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<0> dialup modem has firmware?
<0> need manual for dlink dmf-560/e modem
<1> http://www.dlink.com.au/Products.aspx?Sec=1&Sub1=3&Sub2=7&PID=70
<0> what the smoothwall web server port
<0> anyone
<2> 81
<0> what does this means
<0> Tunnelling VNC over SSH with PuTTY
<3> it means if you join, ask a question, then immediately leave, no one will ever help you again. especially if the question can be pasted into google.
<0> lol
<2> systick try here .. http://www.rcdrummond.net/articles/view.php?num=3
<2> google has everythingz .. you just give it a try
<0> ban the schools/colleges/universities
<2> and who care for skool/collegez n uniz now
<2> lol
<2> google da best ever
<0> wolf cares
<0> lol
<0> help if you want to else dont speak
<0> dont know wht ppl like to spoil others mood
<4> im using ubuntu 7.4
<3> syskey: good question. stop spoiling others' moods by ansking googlable questions, misspelling every third word, leaving before people have time to answer, not thanking the people that do help, and generally being a pest.
<4> partai
<3> if you ask questions that would be answered by pasting the question into google's search box and looking at the first result, do not expect help.
<3> as an example, if you enter "what the smoothwall web server port" (no quotes) into google's search box, and click "search", not only does the first result answer your question, the summary google gives contains the answer, so you don't even need to go to the site.
<3> and when people do help you, you either leave, or never respond. being a thankless ingrate, especially after someone wasted their time answering something you should have googled, also does not get you further help.
<3> any questions?
<0> yo
<0> what will you take to quit
<0> I am not intersted in talking to you
<0> from now onwards
<3> then maybe you should find another channel to ask questions in, as you're not likely to get any answers here.
<0> ok
<0> I do have other places for help
<5> i dont come for help
<5> i come to read maybe someday something usefull will be said
<0> I come to learn from other's queries
<5> what u wanna learn?
<0> obvisoulsy realted to channel topic
<3> syskey: ok, your first channel education. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html <== go read that.
<5> lol
<5> lucky me i got books :p
<0> have you p***ed that exam
<0> loooooool
<0> what a crap
<0> bbl
<5> ciao
<0> I forgot toadd update my irc fav list
<6> tomorrow, fine with sea breezes
<0> that depends
<5> have no book for this system damn
<5> now i must google all time and hurting eyes :p
<4> hi
<7> hi
<4> im currently downloading the x files with synaptec dl manager will this do a complete installation of x.org?
<7> you, possibly. what package did you choose in sunaptic?
<7> *yes
<4> several. all the x.org files
<7> desktop environments are also nice
<7> if you choose, say, "gnome" it should pull in x.org as a dependency automatically
<4> ?
<4> ok well it downloaded and installed but i see no noticeable difference whatsoever
<7> it installed :P copied some iles in the right places
<7> it doesn't run anything without your command
<7> so no difference is expected
<4> i thought x.org was a window manager. shouldnt it replace gnome?
<7> hmmm, no
<7> 1. just installing wouldn't do anything
<7> synaptic just installs, doesn't run the X or anything, you have to run it to use it
<4> would you mind guiding me a through this balrog-kun ?
<7> 2. synaptic doesn't replace anything if you don't tell it to
<7> 3. x.org is not a window manager and gnome is not a window manager either
<7> gnome is based on X, gnome needs X, they do different things
<4> ubuntu comes with some xorg functionality (atleast ubuntu 7.4 does) that allows you to install xorg server
<7> if you're using gnome then you're using X too
<7> all ubuntu's come with x.org :p
<7> X was invented in '82 and since then practically anything comes with X
<4> could you please guide me through launching x?
<7> "startx" launches X
<7> provided X is configured properly, which is not always easy and i would prefer to not guide through configuring X, rather use a howto
<4> ok then how do i close gnome without losing the terminal so it will let me run x?
<7> ah, you're in gnome now?
<4> yeah
<7> then you are in X
<7> X is running
<4> ic
<7> X is like the base for all graphic envinroments
<4> so my os is ready for me to install compiz straight away?
<7> gnome, KDE, and other, use X internally
<8> javac no cl*** deffinition found java.object
<7> oh, i don't know, you need a graphics accelerator for compiz afaik
<4> oh no that's right compiz works with something called metacity or something like that....are you familiar with it?
<8> any guesses
<7> i haven't tried compiz because my machine is slow
<8> anybody?
<7> yes, metacity is also a part of gnome
<7> rrobert: #java
<8> yaaa
<8> ok
<7> you messed some paths
<8> bbye
<4> is it true that compiz only works with certain video cards?
<9> SirOSOriS: compiz will work with any video card, Xgl won't
<4> is xgl one of compiz's cometetors?
<4> or does compiz use xgl?
<7> compiz uses xgl
<7> xgl is the part of X that provide 3d acceleration
<4> is compiz a competitor of gnome and kde's?
<4> or will compiz still run gnome apps?
<7> it should integrate with gnome,
<7> ...i think
<9> true :)
<7> but yeah, basically gnome apps will run, gnome is not required for gnome apps, even kde runs them
<9> SirOSOriS: you see the windows borders in gnome right, and the top line with minimize, maximize and close buttons
<9> SirOSOriS: that's metacity, compiz is a replacement for metacity
<4> doesnt compiz use metacity?
<10> hello, i am a beginner with linux, i want a linux os that has all your applications to connect to the net,ect, so i am looking for a good desktop linux os...any ideas?
<9> Damo: sure, ubuntu :)
<11> I'm preparing my laptop for kubuntu now :)
<10> any other suggestions..? ubuntu doesnt like my pc it failes to fully load up
<10> kubuntu?
<10> whats that like?
<11> ubuntu with KDE rather than gnome, will probably fail to load too if ubuntu does
<4> it will fail to install aswell
<11> you should make it load rather than looking for alternatives
<11> what happens exactly?
<10> okay
<4> huh?
<10> welll it was along time ago mate i forget i dont realy know, all i know is that at the end of loading it failed
<10> i have always used gnome
<11> try it again then
<10> ok
<11> it's all personal preference, I can't stand it myself
<10> haha yeah
<10> im using windows atm and i want to have windows and linux on my system dual boot or somthing use call it? do use reccomend it?
<11> dual boot is silly imo .. I pick an OS and use it exclusively
<4> yes good point epinephrine
<10> i know what u mean i just wanna test run some os`s....would u reccomend me using the boot from cd linux cds?
<11> gonna take a hdd image of my laptop which has windows on atm and wipe the whole thing, install linux
<11> the livecd?
<10> yea
<11> they are good for getting a feel for the distro, but you can't tweak it much .. like making hardware work that doesn't work out of the box
<10> okay
<7> it's a good day for hacking gcc
<8> how i can take a screen shot in fc5
<4> how do i execute a binary?
<4> it's a driver
<4> ?
<9> SirOSOriS: what does `file your_executable' say?
<4> command not found
<4> i tried sh but it said it couldnt open the file and that it's possibly a binary file
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