| |
| |
| |
|
Page: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Comments:
<0> well this wasnt about distros really was it?
<1> In the case of the redhat family, files that are hidden to you won't be exposed by locate.
<1> In the case of the deb family, files that are hidden to you are exposed.
<2> aww I see
<1> Gentoo exposes too.
<0> then they are not slocate compatible
<0> my updatedb is and I got that straight from the man page
<0> you know how I love to cite the manual
<1> Yeah, because the behaviour is differnet on different distros.
<1> I'd agree that the redhat behaviour is much improved. I don't know the posix standard inasmuch as it applies to locate databases.
<1> The Deb and gentoo world cope with the problem differently. You either run it as root and expose, or you let users run it individually, which is rather... expensive.
<1> http://connessi.webminds.cs.unibo.it:8880/ is awesome. :)
<2> I just noticed anyway.. there is a debian package "slocate"
<1> except that I think I just broke it with the back button
<2> "slocate - Secure replacement of findutil's locate
<1> cusco: Yeah. Its not the default though. I have no idea why.
<3> it is obvious that redhat and debian are the most "different" distros out there ...
<3> in fact, whenever i catagorize distros, i tend to push them either to redhat or debian, because most of them are derivations of the two. rpm and deb are the most famous pacakge systems. So i like to think that redhat and debian are the grand daddys of most of what's out there. So they remain my favorite two distros
<1> Cognition: Most different, eh? Which one would you compartmentalize gentoo, slackware and lfs into?
<4> Hehe
<5> 12191 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/oidentd
<5> why the oidentd not work ?
<3> jblack: agreed, they are different, and LFS definitely kicks ***. BUT, LFS is just _your_ baby. Slackware is the oldest alive distro, so it's a special case, and gentoo is source based so it's also a special case. However, most of the top known distros still derive from either of the two distros i mentioned.
<1> Fair enough...in my mind slackware is more different than both rh and deb than rh and deb are from each other.
<0> jblack: redhat doesnt like to run things as root, it will launch a process as root then change the user
<1> cancel: Yeah. Deb does that too. :)
<3> jblack: hmmm, i tend to think differently there. slackware and debian share that absolute freedom aspect that redhat doesn't enjoy (meaning debian doesn't sell serviecs the way redhat and its derivatives do)
<1> Cognition: Ever heaqr of progeny? :?)
<0> jblack: in any event even if you run that particular process as root its a so what as the db is the db
<5> Cognition
<5> can i prv ?
<5> u ?
<0> jblack: its just a file sitting on the drive
<1> progeny was to debian as redhat was to fedora. Thoug hte timing is off.
<3> CantLove: go ahead
<0> if its slocate compatible in fact you'd want to run it as root so all things are in the db not the things of the user that ran it
<1> cancel: What is with this "slocate compatible" you keep saying?
<6> jblack: how to install gcc in fedora
<1> cancel: I know there's an slocate tool. Debian has it as well, though its not the default (why, don't know. it seems silly).
<3> ALi^-: yum install gcc
<7> lol
<7> another botnet d-00d
<7> :P
<0> an enhanced version that doesnt display unauthorized files
<1> cancel: But either I'm misundersatnding you, or you're saying that "locate is not compatible with slocate". Which is like saying my ford is not compatible with my ford.
<1> gah.
<1> cancel: But either I'm misundersatnding you, or you're saying that "locate is not compatible with slocate". Which is like saying my ford is not compatible with my chevy.
<1> Not that I own a ford. Or, for that matter, a chevy.
<3> jblack: speaking of which ...
<3> jblack: what _do_ you drive anyway :)
<1> A subaru
<6> Cognition : that command is not working
<3> jblack: i imagine you driving an SUV
<3> no ****!
<3> wow, so not you ..
<1> As it happens, its a small-size suv.
<3> yeah i know it
<3> four wheel
<1> All wheel, actually. And I have it because the first winter after I moved in it snowed. Feet at a time. All winter.
<3> jblack: so what do you do when you're not #linuxing?
<1> sleep, use the bathroom and go grocery shopping. Play video games. Teach my daughter.
<1> code.
<3> wow, those are exhausting activities .. :)
<3> how about any sports in there?
<7> ALi^-: you need to isntall yum
<7> haha
<7> :p
<1> I threw my kid's book at her earlier. That count as sports?
<3> LOL
<7> lol
<3> jblack: dude, you gotta change your life style before you hit 50 and find yourself 400 lb with diabetes and high BP or something
<1> HAH! What do you know!~
<3> LOL
<1> It doesn't take 50 years and 400 pounds to get diabetes, high BP or something.
<7> nahh you wil die :P before you hit that
<1> I'm 34, 250 and already have diabetes, high blood pressure AND a brain tumor.
<1> Do I get extra credit for finishing early?
<3> you're ****tin me ...!
<1> what do you think?
<3> jblack: and why not do smething about instead of "sleep, use the bathroom and go grocery shopping"?
<6> yum install gcc
<6> -bash: yum: command not found
<1> ALi^-: do you have a command named "apt-get" ?
<0> jblack: if it isnt slocate compatible it should be
<0> jblack: again my man page says slocate compatible
<3> ALi^-: are you typing yum as root?
<6> yes
<3> ALi^-: yum is located in /usr/sbin which is usually not in the path of the regular user
<3> ALi^-: just to make sure, type "whereis yum"
<7> Cognition: vps doesnt have yum ;P
<1> cancel: I know two forms of compatible. compatible for interoperation. I don't see why you want locate and slocate to interoprate. I'd rather replace one with the other.
<3> ALi^-: you're on fedora right?
<6> yes
<3> ALi^-: what did you get when typing "whereis yum" ?
<6> whereis yum
<6> yum:
<3> ok ...
<1> Doesn't whereis just search the path?
<7> jblack: a vps by default is clean
<3> jblack: whereis - locate the binary, source, and manual page files for a command (man pages)
<8> back
<1> yeah, but doens't it just search the appropriate paths?
<7> hey Enchanter_tim
<4> It searches the path, not the disk *atleast to my knowledge*
<1> where is blah; touch /tmp/blah; chmod +x /tmp/blah; whereis blah
<1> Shows no blah.
<8> which searches the binary path. whereis uses mandb, and the locate database
<8> (iirc)
<1> Now, "find / -name ym", that'll work
<3> that's because it locates binary commands, not files
<9> hi
<0> jblack: I never mentioned anything interoperating or not interoperating I did tell you what the man page said
<9> i need some help plz..
<1> Enchanter_tim: Also the binary path, to see if the binary is about. :)
<1> cancel: That's what compatible means to me. What does compatible mean to you?
<3> ALi^-: which fedora version do you have?
<8> oh
<8> whereis has a hard-coded path, so may not always find what you're looking for.
<0> jblack: doesnt matter what it means to me when I am quoting the manual
<0> jblack: matters what it means to writers of said manual
<8> hey chills
<0> jblack: which is why I quote manuals ;)
<7> hows it coming along Enchanter_tim
<1> cancel: I can quote a book that says there's a creature out there that catches bushes on fire. That doesn't mean its true. :)
<3> Enchanter_tim: agreed
<0> jblack: well you can test the truth of most *nix man pages
<6> wait
<8> chills: well, its all going well
<1> Well guys, I'm a ****er for accuracy. You can lart me later
<8> :)
<7> hwos the multi tasking coming along ?
<1> cancel: Good idea. Lets check the truth of the slocate manpage by looking at dictionary.com
<1> Definition #1: capable of existing or living together in harmony: the most compatible married couple I know.
<8> chills: quite fine. Im doing a compsci study, am sort of dating, have a social life and i work 40 hours a week
<7> ah i just meant the univ and the job but damn
<7> lol
<1> So you're telling me that locate and slocate can exist together. I want to know if that's what you mean.
<3> ALi^-: cat /etc/issue
<0> if you dont see <cancel> i didn't tell you
<0> i cited the manual for you no more no less
<0> the rest is arguments you're inventing for me
<1> Ok. So that's not what you mean. You're quoting something that may or may not be right.
<1> Oh, it is.
<1> (what you mean).
<0> if the manual is not right contact manual writers
<10> Shalom everyone. How can I make centericq load on tty2 with my user when the system starts ?
<6> Fedora Core release 2 (Tettnang)
<6> Kernel \r on an \m
Return to
#linux
or
Go to some related
logs:
#php
matthews genelogy
mumble-me
#india
#india
sesucinya cintamu means
#allnitecafe
#allnitecafe
#chat-world
sutrum vizhi script
|
|