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<0> Back
<0> The Netherlands lost
<0> Netherlands 0-1 Portugal
<1> world cup is not over yet
<0> nope
<0> it's only the second round
<1> what set are they in now?
<1> so still 32?
<0> 16 teams now
<0> 4 down
<0> 4 to go
<1> oh, so it's heating up
<0> yeah
<1> Hey Al-Ashtar, i stumbled across an article
<0> Cognition: about what
<1> it's a little out-dated, but a good read never the less -> http://ianmurdock.com/?p=167



<0> yeah thanks
<0> seems interesting
<2> back with a lil delay ^^
<0> wb
<2> thnx
<3> Al-Ashtar, I installed Xubuntu, and it doesn't work. It won't let me connect to the internet. Just letting you know. :D
<0> did it detect your hardware ?
<3> Yeah.
<0> then it's a configuration problem by humans
<0> not the OS :)
<3> And I got a fancy graphical installer, using like 1024x768x32 and everything.
<3> And it even got a progress bar, being just as messed up as a progress bar should be. ;P
<3> And I've configured it. It just doesn't work.
<0> what error does it give you ?
<3> None at all. It just isn't connected.
<0> check your logs
<3> And how'd I go about checking my logs?
<1> the_ruthless: what kind of a connection do you have?
<3> The computer is connected to my home network through a standard NIC, and set up to use DHCP. It just doesn't.
<0> the_ruthless: /var/logs/messeges
<1> the_ruthless: dmesg|grep eth
<3> Cognition: Doesn't work.
<1> what do you get?
<0> as in command not found ?
<3> I didn't get anything, actually.
<0> hehe
<1> so you got a blank line after you hit enter?
<3> Yeah.
<1> lspci|grep - i ether
<0> lspci|grep -i ether
<0> :P
<1> thank you, type what Al-Ashtar just typed
<3> It does state what chip my NIC uses.
<1> print it out please
<3> Cognition: and I did before he typed it, I didn't like that extra space. ;P
<0> do this /exec -o lspci|grep -i ether
<3> "0000:00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Davicom Semiconductor, Inc. 21x4x DEC-Tulip compatible 10/100 Ethernet (rev 31)".
<0> and you didn't get anything for dmesg|grep eth ?
<3> True.
<4> a friend gave me this linux to try out.
<4> how do i switch desktops from twm to gnome or kde ?
<5> anybody here
<5> believes in hipnose?
<4> i dont think so.
<3> Al-Ashtar: /var/log/messages doesn't state anything very interesting to the cause.
<5> http://x10.putfile.com/10/29119082574.gif
<0> davimar: in the login screen you will have the option to change from one session to another, that's IF you have gnome & kde
<4> twm doesn't have a login screen that let's you do that.
<4> it's just a very simple log in screen
<3> davimar: what distro do you got?
<4> with only a user name and a p***word
<4> he gave me a copy of turbo linux.
<4> it was working with kde
<4> i was just trying out different things in kde
<4> and i clicked to switch the desktop
<4> to twm
<4> big mistake
<3> cusco: that your sister?
<0> davimar: there is no other option ? like Session or Shutdown or something like that ?
<4> twm log in does not have the ability to switch back.
<4> nothing.



<6> davimar: Edit your .xsession maybe?
<4> where is .xsession ?
<4> etc ?
<5> the_ruthless: my sister doesn't like guys who can't p*** trhu ubuntu instalation
<5> sorry!
<6> Hmmm, no that wouldn't be it, forget that.
<0> cusco: LOL
<4> i noticed a lot of .conf files in etc.
<6> Maybe /etc/alternatives/x-session-manager
<6> But that will be a symlink if that's the way it's done.
<6> davimar: Could try just doing ctrl-alt-backspace
<3> cusco: your sister should know that Xubuntu is buggy and won't do as it tells you it will.
<3> Al-Ashtar: /var/log/messages doesn't state anything very interesting to the cause.
<5> xubuntu ain't buggy
<5> their users are haha
<5> ok bad joke
<0> lol
<4> no alternatives
<4> in etc
<6> Did you say it was turbo linux?
<4> yes.
<4> they are pressuring me to put windows back on, if i can't get back to a kde desktop to get email and web browsing.
<3> cusco: if you'd be willing to give me some help, just say so. But I've configured it to use DHCP, I've rebooted it like it asked me to, and still it won't work.
<1> the_ruthless: do you have only one network interface?
<3> Cognition: true.
<5> the_ruthless: what won't work?
<3> cusco: it won't connect to the internet.
<4> this is so ridiculous...
<4> here i am on a windows machine getting help to fix a linux one.
<5> the_ruthless: so what happens if you do: sudo dhclient eth0
<4> i've googled for the answer
<4> it said to edit etc
<4> sysconfig
<4> displaymanager
<4> which does not exist.
<4> lol
<0> the_ruthless: did you say it asked you to reboot ?
<4> maybe i should put windows back on...
<3> Al-Ashtar: yes. The documentation said so.
<4> nobody here knows how to use linux anyway
<4> and linux doesn't seem to be very user friendly.
<0> a linux shouldn't need rebooting
<1> davimar: then perhaps you should go back to linux
<1> davimar: then perhaps you should go back to windows sorry
<7> Al-Ashtar: it should if you update the kernel ;)
<4> to windows.
<3> cusco: want to know everything that happens?
<4> yeah i think so too.
<4> if just clicking something changes the desktop
<4> and you can't easily change it back.
<0> Cancel: yes, but he didn't update the kernel
<4> you'd think there'd be an answer somewhere.
<5> the_ruthless: just the last 3 lines
<5> should be enough
<0> either he's lying or he's lying
<0> lol
<0> try this
<0> ifconfig eth0 start
<6> davimar: You got a new login screen with only login and p***word?
<0> or up
<0> I'm not sure
<5> up
<0> yeah
<0> up
<3> cusco: "DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5" "No DHCPOFFERS received." "No working leases in persistent database - sleeping."
<0> thanks cusco
<0> the_ruthless: ifconfig eth0 up
<5> the_ruthless: where does your cable connect to?
<5> Al-Ashtar: it is up, else dhclient would not accept it
<3> cusco: router with DHCP.
<1> the_ruthless: ok, this seems to be a reported bug with your interface
<3> Al-Ashtar: "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission denied"
<5> the_ruthless: check that the cable is good connected
<3> Cognition: Oh? Tell more!


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