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<0> lmao
<1> Techgurl: how old are you?
<2> 40
<0> nice
<3> the_ruthless: i'm very brave when alcohol is involved though
<3> damn damn damn:) the_ruthless see, she is married with kids
<4> no some ****ed up girl sent me this email with stupid questions
<0> arn't we all
<1> Alcohol makes you stupid. And really not brave, just less careful.
<0> bbc is pumping out some good tunes tonight
<1> Cognition: should that stop anyone?
<2> what questions?
<5> so no one knows what i should type into Grub?
<3> the_ruthless: LOL good point
<4> for an example, if you chock a smurf what color would it become ? it's already blue
<6> i know a bit about linux - test your disks



<3> MokonaSan: There is a sequence of commands, but i'm not even sure of your linux kernel
<1> Cognition: when I was 18, I met this lady at a pub. Turns out she was 28 and had two kids. Didn't stop us from having some mighty good old fashioned fun.
<3> MokonaSan: i'm not sure if it is even installed yet
<5> it's grub 0.97. The FC5 installation got about 85% done
<0> Cognition what you drinking?
<3> MokonaSan: hmm
<5> let me see if i can find what version of the kernel is included in FC5
<6> test your disks
<4> what's the opposite of the word opposite ?
<5> i believe it's 2.6.16
<5> but right now it's just sitting with a prompt: grub>
<3> MokonaSan: find /vmlinuz
<3> what do you get?
<4> how come Tarzan doesn't have a beard ?
<4> I'm deleting this email
<3> MokonaSan: if the output is many lines, paste it in a pastebin
<5> Cognition: with a forward slash like that, right?
<3> exactly like i typed it
<5> well my / dir is on hda3, but I tried that and it still says file not found
<3> hmm
<5> what else should i try?
<4> you could try installing ubuntu :/
<3> Al-Ashtar: oh quit it:)
<4> LOL
<4> ok ok
<5> heh
<5> so anyway... should i try the rescue cd?
<6> Al-Ashtar you run ubuntu right?
<5> or perhaps a Knoppix live cd or something?
<3> ok, let's try this ..
<4> yeah R-C
<5> ok, go for it
<3> find /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.16-1.2133_FC5
<3> any luck?
<6> and is it as user friendly as i've heard?
<4> R-C: even more
<7> GtG
<3> R-C: Ubuntu, Mandriva, Suse, and Fedora are all user friendly
<5> still tries to look at the floppy for some reason
<3> in fact, i think Mandriva is the most friendly, very GUI oriented
<8> Debian!
<3> MokonaSan: what's the error message?
<3> randyg__: debian is for you and me, not newbies
<5> everytime so far it's been Error 15: File not found
<3> ok, we'll try again to zoom down on the kernel, theproblem with find in grub is that thte name must be absolute
<3> but i'll give it a try
<2> Landros is supposed to be the easiet
<3> find /boot/vmlinuz
<3> find /boot/vmlinuz*
<3> and find /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-1.2133_FC5
<6> i downloaded a ****load of fedora documentation so far this weekend, next weekend i'm gonna answer some peoples questions
<2> I used Mandrake a lot in the old days it was alway pretty friendly
<8> newbies are the people who least should be exposed to the ilk that is thw two major desktop environments...
<1> Yay, KDE! :D
<5> be back in a bit sorry i have to run somewhere
<2> most users are not going to go through all the stuff Linux users have to go through to get stuff working though
<8> debian Just Works (TM).
<2> I installed FC 5 a week ago and I am still fixing stuff
<3> Techgurl: if you have a reasonably new hardware set, it's pretty easy



<4> I don't think linux would attract Windows Users if it wasn't for the friendliness
<3> Techgurl: our friend Al-Ashtar here finds it very friendly and easy, just switched from windows
<3> right Al-Ashtar?
<6> i installed FC5 friday night and dont know how to fix things
<4> FC5 ****S
<4> I mean RULEZ
<4> LOL
<4> Linux Ubuntu 2.6.15-25-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Jun 14 11:34:19 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
<8> R-C: moral of the story, don't install fc. :P
<3> LOL, Al-Ashtar yeah, when you create your own distribution, then i'll listen to you :)
<2> well lets see sound card still don't work, glx drivers won't work, DVD won't work
<1> I switched from OS X and WinXp two weeks ago, installed Slackware, and I'm off using the computer, enjoying myself. :D
<3> same goes to randyg__ :)
<3> the_ruthless: you're crazy, you're installing the grand daddy of all distros
<2> I am using it too but lots of stuff needs fixing still
<3> this is the oldest distribution alive
<8> Techgurl: ... what I told R-C. fedora ****s. install something else. better use of time than fixing fc. :P
<2> I always had good luck with Redhat
<3> i used FC5, all hardware configured, yum is very easy, and minimal work
<6> i hate RH
<2> I am going to try ubantu on another pc dapper prob
<6> i dont know why, i just do
<3> Techgurl: you mean Ubuntu
<2> yum is easy but it does not resolve all dependencys
<1> Cognition; I know. But I like it. It works, it lets me use old hardware, it's easy to install, and it works.
<2> yeah I ordered cd's free
<3> Techgurl: it resolves all dependencies IF it can find the packages, to find the packages you must have good repositories
<3> Techgurl: so it's a matter of having good repositories
<1> I've powered the computer off once since installed Slack two weeks ago, and that was because of a thunder storm.
<2> I have all the repositories they listed
<2> and still have dependency problems
<6> just imagine bill gates shipping free xp
<3> Do you have Livna, pbone, dries?
<4> Techgurl: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS auto-detected my VGA Card, Sound Card, LAN Card, WiFi Card, Modem, Screen Resolution, TouchPAD, Card Reader, Logitech Wireless Mouse, AND an External M*** Storage Device
<2> pbone is not listed by RH
<4> did I forget anything ?
<2> or is dries I have Livna
<4> yeah
<3> Techgurl: yes, that's why i'm saying use those
<4> Arabic Keyboard layout
<3> Techgurl: they are not installed by default, but there is no package that i haven't seen in there
<2> how come RH doesn not tell you that?
<4> Multimedia keyboard buttons
<3> Techgurl: because there repositories are not RedHat's
<4> that's about it
<3> there/these
<2> neither is livna but its on their site
<2> and greywall or what ever it is
<3> Techgurl: it's only a repo file, what's the big deal, copy the file, put it in /etc/yum.repos.d and you're off
<4> working after auto detection ?
<1> Cognition: even though I'm using Slack now, I failed in the end trying to install Gentoo.
<3> Techgurl: because these are not official RH repositories
<4> or you did it manually
<3> Al-Ashtar: all of them except my webcam (because it's a rare driver that i had to download)
<2> livna and greyhack are not RH either but they tell you to add them if you wan't other non gpl packages that are not part of the distro
<3> Techgurl: maybe that's why, never thought of it like that
<3> Techgurl: either way, just adding these repositories, gives you more than you need
<2> I don't know but I will add them now that I know
<4> the_ruthless: why don't you give ubuntu a try
<2> so thanks for telling me
<6> I like FC5 because I got it with a magazine for free
<4> use the live cd
<2> I did too
<3> Techgurl: Most welcome, now you owe me a date :P
<2> thats why I installed it I said what the heck I got lots of boxes here
<2> hehe
<2> I am prob too old for you hun
<4> you don't have to install it to give it a try
<1> Al-Ashtar: I don't need to, 'cause Slack just works so damn fine. :D
<3> Al-Ashtar is now the press spokesman of Ubuntu ...
<4> the_ruthless: did you get your mouse working ? :P
<3> he's out walking the streets shouting Ubuntu Rules with a Z as in Rulez
<2> I heard dapper drake is buggy too
<4> it's not buggy


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