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<0> Kernel \r on an \m
<1> cancel: Ok. Well, now you know better than what the manual told you. So we won't see it again. :)
<0> Cognition: Fedora Core release 2 (Tettnang)
<0> Kernel \r on an \m
<2> ALi^-: download and install this -> ftp://ftp.pbone.net/mirror/rpm.greysector.net/apt/fc2/RPMS.stable/yum-2.0.8-1.fc2.noarch.rpm
<3> jblack: i stated nothing that wasnt in the manual anything p*** that is your own addition
<1> cancel: ANyways, thanks for clearing me up on the issue of redhat defaulting to slocate. That was good for me to know.
<4> ALi^-: you probably need to update that system asap
<3> I didi cite the manpage though
<1> Lets drop it.
<2> sigh
<1> Because if we continue this, you're not gonna like what you hear.
<3> yep +b
<2> it's impossible to have an argument with Cancel, it's just too painful :)
<4> eliran: you can put it in ~/.bashrc
<3> Cognition: you should be thankful I dont have paper manuals
<1> actually, I was going to go more with "you arrogant moron".
<3> I would hit you upside the head with them
<0> Cognition
<3> jblack: oh that doesnt bother me
<3> jblack: i've heard much worse
<4> he thrives on that i think
<2> Cancel: exactly, even if we ***ume you are correct, you don't have to be rude about it
<1> Oh. Ok. You're arrogant, and a moron. What fool takes a work written by people as gospel.
<0> where i have to download this
<0> in which directory
<3> Cognition: hey I can't help it I"m right so much ;)
<4> jblack: umm.. there is religion ;)
<2> ALi^-: anywhere, your home directory would be fine
<1> Um... hmmmm.
<2> Cancel: that is definitely arrogance
<5> religion is bollocks
<2> nobody is so right so much
<5> cheap excuse to gather people to fight other people
<1> What fool takes information from other people without being ready to question its judgement and be ready to admit that it could be wrong?
<5> and to gather money
<6> Belief != Truth (Mostly)
<4> jblack: Cancel is the equivalent of a biblethumper, and i think he is quite proud of it ;)
<4> which is in itself not a bad thing
<4> beats google search everytime
<1> can we please, please, please take this out of religious grounds? Its my fault. I'm sorry. I regret it.
<4> ok
<3> you all like to make it personal
<2> Cancel: whether you're right or wrong, there is no joy in talking to you about it. And we're not here to debate a Ph.D. thesis
<5> I also don't find it a bad thing neither
<2> Cancel: it IS personal. If you are rude, it is personal
<5> in my opinion the only thing with cancel.. he is grumpy :p
<5> thats all!
<1> Cognition: Thanks. Thats exactly where he gets into trouble
<3> cusco: you've yet to see my grumpy
<3> lets debate cancel
<5> nooo I hope not!
<5> for me I've seen enough
<3> lets make it personal this time
<2> Cancel: if i make a comment and you come bashing me and saying been there and done that .. this implies three things
<1> Sure. since you asked. You're accuracy rate ****s.
<2> 1) you are positive that you are absolutely right (bad thing)
<3> Cognition: if you say something can't be done and I have it in production I will call you on it
<2> 2) you belittle everyone around you (disrespectful)
<7> Thanks, but this means i have to login manually, right ?
<1> That's why you get corrected so often. You typically overgeneralize and end up disastrously wrong. :)
<3> Cognition: if you say can and the writers and manual and rest says can't I'll call you on it
<2> 3) you make everyone hate your advice and even if you have enough knowledge, i don't care to share it anymore
<3> sort of like this locate deal
<4> eliran: well, yeah. thats what a login is for
<3> i just cite the manual watch folks stew
<3> heck even go as far as go you belive the manual like its right
<8> chmood
<7> Enchanter_tim : But I want something to be started when the system loads instead of the login prompt.
<1> cancel: You've written man pages, right?
<1> Done some troff?
<7> Enchanter_tim : Can I load something automatically using my user - right when the system starts ?
<5> eliran: I don't know how to do that... however I like to have irssi started when my system boots. I use crontab and screen for that
<1> I won't ban you for the next two hours. I promise.
<1> Just be honest.
<5> eliran: then I just resume the screen wherever I want
<1> And, for $diety's sake, listen to what people are saying to you. You really need to understand what enchanter-tim, cognition, and I are telling you about your social flaws.
<7> cusco : OK. Should I use crontab to start it when the system loads, or is there another way ? I think I will do that with screen, as you suggested.
<2> Cancel: look, one of the most difficult things about human beings, especially those with big self-esteem, is that it is so difficult for them to recognize their own mistakes and flaws in their personalities. (unless you're going to say you don't have any, and you read that in a manual somewhere)
<5> eliran: I'm sure there are lots of other ways! lol. thats the onne I came out with tho.. its the one I use.. crontab @reboot screen -dms cusco irssi
<5> then you have to find some centericq option for autoconnect on the program itself
<7> cusco : When I load centericq it read's settings from my ~ dir, and then connects. I need it in the background so I can send sms msg's from other windows using centericq CL parameters.
<2> Cancel: i hope that you will get to the point of recognizing your own mistakes in perhaps logging, and watching the way you argue with others. Just log it somewhere and look at it later.
<1> cancel: ANyways, man pages can be wrong, and often are wrong. Especially when it comes to grammar or words. They get out of date. They document a feature that didn't get merged.
<5> eliran: ... I supose screen does the job then!
<1> I know this, because I've written man pages. I imagine that you've written manpages too, and also dealt with the constant problem of "the man page is out of date". In this case, its some little silly thing that they said "compatible" when they meant replacement.
<7> cusco : Thank you very much. I'l try to do that when i'l be able to restart my machine and test. l8r !
<5> :)
<1> So what. That's a typo. That doesn't matter. What does matter is that you're taking it as more than documentation that may or may not be accurate.
<2> jblack: heck, 14 year olds document open source projects too.
<1> Cognition: Yeah. There's no special skill in it. Its troff.
<1> pardon me. Its groff.
<1> troff is a groff tool.
<5> the boring part of developping a software, is writting the documentation :/
<2> cusco: but it is one of the most important aspects of it
<4> groff is the gnu version iirc.and no one uses roff anymore ;)
<5> oh sure! its important no doubts about it
<2> heck, before i even write a function, i write 2-3 paragraphs explaining what it does
<5> :/
<2> in java or C++ that is.
<1> Cognition: And what happens to your beautiful summary 3 weeks later, after you've changed the function a dozen times? :)
<5> wish everybody was like you
<5> :P
<2> jblack: that's part of development. You can never be ahead of the game.
<1> Rule 1: Documentation can only be accurate if it correctly describes all of the features present.
<1> Rule 2: Humans can only really do one thing at a time.
<2> Anyway, gotta go now .. my cryptography cl*** starts in like 20 minutes
<2> see ya all
<6> Laters Cognition
<1> 3. If you change the code, the documentation is by definition out of date for at least a moment.
<1> Thus, the best you can do is approach the limit. :)
<9> Bye
<4> hey selter
<1> Cognition: Have fun
<2> :) thx
<10> Cognition : Holy crap, you're lazy! Type out your words! Gosh!
<2> vrsa: bitch
<4> hahaha
<1> speaking of which...
<1> I meet her at 3 today.
<7> So what's the best way to start a program after my systems loads (with a specific user) ? should I use crontab for that, or is there a better way ?
<4> jblack: time to polish the armour?
<4> eliran: you can create a startup script
<1> eliran: Can you be more precise? Once after boot? Every 20 minutes?
<1> When you log in?
<4> eliran: like the ones in /etc/init.d
<4> hmm... coffee good!
<7> jblack : Once after boot. I'll look into /etc/init.d. thanks !
<11> hello
<1> Yeah inetd is easiest if you have root permissions also. If not, you have to look at a crontab guard script.
<1> Isaac-Lew: Hi
<7> jblack : So i just create a link to my program in /etc/init.d and that's it ???
<1> Nope. More effort that that.
<4> mr Lew
<4> :)
<11> hi all
<7> jblack : Or can i put a .sh file there ? And how can I make it start under my user and not root's ?
<1> You need a sh script that accepts start and stop. You probably also want restart and shutdown
<1> You'll have to have the script su the command.
<11> eliran: look at the scripts already in /etc/init.d - that should help to get you started
<7> OK, thanks.
<1> for example, as a user, you can run:
<1> su - root -c "/bin/cat /etc/shadow"
<1> You'd probably want...
<1> su - USERNAME -s "/binary/is/here"
<1> whoops.
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