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<0> But you're probably right, I should probably try one of the other distros.
<1> i had to cancel the installation
<1> so i was not able to install the game
<2> Hetero: how did you issue the eject command?
<1> what do you mean by that?
<2> you said you were trying to eject without unmounting, how?
<1> no
<1> i got confused
<1> forget the previous
<2> ok then, listen carefully to what i'm saying
<2> eject the CD without unmounting
<0> But I'm off again. Be back in some hours.
<1> i wasn't unmounting the drive
<1> i mean i didn't
<2> Hetero: when you say eject, do you mean pushing the button?
<1> yes



<2> sigh
<2> ok, listen carefully, i'll only say this once ...
<2> eject -m deviceName
<2> example, eject -m /dev/cdrom
<2> this will eject the drive without unmounting it
<1> and i've clicked the icon with the right mouse button and then clicked on Eject
<2> did you read what i just typed?
<1> yeah
<2> good, try it.
<1> okay
<2> gluck
<1> thanks
<1> but i have an another
<1> problem
<2> shoot
<1> when i double-click on Setup.exe (to install the game) i get an error saying cannot find path c:\windows\temp\CLG016.tmp
<1> my path c: does not exist
<2> Hetero: try to use the terminal
<2> type wine Setup.exe
<1> okay
<1> i will try
<3> Hey people, I'm here and ready for some more tips and tricks about Linux
<2> Ahh, finished watching StarWars III
<2> R-C: the force will be with you
<3> ah thanks Cognition
<3> I understand you are quite the pro when it comes to Fedora Cognition.
<2> R-C: nope, i'm proudly still learning
<2> R-C: but i can try to help, what's up?
<3> the day when you stop learning is the day you start loosing out bigtime
<3> especially in this industry
<2> yup, unfortunately, some individuals intentionally stop learning
<2> guess they feel they're skywalker descendents
<2> jeez i'm really sounding like a geek right now
<3> Cognition I'll do that when I've had enough of the whole IT game and go live in a beach house to retire
<3> it's not really geeky, it's the honest truth
<3> Cognition do you know of a site where I can get the commands and descriptions for terminal, I started with the "man" command and it's helpful
<3> if you know what commands there is ofcourse
<2> you can start by learning all about bash
<2> this is a good start -> http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html
<3> ah ok, is that the start of the beginning?
<2> This is a good start for beginning to work with bash, read it fully, carefully, take your time with it, and you will learn a lot, if you want information about a specific command, the first thing to do is man, second is google
<2> if you need even more basic knowledge (i don't know how experienced are you) but things like adding removing users, or creating accounts or stuff like that, this is the place to start -> http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/
<3> can you give me an idea what linux programming is?
<3> i have roughly 14 years experience working on most thing from pc's right thru to atm switches, most part of it doing networking, more LAN than Wan but lately way more wan
<3> unfortunately all experience is on ms
<4> mau tanya nih
<4> ada orang nggak
<5> gah
<1> hello
<1> i need help
<0> We all do. ;P
<5> me too, got a whole bunch of yard work... and I don't feel like doing it
<0> I'm actually going out in the forest with my grandmother, fixing gates and fences and stuff. (So the animals don't go astray.)
<1> my firewall under linux is replying to ping (ICMP echo) requests
<5> omg
<5> NO!!!
<1> how to block that thing
<5> the horror
<1> it's a potencial threat you know
<5> ur computer is broadcasting its IP address!
<0> Isn't it scarier if the thing is NOT responding to ping?



<0> Personally, I'd find a computer with stealth more interesting to crack than one without.
<0> It should be quite obvious why.
<0> But yes, I'm gone again.
<1> a hacker can get the ping reply that a machine on that particular IP address exists and can then make malicious things to that machine
<1> so how can i make that thing stealthed?
<1> there is no setting for the firewall for that
<5> you don't need ping to find a machine
<1> well, it's a threat
<2> Hetero: your IP Address is 213.172.251.191
<5> really, it's not
<1> i am on windows right now
<5> if the firewall is doing its job.. ping is harmless
<2> you're in slovenia
<6> windows is far more threateing that replying to pings,
<2> your ISP is Voljatel telekomunikacije d.d.
<5> now, if you allow ICMP _through_ the firewall.. it _is_ possible to embed other stuff in the icmp packets
<1> every other ports are stealthed, but the icmp echo is sendind the reply
<2> so it would be silly ot say that if someone knows your IP, they can threaten you, the whole purpose of your IP is that people can reach you
<1> another thing
<5> Hetero, if every other port is blocked... then it doesn't matter if someone knows you're there
<5> they won't be able to get to anything anyway
<5> they'll just waste time scanning
<1> every other ports are *stealthed*, but the icmp echo is sendind the reply
<6> daucus_carota: but.. but.. we know he's there now!
<5> Hetero, ping isn't a port
<1> :)
<1> isn't?
<5> no
<5> ping is ICMP
<2> Hetero: i'm sniffing on your IP, nothing
<5> there is no "ping port"
<1> okay what setting have i set that this reply is active?
<1> i am on windows now
<1> the problematic firewall is under linux
<5> Hetero, no idea.. I don't know what type of firewall you're using
<1> how to check?
<2> Hetero: you need to know the basics of networking before trying to optimize the network settings, apperantly you have a big picture that is not well formed at all
<6> I think it'd be more amusing to set ping to reply "BUKAKKE!" than to not respond at all.
<6> You know, to confuse people.
<5> Hetero, if you installed it, you should know what it is
<1> i have the fedora built-in firewall
<1> it's Firestarter i guess
<6> Iptables, more likely,
<2> Hetero: are you on fedora?
<1> well, actually on pingo linux (a slovenian distro of linux that is based on fedora core 4)
<5> block icmp, on the edit menu maybe?
<2> ok, try the following
<2> sudo setup
<6> Anyway, back to watching Deutschland sodomize Sweden,
<1> sudo setup
<1> what then?
<5> t's similar to asking a question like "Will a condom protect me?"
<5> The answer to that is (most probably) yes, if we're talking about HIV. However, if someone asked that question and then ran a motorcycle head-on into a wall at 100 mph, I guess one would have to answer no. (Kids, don't try this at home!
<1> just sudo setup?
<2> yes just sudo setup
<1> okay
<1> and then a window will pop up?
<2> would you do it first!!
<1> where is the block icmp setting?
<2> sigh
<2> now, go to firewall settings
<1> i must reboot to linux first
<2> or firewall configuration, however written
<2> oh ..
<1> yeah
<2> nevermind then, let someone else help ya
<5> haha
<2> later
<1> another thing
<2> Hetero: do me a favor
<2> Hetero: read this -> http://www.tldp.org/LDP/nag2/index.html
<2> and when you are done reading completely, then come back with all kinds of questions
<1> if i uninstall WINE or any other application, the settings for WINE or any other application stay on the local disk
<2> Hetero: they stay in your home folder should you have one


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