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<0> Al-Ashtar, why, thank you, but it's still probably 3-5 hours 'till my bed time. ;P
<1> well randyg__ I don't recall the original discussion specifying that your home lan. :P
<2> it's friday night, why do you have a bedtime?
<3> well it's 3am here and I'm only planning on going to bed @ about 10pm, i hope you stay up late here :)
<1> randyg__: In that case I could tell you if you have a backup dhcp server then the dynamic ip network will not go down :P
<0> frustum, knowing my body and the amount of time I'm usually able to stay awake, that was a healthy estimate. ;P
<1> just as you have a backup for your routers and switchs
<3> never forget your software backups
<3> i'm very keen to get to know linux, i can't wait to get rid of those system crashes
<3> on ms that is
<3> is there any nice games for people without xp in their lives?
<1> R-C you've made a good choice by installing Fedora. Both Ubuntu and Fedora are user-friendly I hear.
<3> i hope so
<1> Ubuntu has attracted lots of newbies like myself
<3> i had red hat 8 before
<3> one of my clients are migrating to ubuntu
<1> R-C why don't you install ubuntu on one of your other xp boxes ?
<3> i configured it relativly easy for simple things
<1> you could dual boot xp and ubuntu on one box
<1> and dual boot xp and fedora on the other
<3> my family will cut me
<1> lol
<1> Ubuntu has a LiveCD version of the os
<3> they know linux like i know perl
<1> you don't have to install it to try it
<3> yea that to me sounds like a great concept
<1> check it out
<1> http://www.ubuntu.com
<1> you might like it
<3> well this server i have is going to be my gateway later
<3> i have worked on ubuntu
<1> Dapper Drake ?
<1> the new Ubuntu ?
<3> so if you guys have any pointer for me about securing my network it would be great
<3> no Drake never seen it
<3> the ubuntu is from about end last year i think
<1> the new Ubuntu 6.06 LTS is called Dapper Drake
<3> well i'm lying i dont know how old it is
<3> o ok
<1> it's very user-friendly
<1> and speaking on my behave
<3> that sounds like my kinda linux
<1> It auto detected all my hardware even the new Logitech wireless mouse I have plugged in
<3> how long have you been using linux?
<1> less than a month I think
<3> ok
<3> well i've been playing with it on and off for about 18months
<3> i can't use the console at all
<1> and by hardware I mean VGA, Sound, Monitor, TouchPAD, Card Reader, AND External USB M*** Storage Device
<3> i don't know any unix commands
<3> wow
<1> R-C: I'm not using the console either
<3> won't fedora also detect my hardware?
<1> I can't say, because I never used it. but from what I hear, it should
<3> well it's a basic server it's being installed on so i think it should
<3> theres no funny hardware in it
<1> first I installed the new Red Hat Enterprise Linux WS4
<1> had some problems with both LAN and WiFi cards
<1> and jblack suggested I use debian, so I did
<1> also had some problems with WiFi and Screen Resolution
<1> then he suggested Ubuntu
<3> are you using ubuntu now?
<1> since the day I installed it, till now
<1> never had a problem
<1> yup
<3> did you also use win before or mac?
<1> yeah I've used win since 94
<1> I think it was 3.11 back then
<1> can't remember
<3> the first networking one
<3> win for workgroups
<3> you mean before the internet
<3> :)
<1> I didn't know about networks back then so I don't know if it was the networking one or not
<3> 3.1 couldn't network 3.11 could
<3> i started with networking on win server 3.51
<3> crappy times
<1> LOL
<1> yes it was
<3> slow running at 10Mbps
<1> I still have that router
<1> LOL
<3> shame now we have 1Gbps
<1> it's in the basement some where
<3> what speed do you connect to internet
<1> do you have to ask that question ? LOL
<3> :)
<1> a ****ty connection
<1> 60Kbps download rate
<3> like me 56k
<1> even thou it's a 512ADSL connection
<3> how is that?
<1> I have no idea
<3> is the modem working fine?
<1> yes
<1> :)
<1> it's the ISP
<3> are you using shared bandwitdh in your area?
<3> ah isp
<3> can't you change isp's?
<1> all ISPs are like this
<3> where do you live?
<1> Kuwait
<3> o ok
<3> is there lots of people using dsl there?
<1> hmm
<1> 50% maybe
<0> ...and the rest is using 56k modems?
<1> yes
<3> don't feel bad, i connect with a dail up modem and at best connect at 46kbps
<0> Suddenly I understand why most laptops are delivered with 56k modems.
<3> where are you from the_ruthless?
<0> Norway.
<3> ah dsl lots better there i guess
<0> And my crappy out-in-the-bush ADSL is 2.5Mbps/384kbps, or something like that.
<1> crappy ?
<3> wow
<3> we don't even have that fast here in south africa
<0> Yeah, as I live 4.6 kilometres from the nearest sentral/whatever-it's-called, my max download is 1.9Mbps anyway.
<3> the 2.5Mbps
<3> exchange
<0> "exchange", perhaps, is the correct word.
<3> here our telecomms company ripps us of for dsl
<4> it's called a "central office"
<3> they dont have any compitition
<0> Anyway, planning on getting 4Mbps SDSL when I move in August... I hate the whole concept of ADSL. I like having a proper upload.
<1> simmy: what's your connection ?
<4> cablemodem
<3> what does the S stand for
<4> symetric digital subscriber line.
<0> SDSL = Symmetric.
<3> ah and that is up/downstream the same or what?
<1> what's the speed of a cablemodem
<0> With ADSL, one cannot have full upload while having full download, and vice versa, and the upload is ****y anyway. SDSL is full duplex. And yeah, same speed up and down.
<1> simmy
<3> and what's the speed like with your cablemodem simmy?
<3> sorry Al-Ashtar
<4> my cablemodem is 6mbps/384kbps
<0> And that's even worse than my ADSL, in the ways of upload compared to download, anyway.
<5> that ****s
<0> And what do you got, Isaac-Lew?
<5> I'm 16Mb/2Mb
<1> Isaac-Lew @@
<0> That's pretty decent, Isaac-Lew. What do you use it for? And what does it cost?
<1> Isaac-Lew: how much does that connection cost you ?
<3> damn you people have huge bandwidth
<5> $57.95US/month
<1> you spoke my mind R-C
<1> Isaac-Lew: are you serious ?
<5> not really, Scandanavia, Japan & Korea generally are faster for much less
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