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<0> that prozac based **** makes you feel the life worth something
<1> i am taking celexa, and paxil
<1> haven't tried prozac yet
<0> and you still want to die?
<1> yes
<2> Im taking strong caffine and nicotine :) doesnt help much though
<0> those are SSRIs right?
<1> yes
<0> maybe you still need to try some SSNRI
<3> az?
<0> Azerbaijan
<3> uh oh
<0> **** Calidan, I so need a cig now
<0> I'm just too lazy to go buy
<2> LunaticCalm: heh :)



<2> Asad-: lol no they are MY PRECIOUS :)
<2> lol
<0> Camel owns
<0> that's what I smoke
<0> they're so addictive
<4> lol not more then me calidan ;p
<2> cigars own, cigs have way too many chemicals in them
<0> when you get used to them it's nearly impossible to switch to something else
<0> what do you smoke Calidan ?
<2> dont get me wrong, I smoke cigs
<0> lol, be serious
<2> but enjoy a nice 1/2 corona about every 6mnths
<2> LunaticCalm: what do I smoke? .. holiday brand 16's (cig), pennink (cigars) and WEEEEDz when I can get it
<5> hey
<0> I can't smoke weed atm
<0> because of the army
<2> LunaticCalm: me either - have none and no $
<0> if they cought me I'm dead men
<2> camel IS nice though
<5> You need to recompile the kernel/modules <-- does that mean "make && make_modules" ??
<0> which version is that WorKL ?
<5> Gentoo
<0> make modules still exists?
<5> 2.6.15-1
<0> it's been so long since the last time I compiled a kernel 'not-the-debian-way'
<5> oh
<5> what is the debian way? (I also run a debian box)
<0> sudo apt-get install fakeroot kernel-package
<0> cd into/the/kernel/src/dir
<0> make menuconfig
<0> make-kpkg clean
<0> make-kpkg --revision=some.version kernel_image
<5> ahh
<0> err
<0> fakeroot make-kpkg --revision=some.version kernel_image
<0> that is
<0> sudo dpkg -i ../your.kernel.package.deb
<0> IIRC
<0> and of course, reboot
<2> and hope like hell it worked and you werent silly enough to replace the working kernal with a new one before testing it ;)
<0> Debian makes the symlinks of /vmlinuz and /vmlinuz.old, so I guess that you don't need to edit your bootloader's configuration
<0> but check them just to make sure
<5> Recompile and install the the kernel/modules (replace %VERSION% with your kernel version):
<5> make clean && make && make modules && make modules_install
<5> cp .config /boot/config-%VERSION%
<5> cp System.map /boot/System.map-%VERSION%
<5> cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/kernel-%VERSION%
<0> no Calidan
<5> does that make sense then? for Gentoo?
<0> Debian makes a symlink to the old version in /vmlinuz.old and adds it to the bootloader
<0> so if it doesnt work, you still have a backup
<5> thats cool
<2> LunaticCalm: I dont know how deb handles kernels - but Ive seen many sys admins do it :) indiots
<5> (I am gunna need that feature) ;)
<2> LunaticCalm: yeah thats the way it should be done
<0> indeed
<0> that what I used to do in other distros



<0> but now I'm so addicted to debian and debian-based
<2> me also - add a new kernel, just add a new boot option so if its skrewed you can at least still boot using old kernel
<0> and well
<0> that's why I like GRUB SO much
<0> even if you forget, you still have the grub command line option
<0> so you can boot the old kernel manually
<2> nod
<0> only if you're dumb enough to delete the old kernel, you're ****ed up
<2> heh - yeah
<1> you can always use a livecd and use the chroot process
<0> that's too much work
<2> lol
<0> I have a server running tftpd and nfs for that anyway
<0> so I boot from network, for a recovery process
<0> but again, too much work
<1> i use re-format and re-install everything
<0> what will make you stupid enough to delete the old kernel anyway?
<1> :)
<0> you'd MUST be stoned as hell to do that
<6> cocaine.
<7> yeah, when he's stoned, the std in his stderr stands for "stupid"
<1> you dont precisely have to be dumb, but unexperienced
<0> even if it's a space-related thing, you *still* can wait for the new kernel to boot before deleting the old one
<2> or just dumb - like I said - Ive seen too many sys admins do it :) you'd think of anyone THEY should know that, especially if you are admin for linux server farms
<1> lack of experience
<1> always make a backup when upgrading from source
<7> once they've burnt their fingerrs, they'll remember.
<0> gonna get some more coffee
<0> brb
<2> zeeble: not always - saw the same admin make the same mistake twice in 1 year
<7> lol
<1> he was probably really stoned
<7> maybe the employer needs to make sure he ain't an admin there for the 3rd time
<2> stderr: nah he didnt smoke - he did like a pint or two though - so could have been pissed
<7> :)
<2> heh
<1> but then again i am not a sysadmin, i dont want to go through the embarrasement
<1> i am just a nerd with a computer
<7> :)
<6> nerd = lvl 40 dungeon master
<6> geek = computer addict
<2> lol - arnt we all :)
<2> but I prefer the term geek personally
<2> and in my case :) hippy geek is an apt description
<1> crap, you got me
<2> Mulder: well said :)
<1> yeah, nerds are complete losers
<1> umm, i have lots of books laying around my room
<1> too lazy to pick them up and organize them neatly
<7> you need a girl. she'll rile at you long enough so you do it, or she'll stack them properly herself.
<1> hahah
<1> girls
<2> but then Ive also worked with admins who know their stuff VERY well .. just cant pick them unless you work with them mostly
<7> yeah.
<3> is /bin/env a part of bash?
<3> /bin/env: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
<1> i have dealt with some admins who still cant configure apache correctly
<2> stderr: sa - but very true
<2> s/sa/sad/
<1> slicers, yes
<1> built-in fuction for bash
<1> i think..
<7> slicers might be part of coreutils or shelll utils.
<1> shows your current enviroment variables
<4> Calidan any idea of email forwarding? I need a little info
<0> 02:43PM <1> hahah
<0> 02:43PM <1> girls
<0> 02:43PM * stderr/#linux sighs
<0> is he gay? <g>
<1> thats a silly ***umption
<0> it wasn't an ***umption
<0> just a joke


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