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<0> nope terminfo doesn't work
<0> I'm just wondering
<0> I don't have that problem
<1> Isnt Ashtar like a queen ?
<1> or beauty
<0> !
<0> nope
<2> Al-Ashtar, shu ya3ani alshatar?
<2> :p
<0> He's a companion of our prophet
<0> sahabi
<2> our prophet?
<0> my prophet
<0> sorry
<0> :/
<2> are you muslim?
<0> yes ofcourse
<2> i see
<2> then mohammed is ur prophet
<2> :)
<3> I think this whole Linux thing, socially, is very interesting.
<4> omg, it's a mindset not a code base
<4> :)
<5> OMG, it's a kernel not an OS.
<2> should we talk only about linux & computers?
<0> LOL
<2> whythehell2, why you clone :p
<3> At least then we would be on-topic, Dino. ;P
<5> I have two irssi, one in my office, one in my home. I'm ssh'd into the office though.
<6> Thusly.
<2> ah
<2> right the_ruthless i'm bored talking about computers :.3
<2> i need to get new computer as soon as possible
<0> me too
<3> Me too. My old one died.
<2> because im sharing connection from the one im on now
<0> hey
<0> are rack servers expensive ?
<3> I hate the way electronics die after four or five years.
<0> or what ever they call them
<0> :/
<2> dont hey me
<7> RAID
<2> rack servers?
<3> Depends on what hardware you want, Al-Ashtar.
<0> yeah, I mean the ones which are like 2 inchs thick
<0> or something like that
<2> :s
<3> It still depends on what you want inside them. :)
<0> are they called rack servers ?
<3> Yeah.
<3> Rack-mountable servers, for putting in racks are indeed called rack servers.
<7> lol
<3> Rack servers can often also be stacked in stacks if you don't have racks to put them in.
<7> who knows of a good, free packet sniffer for windoze?
<2> is there big computer store's in kuwait Al-Ashtar ?
<0> nope
<3> So where do you order your hardware from?
<0> order ?
<0> hehe
<0> there is city called Hawali
<3> "...where do you raid your hardware?" ;P
<0> it's like silicon valley
<2> yes.. i heard about hawali
<2> :>
<0> everything is there
<0> and illegal
<0> lol
<2> and you live in salmiya?
<0> there is only ONE store that sells Windows with its Licence
<2> salmiyah is the capital should be there good computer stores
<0> the rest are all copies
<3> Sounds neat.
<0> salmiyah isn't the capital :)
<2> hmm, kuwait is small at all and i remember the capital is kuwait itself
<0> I also found Suse Enterprise there too
<3> Al-Ashtar, if you were a madman, you could've ordered a cheap Xeon 1U rack server from Dell... The price converted from NOK to USD would be $789.
<2> but salmiya is famous place
<0> yes it is a famous place
<0> brb
<2> tyt
<8> can somebody please tell me if i'd be able to connect with my freshly installed fedora thru a xp box with it's connection shared?
<3> You'd probably be able to connect with your freshly installed fedora through a XP box with its connection shared.
<8> :)
<3> If the Fedora is set to work with DHCP.
<3> Dunno how your network's set up.
<8> no i gave it a static ip
<8> i have 3 xp boxes sharing a modem connectio
<8> on a private network
<3> Well, the XP box with the modem should be working as a DHCP server, and the rest should be DHCP clients.
<8> no all static
<8> it uses dhcp on the modem
<8> but the nic is static
<3> You're indeed a strange one. So, anyway, if you've set up all the static settings on your Fedora box, it should probably work.
<8> ah that's great news
<3> That's the power of networking and TCP/IP.
<8> with only 4 pc's is it really that strange to run static ip's?
<0> nope
<3> I use DHCP always. It's less stress. I just plug a cable in somewhere, and everything works.
<3> And the network'll probably be more responsive and quicker, too.
<9> what if your dhcp server is down? then all of your other boxes stop working too when the lease expires.
<8> i'll understand when you have 10 or more boxes
<3> Dunno if that is actually a measurable fact or just my bad experiences from Win98SE, but static IP's are bad.
<9> and how the hell will dhcp make it more responsive or quicker? heh
<9> static ips are good.
<9> what if you want to, dunno, connect to another box on the lan, without setting dynamic dns up?
<3> Static IP's were bad back in the days, perhaps. ;P
<8> i find static really simple to use for such a small network
<9> why were they ever bad?
<3> Whaddya mean, randyg__ ?
<3> randyg__, sluggish performance. Problems finding and connecting to other computers. Such silly problems. But Win98SE was a problem in itself.
<0> R-C: your modem is working like a hub ? or it's on your xp box ?
<10> you're using win98 as a litmus test?!
<3> Nobody is using Win98 anymore! (I hope.)
<9> the_ruthless: let's say I want to ssh into another box on my lan. if I have dhcp, and don't ***ign fixed IPs by mac address (which would be no better than static IPs from a network management viewpoint), I have to set up dynamic dns or some other way of telling what the IP of the other box is at any given time.
<10> LOTS do.... the clueless ones. :)
<2> I'm !!
<3> So, anyway, I got a neat little hardware router. It got DHCP. I just connect things, and they work. It's easy.
<8> i have a hub in the network, modem is in 1 xp box
<2> win98 with kernel 2.6
<2> :P
<9> the_ruthless: ok, you connect them, they work, then what if you want to ssh into one of them over the network?
<3> randyg__: But I don't. ;P
<0> R-C: put you xp box that has the modem as your gateway in your Fedora box
<9> so WHY, again, is dhcp better than static?
<3> It's not better, I just prefer it.
<3> Because it doesn't need me to remember anything.
<9> dhcp without mac-based ips is one of the most annoying things ever invented.
<8> i have done that Al-Ashtar, but my plan is to make the linux box the gateway later this weekend
<0> randyg__: it's quicker, you don't need to configure every computer you plug in your lan
<0> R-C: good choise
<0> choice
<8> yea i've sort of had enough of ms
<10> randyg__ : The general concensus has always been... put your servers up on static IP's and put clients up on dhcp.
<9> Al-Ashtar: no, but I need to configure dynamic dns, or set up mac-based ips, both of which are far, far more work. :P
<9> simmy: you never ssh into "clients"? heh.
<9> I ssh to my laptop all the time.
<3> Right now, I got two computers here in front of me. There's one downstairs that my sister uses, and then there's the file server. I also have the 486 with Win3.11 and MS-DOS 6.22 for true oldskool gaming. I don't need SSH. DHCP fills _MY_ needs.
<10> randyg__ : If I have to get into a client machine (on-site), I have the user get me their IP address. It makes them feel more useful (in my experience)
<9> heh
<3> And if anyone comes to visit, they just grab some cable and connect. Magic!
<8> how do you get linux and win to work together like file sharing?
<9> I don't feel useful going to the other side of the room, opening up my laptop, logging in, ifconfig, closing the laptop, walking back, typing in the ip, hoping I remembered it... :P
<10> R-C : Look up www.samba.org ... samba's got what you want.
<3> R-C, Samba.
<9> R-C: samba
<0> randyg__: you only need to ***ign the router an ip and tell it to give out ips from a range you choose, put the router as the dns server, no need for dynamic dns, or mac-based ips
<10> randyg__ : yes. How silly of me to think that your wants and needs might actually be different from soneone else's! I should know, by now, that your way is the only way.
<3> Now, that's also a good point from Al-Ashtar.
<8> it's a very involved process Samba right?
<10> R-C : Have you been to O'Reilly and checked out "Using Samba?" It's a GREAT book that's available online for free in both html and pdf form. It's available at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba/chapter/book/index.html and http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba/chapter/book/indexpdf.html
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