar: You got a new login screen with only login and p***word? <0> or up <0> I'm not sure <5> up <0> yeah <0> up <3> cusco: "DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5" "No DHCPOFFERS received." "No working leases in persistent database - sleeping." <0> thanks cusco <0> the_ruthless: ifconfig eth0 up <5> the_ruthless: where does your cable connect to? <5> Al-Ashtar: it is up, else dhclient would not accept it <3> cusco: router with DHCP. <1> the_ruthless: ok, this seems to be a reported bug with your interface <3> Al-Ashtar: "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission denied" <5> the_ruthless: check that the cable is good connected <3> Cognition: Oh? Tell more!
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