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<0> p3nguin: Because something like /mnt/windows would be better.
<1> Hobo: are you root?
<2> If you had read the man page for `mount' you would know that mounting NTFS, by default, makes files owned by root and not readable by someone else.
<3> i am root for the moment
<2> Mount it like I said and it should work like you want.
<3> um...the icon disappeared
<3> there was the hda5 icon on desktop and now its gone
<3> is that a good thing?
<2> We don't need a desktop to be able to mount a device.
<3> oh foak...
<1> umm.. /mnt is usually used for temporary filesystem mounts
<3> i mounted the wrong partition
<3> lol
<1> such as if you're cloning a filesystem or doing a restore
<3> mannn i ****
<1> anyway, i'd say it's not recommended to put a mount to /mnt in /etc/fstab
<2> You're saying this is not going to be a temporary mount?
<1> unless that's part of your mounting scheme
<1> as /mnt/floppy /mnt/cdrom /mnt/diska and so on
<2> I said not to put an entry in fstab, but mount it to /mnt. This seems proper to me.
<1> p3nguin, The above was NOT directed to you
<2> Oh, I thought you were correcting my procedure.
<3> p3nguin: i mounted hda1 instead of hda5
<4> last time i mount windows partition i broke it heh
<3> p3nguin: then i mounted hda5 as u told me to without the /mnt
<0> HoboTurtle: Why without?
<2> HoboTurtle: I think you should be more careful to do the right thing.
<1> Alright, France plays tonight
<1> in about 30 min
<2> HoboTurtle: You come in here wanting help, then can't follow instructions?
<1> I need to get ready :) later
<2> Later.
<3> ummm you guys were talking about how its unneccesary
<0> HoboTurtle: No...
<0> You need a mountpoint.
<0> We didn't say unnecessary at any point.
<2> HoboTurtle: unmount everything you don't need to have mounted at this time.
<2> HoboTurtle: Then follow instructions to mount the device you intend to use.
<2> HoboTurtle: What I said was: It is not necessary to make an entry in the fstab to mount a device.
<3> ohhhh i seee
<3> my bad folks
<2> HoboTurtle: You also have to define a mount point to mount a device. Either in fstab or on the command line.
<2> Use the umount command to unmount all the unneeded devies, then start again.
<3> okay
<2> Clean out your fstab from debris if you added things that are not needed or not following correct syntax.
<2> Then let's mount that device the right way.
<2> I'll collect a little information from you so I can output the proper commands.
<3> thanks alot
<2> What is the device you want to mount, hda5?
<3> yes
<2> Is this mount going to be temporary or permanent?
<3> perm
<2> If you are sure you want it to be permanent then it is a good idea to make that fstab entry.
<3> okay
<2> Do you know where you want to mount the device? Possibly /mnt/ntfs or /mnt/windows?
<3> what about /media/hda5?
<0> /media is usually used for removable media
<2> Do you want all users on the system to be able to read the NTFS drive after it is mounted, or only your user or root?
<0> Such as cd-roms or flash cards/
<3> xarius: roger that p3nguin: all users
<2> Do you want the NTFS drive to be mounted automatically at boot time or only after you tell it to be mounted?
<3> autmatically preferably
<2> Okay, let me compute this information and see about making an appropriate fstab entry.
<3> thank you
<2> Become root with the switch user "su" command.
<3> done
<2> Open /etc/fstab in your favorite text editor, such as vim, pico, or joe.
<3> okay
<3> in with pico
<2> Add the following line in the fstab.
<2> /dev/hda5 /media/hda5 ntfs iocharset=utf8,umask=0222 1 0
<2> Save the file and exit the editor.
<3> u mean create a new line?
<2> Yes, on a new line.
<5> /msg NickServ@services.dal.net ACC tyrael
<5> ooops...
<3> done
<2> Still as root, run the following command to create the mount point: mkdir -p /media/hda5
<3> done
<2> Still as root, run the following command to mount the device according to the entry we just made in the fstab:
<2> mount /dev/hda5
<3> okay
<2> Exit from root and read the NTFS filesystem as your regular user.
<3> You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "hda5".
<3> -_- ???
<2> Were there any other errors or warnings during any of the other commands?
<3> not at all
<2> Let's check the mtab to see if it mounted with the proper umask. Run this command: mount|grep hda5
<3> hoboturtle@ubuntu:~$ mount|grep hda5
<3> /dev/hda5 on /media/hda5 type ntfs (rw)
<6> Shalom everyone. Whats the kernel header file name for 2.6.16-1.2133_FC5smp (not the plain, the SMP, i need it for VMware)
<2> Did you remove every other entry in the fstab for that device?
<3> no
<3> whatever it was there i left it
<3> i just created another line
<2> Remove all other entries in the fstab pertaining to hda5 and leave only the new one we just put in.
<3> okay
<2> su to root before opening the editor. ;)
<3> /dev/hda5 /media/hda5 ntfs defaults 0 0
<3> <--that line right?
<2> Remove that one.
<3> k done
<2> After you remove the other conflicting lines, save and exit.
<2> Then we have to remount it. Use this command as root: mount -o remount /dev/hda5
<3> root@ubuntu:/home/hoboturtle# mount -o remount /dev/hda5
<3> mount: /media/hda5 not mounted already, or bad option
<2> Okay, do it in two steps. umount /dev/hda5
<2> Then mount /dev/hda5
<3> done and done
<2> Before we exit from root, let's check the mtab again to make sure it is mounted right. mount|grep hda5
<3> root@ubuntu:/home/hoboturtle# mount|grep hda5
<3> /dev/hda5 on /media/hda5 type ntfs (rw,iocharset=utf8,umask=0222)
<2> Now you can exit from root and read the NTFS as your user.
<3> wooohooo
<3> its works!
<3> thank you soo much
<3> i appreciate it veeeery
<3> ive been trying to learn ubuntu for months
<3> and i still havent figured this out
<2> I see that by default your system made that partition rw instead of ro. We can change that by modifying the fstab entry in you want to do so.
<3> oh btw.. are u familiar with scim?
<3> eh...nvm ill figure that out
<3> thank you very much for helping me
<2> To correct that little problem, simply become root again, open the fstab in the editor and add "ro" to the options to make it read like this: /dev/hda5 /media/hda5 ntfs iocharset=utf8,umask=0222,ro 1 0
<3> rw and ro?
<2> I use a 2.4 kernel so ro is default for me.
<2> rw is read/write ro is read-only
<3> what's the difference between those two?
<3> ohh
<2> With a umask of 0222 I don't think you can write to it, but I think it would be better to be safe than to be sorry.
<3> :)
<2> You only have to add ro to the options in the fstab entry to fix it.
<3> i did
<3> things look the same tho
<3> :)
<2> I would go ahead and umount /dev/hda5 then mount /dev/hda5 again.
<3> okay
<2> That way when you check it with the mount command it will show /dev/hda5 on /media/hda5 type ntfs (ro,iocharset=utf8,umask=0222)
<2> You would be really unhappy to accidently damage the NTFS with Linux writing to it.
<3> that's exactly what it looks like
<2> Now it will mount that for you next time you boot up.
<3> its automatically mounted on every boot?
<2> Yes.
<3> awesome!
<2> If you wanted to keep it from automatically mounting it for you at boot time, you would have to also add "noauto" in the options in the fstab.
<2> noauto means not automatic.
<3> :)
<2> All this information is in the man page for mount and fstab.
<3> i see
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