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<0> hi!welcome me naman im a beginner eh!
<0> and actually im not a man im a woman
<1> don't tell the geeks in hete that
<1> s/hete/here
<2> oh really
<2> so ur a new bie ___linux
<3> yep, that'd be me.
<1> ArSlaN__: do you have an unhealthy obsession with underscores?
<2> nops man___:)
<2> mohua___@_@
<3> hahahah
<3> nops __ he says
<4> Any Linux MAster there ?
<4> Any linux MAster there ? Lucent win Modem Driver For Linux 9.0 ???????????????
<5> is linux better then windows



<4> Help me please
<6> windows is sophisticated
<6> both have their strengths and weaknesses
<6> i turned my brain off
<7> is there someway to detect what encryption a string has?
<1> GlenneMannen2: what are you trying to crack?
<7> mohua: an encrypted query string
<7> mohua: I just want to know with what method it's encrypted
<6> .
<6> might be possible
<6> but if it's a good cipher, no.
<7> Mulder_: I can pm the string to you
<6> no thanks
<7> ok
<7> I think it's using a simple encryption
<7> I google for examples of encryptions so that I can compare and perhaps figure out what they used
<6> that's the wrong way to go about it
<6> what youwant to do is fidn out the specifications for containers
<6> what header/tail information the specification has
<6> and common container form of the data
<6> and lastly but doubtfully, any successful cryptoanalysis data on the cipher
<7> huh? its a link that uses like apa.php?s_uri=S2afdDAz//=
<6> paste the string if it's not long
<6> and i hope your'e not doing anything illegal
<7> not doing anything illegal
<7> just curius to see what encryption... cause they didn't have it encrypted before
<6> paste the string
<7> it's long
<6> print the first 20characters folloewd by ... then the last 20 characters
<7> eAFtUV1PwjAU/Su1PqAP.........a05Vgkl1RdaJ5x8DlLbN
<6> give me the number of characters in that string
<7> 496
<6> ok
<6> i think it's base64 encoded
<7> also the page runs php..
<6> i forget the specifications
<6> or maybe it's not
<6> i cant remember the specs for base64
<7> I already checked the base64 dont seem to be it..
<7> http://se2.php.net/manual/sv/function.base64-encode.php
<6> i dont want a funtion iwant a spec
<6> i wrote a base64 encoder/decoder once
<6> i just have forgotten the specs
<7> nice... I dont even know what the specs can be located
<6> \you need to learn the value of google then
<6> i jsut cant remember about upper/lower case
<8> I'm using ncftp, doing mget -R * but it misses some dirs, can anyone recommend me another program that will retreive a full directory structure?
<6> ok it could be base64
<6> and here's whati think has happened'
<6> they encoded with a cipher, then they did base64 to make it ascii for transmission
<6> you need to decode the base64, and work with the binary data you end up with to do the crpytoanalysis on
<7> ok,, then I go and look for a base64 decoder
<6> uuencode
<6> uudecode
<9> anyone here familer with Topologilinux, or Knoppix?
<6> there's a chance it's not base64 but it certainly loos like it to me
<6> as long as there's no = in the middle of the string
<6> = is only used on the end of the string in base64
<7> Mulder_: I got another string ending with ==
<6> yes



<6> that's another tell tale sign
<6> = is the padding character
<9> Anyone know if i can load knoppix using alcohol 120% from within windows
<7> Mulder_: padding?
<6> the telltale signs of base64. "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789+/" are possible characters used. then '=' is used to pad.
<6> base64 also comes in chunks of 4 bytes
<6> if it's not a multiple of 4, it's usually padded so that it is
<7> okok.. like a filling char?
<6> that 496 byte string you gave is a multiple of 4, that's why = is not on the end
<6> yes filler = pad
<7> Mulder_: you are good.. I see it now when I compare the lengths
<6> but once you decode, there's where the real fun starts
<6> it's incredibly hard to figure out a particular cipher without header info
<6> because a good cipher by definition will make things look random
<6> however, in saying that, there are sometimes telltale signs
<6> and that's where hitting something like mathscinet for cryptography journal articles helps
<7> Mulder_: ok.. but I think they use something that is either my ip or something else.. cause they arent that smart :)
<6> or google
<6> you also have to watch out for compression
<6> it's not uncommon to encrypt(compress+pad) then base64 that
<6> also
<6> it could be a hash
<6> in which case, you're not going to read the contents
<6> heh
<6> because hashes lose information
<6> and if you're talkig websites, it's not uncommon for them to use a hash
<7> ok
<6> server sends browser a challenge with time specific tokens, user uses the token and p***word to generate a hash, sends hash over (so that no p***word details are sent), server checks hash for integrity. if it's good, you're logged in
<6> and if they're tricky, they'll encrypt the session with ssl/tls before that even happens
<6> liike banks do
<6> and really amazon should do
<7> if I print out binary information as ascii would it look like this: Q[k0+Y ?
<6> it might
<7> ok just checking
<7> found ot the first 12 chars
<7> out
<10> can anyone tell me how to (exactly) change the color of my font in this chat
<10> I'm using x-chat from the gnome desktop fc4 os
<11> click settings/prefferences/colors
<1> not like you need to be a rocket scientist to work that out
<11> =)
<10> see i'm doing this and all i end up with is this baland grey output
<10> it will not change smart ***
<10> that is why i was asking
<1> haha
<1> i think he liked me
<12> what is a database prefix?
<13> I run mii-tool, but it tells me it cant find any MII interfaces. How would i then change the speed/duplex?
<13> This is Knoppix.
<13> Vmware P2V boot cd to be exact.
<14> hi guys is there any guy who interviewed in goog for Sys Admin position?
<14> google
<7> mohua: if I found out 2 links that go to the same page.. one w/o encrypt and one with.. what is the easiest way to figure out the encryption?
<13> http://www.vmware.com/support/p2v21/doc/p2v21_releasenotes.html
<15> any body wana help me ? I have a problem in my Linux Suse 9.2
<16> Mujtaba - Why dont you state your problem, and then see if someone can help you? Bah.
<15> when i give the p***word to Logon it restarts and p***word box appear again
<15> i mean every thing is OKe but i do not Log on
<15> P***word is 100% Oke
<15> ?
<15> jpotex
<16> A clarification; I did not say that I can help you.
<15> :)
<16> I just said that its better if you state your problem instead of asking if someone want to help you.
<15> ok
<15> but here is no responce
<16> With my very limited knowledge it still looks like an incorrect p***word. But as it isnt - according to you - I dont know.
<15> where i should go Now
<16> Well, you could try the Freenode network and the suse-channel there.
<15> ok
<15> thankz


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