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<f4t4l`> Lindows?
<f4t4l`> Is that lke Linux and windows?
<f4t4l`> LAWL
<B0L0> forgot the name....
<f4t4l`> ROFL
<B0L0> linspire...
<f4t4l`> I heard that was good
<f4t4l`> is it?
<Cancel> open source != free binary
<Cancel> free as in beer the saying goes
<Cancel> and for redhats free you get fedora
<f4t4l`> :]
<B0L0> I installed it on a bros computer don't have much experience...he just told me he needed a reformat after 4 months
<Cancel> never had to reformar
<f4t4l`> =[
<Cancel> my current fc5 started out as rh9 gone through evry upgrade
<Cancel> heck never had to reformat any *nix
<f4t4l`> Is Ubuntu all free?
<Cancel> nothing about nix requires reformatting
<f4t4l`> is it bad for your HDD to keep reformatting?
<B0L0> reinstalling
<B0L0> ie
<jblack> f4tl: There's parts of it that are nonfree. It comes with various proprietary pieces like firmware, nvidia drivers, etc
<f4t4l`> Hmmm
<f4t4l`> Would it be bead if i....
<f4t4l`> bad*
<Cancel> f4t4l`: why would your hd care?
<f4t4l`> Installed Linux, didnt like it, and reinstalled Windows?
<Cancel> f4t4l`: why would your hd care?
<jblack> f4tl: its your computer. Do what you like
<f4t4l`> You dont understand
<f4t4l`> I dont like my computer being fuxxored
<f4t4l`> thats why im asking
<f4t4l`> i dotn wanna do anything thats gonna harm it
<Cancel> turning it on harms it then
<f4t4l`> because im poor and cant afford a new one..
<f4t4l`> Does it?
<jblack> As long as you have a legit copy of windows, you should be able to get back.
<f4t4l`> ROFL, its on 24/7
<f4t4l`> But i dont...
<f4t4l`> ROFL
<jblack> Hoever, if you don't have one, then you're looking at a $200 bill to buy a fresh copy of xp.
<f4t4l`> ROFL
<f4t4l`> No need.
<f4t4l`> I got a Legit key
<f4t4l`> Legit/non legit
<jblack> Do you still have the install media...
<f4t4l`> its detected as legit though...
<f4t4l`> What?
<f4t4l`> :[
<Cancel> install linuxx
<Cancel> do it now
<f4t4l`> Now?
<f4t4l`> Now now?
<f4t4l`> Why?
<Cancel> ok dont
<f4t4l`> Im just asking why
<f4t4l`> are the setups easy to comprehend?
<f4t4l`> I wanna install now
<f4t4l`> tell me
<f4t4l`> :]
<simmy> http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/77ba/
<f4t4l`> ummm?
<jblack> hey simmy
<hetchx> anyone, want to send mail via /bin/mail but seems it is configured to use local mta. i wonder if sendmail.postfix could be tweaked to relay mail to a remote mta server without running local postmaster?
<Cancel> your local sendmail can relay
<Cancel> honestly though use postfix
<Cancel> using sendmail is like using a backhoe to plant lilies in your garden
<jblack> hetchx: I told you a long time ago. Just get a mail client in which you can specify the smtp server.
<Cancel> i always say if you cant partially understand the .mc files you shouldnt be using sendmail to begin with
<jblack> Thunderbird does it, so does e... e.. that gnome one
<f4t4l`> There is no Ubuntu support number?
<f4t4l`> how retarded.
<evil-dna> yes you are
<f4t4l`> Where is it then?
<hetchx> jblack: sorry, i wasnt reading
<hetchx> cancel: thanks
<jblack> epiphany
<Cancel> hetchx: or learn to specify it with mail
<ep|phany> hey jblack
<jblack> Not you. The mal client
<jblack> How long have you been waiting for that?
<ep|phany> :|
<hetchx> cancel: don't have documentation as to how sendmail.postfix be able to relay remote MTA. could you please direct me to any related website. thanks
<jblack> The science channel is to science as velveeta is to cheese
<Cancel> hetchx: no as I just told you that if you cant at least partially understand the sendmail config files you shouldnt be using it and I also told you sendmail is like digging for your lilies with a backhoe
<hetchx> cancel, im using postfix. anyway, thanks.
<Cancel> well then read the conf file
<Cancel> it is commented and tells you where to put the relay server
<Cancel> and if you have postfix why ask about sendmail
<jblack> hetchx: Ok. You've put up with enough. Look at the relayhost option
<jblack> In /etc/postfix.main.cf
<jblack> Though I still suggest that you just change mua's.
<hetchx> jblack: actually, here's the scenarion: i already have a working mta (postfix) server installed in a separate computer. our monitoring system, which in a separate computer, has to send an e-mail using our local mta, which i mentioned earlier, via /bin/mail. unfortunately, /bin/mail can't send e-mail from our monitoring system because there are no local mta in our monitoring system. now, what i want is to make use of any tool (MUA/MDA) that can relay/send mail
<Cancel> hetchx: whats your monitoring system
<hetchx> cancel, fc5 linux
<Cancel> yes using any mua is nto a option as most folks using mail are doing it programaticaly which is why mail is used in the first place
<Cancel> hetchx: no the montiring system ie nagios, orion, etc
<hetchx> cancel: this monitoring system just reads router's logs via snmp.
<jblack> hetchx: Ahh. GOtcha. How about using a port forward tool like redir?
<hetchx> cancel: i really dont want to install a separate postfix server within our monitoring system, just to send system logs via e-mail. just want to save computer resources.
<jblack> You could port forward 25 on localhost to port 25 on some other machine. :)
<Cancel> hetchx: whats your monitoring system
<sire_jokool> hi pls someone help on worm.somefool.p
<hetchx> cancel: is just a linux where i put some home-made scripts that reads our cisco 2600 logs, iptables logs (from separate servers), and etc. basically, just a simple monitoring system.
<Cancel> hetchx: so some homebrew thing
<jblack> hetchx: Did you catch the port forwarding suggestion?
<sire_jokool> spam+amavisd on log got this
<hetchx> jblack: yes, i've been thinking of using port redirection, but if there's a way that we could specify MUAs to send email other the localhost MTA, then i prefer that style.
<jblack> hetchx: I do that for some of my virtual farm.
<Cancel> hetchx: i think you can --sendmail-options
<hetchx> jblack: i'll try googling that topic. never been into that.
<Cancel> hetchx: dont ask me for the syntax on that though
<jblack> hetchx: Have it right here.
<jblack> in /etc/inetd.conf:
<hetchx> cancel: yes, i guess we could do that.
<jblack> 25 stream tcp nowait root /usr/bin/redir --inetd --cport 25 --caddr=TARGETHOST
<hetchx> jblack: i'll look into that.
<jblack> hetchx: I use that for a few virtual machines here
<sire_jokool> oh correction its CLAMAV log that does it
<sire_jokool> pls help me on WormFool.P
<sire_jokool> mail log file always says detected Worm.Fool.P
<jblack> hetchx: That'll use the mailserver on TARGETHOST to send all mail.
<jblack> btw, when I say all, I really mean all. :)
<hetchx> jblack: don't have that /bin/inetd.conf. you are using what linux distro? im on fc5.
<jblack> The file is actually /etc/inetd.conf
<sire_jokool> im on FC4
<jblack> Its a configuration file for traditional inetd. Its not a binary.
<sire_jokool> so i have to romve inetd.conf
<jblack> sire_jokool: I'm talking to hetchx yet.
<hetchx> jblack: yes, i know that. i think i wasn't able to add inetd in my previous installation.
<hetchx> jblack: by the way, what's that /usr/bin/redir? your own script?
<trill> i have http services up and running.. when i go to my webpage the page just says Page Not Found. how do i change what my page says and make an actually webpage for people to look at?
<hetchx> cancel: thanks for your response earlier.
<Cancel> no prob
<jblack> hetchx: redir is a program. Theres probably a package for you somewhere. You can look up info for it at freshmeat.net
<jblack> And regarding inetd, you almost certainly have either inetd or a replacement (such as xinetd)
<hetchx> jblack: yes, its xinetd.
<jblack> Ok. You'll have to translate the inetd line I gave you to xinetd.
<hetchx> trill: is your /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf or relative file has this line: "DirectoryIndex index.php index.html"?
<trill> hold on ill see
<hetchx> jblack: perhaps, i'll have to create /etc/xinetd/smtp file to store this line: "25 stream tcp nowait root /usr/bin/redir --inetd --cport 25 --caddr=TARGETHOST"
<trill> hetchx: is there a FIND command in pico?
<jblack> No idea. I don't know xinetd's syntax
<hetchx> trill: use vi instead. for me, its a lot easier than pico
<trill> ok hold on
<hetchx> jblack: thanks.
<trill> now does vi have a FIND command for it?
<trill> im in it
<jblack> vi does.
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