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<0> or the README
<1> pop: You are aware that I know a great many things other than bind?
<2> Of course.
<3> jblack When I tried to pico makefile It doesn't got anything In.
<4> Paul2: What odd version of mail is that?
<3> OK Lucien
<2> I would, had I the money, have you teach me all you know -- I in turn would teach you all I knmow about brewing and beer.
<1> paul2: check the mainpage.
<1> whythehell: He's using mail on some non-linux system, and thinks we can't tell the difference. :)
<4> Hmmm, but mail is BSD anyway, isn't it?
<1> nibble: Here's a good time for you to hop in with a call to "can't we all be the same?"
<0> heh
<5> jblack, which main page are you talking about
<1> Paul2: the man page. "man mail"
<5> I was just about to say that
<1> Then why did you ask me?
<1> You could have saved me an iota of blood sugar if I hadn't had to rub together at least a dozen neurons to answer.
<1> You owe me man. Get thyself to ebay and fedex me a lollypop
<5> jblack, are you talking to me?
<1> I ain't talking to Jesus.
<0> hehe
<0> well, its a "think before you ask" situation
<1> I am a strong proponent for "make thinking before doing a habit"
<1> I am a soldier for the cause of thoughtful people everywhere.
<1> Here's a thought : quantum physics == No fate
<5> this is the mail, I am using http://www.scit.wlv.ac.uk/cgi-bin/mansec?1+mail
<6> :D Good morning everyone.
<6> 9:52
<1> paul, I don't know what operating system that mail is for, but its not linux.
<1> You came to the wrong place.
<5> solaris
<1> Yeah. Solaris. I see it lower down.
<6> Well time to go, have a good time guys ;)
<1> get or write another mail.
<7> I don't understand... why do SO MANY people come to #linux looking for help with solaris and *BSD?
<5> because
<1> Because solaris and bsd are dying, and they can't staff the support that we can.
<5> they are new to linux/unix
<7> so why #linux instead of #solaris or #freebsd #openbsd #netbsd ?
<1> they're so desperate for help, they they either don't consider (or don't care) that we want solaris to die off.
<5> solaris you have to pay for it
<1> paul2: Get the gnu mailx package. It'll be in the solaris packages.
<5> linux is free
<0> Paul2: no. solaris is free..
<1> In the gnu section. Its on a website somewhere.
<7> sunfreeware, probably.
<1> lucien: No, solaris is not free. Its no cost. Important distinction.
<1> simmy: Aye. Thats the one.
<8> 2s
<0> jblack: it was mostly in answer to < Paul2> solaris you have to pay for it
<7> My point is... People generally don't roll into a Ford dealership and ask for help with their Chevy. Why do people do that here?
<0> and solaris is getting free.. :) (www.opensolaris.org)
<5> I am not using solaris at home
<5> I am using solaris at university
<1> simmy: They might try if the chevy dealers were trying to limit runoffs by swearing "We can avoid those m***ive layoffs that are coming"
<5> I don't know much out solaris or linux
<1> aul2: Surely you know enough about solaris to know its not Linux.
<0> simmy: true, that. its probably because people either think that linux people are easy to ask questions of, or that they dont see any real distinction between linux and $foo
<1> You're not daft, right?
<5> I have been told, linux is distributed freely, and solaris you pay for the operating system
<1> Paul2: We _dont care_ about solaris here. :)
<0> Paul2: that was the situation 8 or more years ago.
<1> In fact, tell you waht. Anybody that wants to help you with solaris will meet you in #solaris presently. :)
<5> jblack, I don't care either
<5> it seems solaris people are sleeping in that room
<0> its the way things are for that OS ;)
<1> Paul2: Then I guess that there's nobody awake that wants to help you.
<0> Paul2: this might help you:
<0> "You can also join the conversation via IRC on irc.freenode.net #opensolaris."
<1> I suggest you bear the support quality in mind the next time you install an operating system!
<1> Anybody have a job in their back pocket that they'd like to give me?
<9> jblack, yeah, install an OS where the people are putting more time working on it and less time on supporting people on irc :>
<1> six: I think that if the OS' adoption is so small that its an either/or question, that it may not be appropriate for anyone well prepared to support themselves.
<9> you mean not well prepared?
<9> but yeah
<1> Yes.
<9> i agree if you meant not well prepared :)
<1> That's what I meant.
<9> that being said, i don't think linux is appropriate for people who are not interested in at least trying to figure out things by themselves
<9> +either
<1> I agree with you. It seems that most other people disagree with us.
<1> We live in a world of handholding
<9> i don't really care if others want to breastfeed people
<9> it's the "oh my god you're not helping me, you're bad pr for the linux community" attitude that does my head in.
<1> I wouldn't make you. I don't appreciate a ircop trolling our efforts to help others though.
<1> everone else: If I get akilled, it was nice knowing you.
<10> six one important Q at all why peoples ask for money when we ask then to help US !
<10> jblack six is just a local oper
<9> i don't see what being an ircop has to do with trolling or not
<10> u dont have any need to afraid of him :/
<11> jblack, do you really think having a different opinion is an akillable offense?
<9> that's like saying "I don't appreciate someone who works for national railways ..."
<9> it's just as relevant
<0> six: well, they *are* bastards
<0> :)
<10> lol
<10> well i m not afraid of any oper
<9> besides, when have i been *trolling*?
<10> coooz they are one of my friends at all
<9> morph, i'm not afraid of any dentist
<9> your point?
<10> lol
<11> I am
<11> sadists.. the whole lot of them
<1> kevin: I think it shouldn't be. But if an ircop is willing to drop to a lower enough standard to troll, isn't it also possible for them to drop to a low enough standard to wield power in an official capacity in a personal one?
<10> jblack ur account detail ?
<1> Anyways, I'll be back later.
<10> how much u need just notice me
<9> i think someone's brain just came to ca complete halt
<0> six: i do agree with you though. the "linux is hard, and noone wants to help me" argument looses validity when the person complaining doesnt make an effort
<10> jblack tyt
<9> especially when i don't remember trolling
<10> six dont use /part :)
<10> Lucien there are enough handbooks
<10> but u cant get trained else u try ur self
<10> :)
<0> morph: which is what i said.
<9> funnily enough, what jblack himself said was an apparent troll
<10> yup
<7> many people coming in here don't want to be trained. They want us to tell them what buttons to press/click to make their stuff work.
<0> "before complaining that no one wants to help you, make sure that you try to help yourself first"
<9> talking about irrelevancies and lower standards
<10> u will get some diff in the start
<10> once u got they way
<10> u will get more and more .....
<10> they will just get money for just telling u the way
<10> :)
<0> morph: can you replace the u with you?
<0> ik makes it annoying to read otherwise
<0> :)
<10> yeh
<0> simmy: what button do i have to press to make this work?
<0> plz?kthnx!
<7> Try the /disco commmand in your IRC client. I hear it'll make everything have lots of pretty colors and you'll completely forget about the issue you're having.
<7> Lucien ^^^
<7> (sorry.. forgot to focus that one)
<9> simmy, oh my god i can't believe a CHANNEL OP is trolling here and telling people to DISCONNECT FROM IRC
<9> what a LOW STANDARD!
<0> (notice i dont tell you what im working on, or what teh problem is. also, notice i dont mention google in any way form or shape.)
<7> Lucien : Which is why I couldn't give you any specific instructions on how to fix your problem. ;)
<0> six: it helps that the person being trolled is also a channelop
<0> :D
<9> lucien, well since when has it been important to stick to relevancies?
<9> the founder doesn't seem t obother
<0> six: well, the founder speak for all of us, and we dont speak for him. which is why the channel isnt populated with clones :)
<11> and now for something completely different.. anyone know anything about transmissions? If so, feel free to msg me.
<0> eerr
<12> hey all
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