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<0> Sergeant_E: I just switched from FC3 to Ubuntu 6.06 today
<1> really :)
<1> how do u find ubuntu
<0> Sergeant_E: I can tell you that you can install and run ubuntu faster then you can fix your broken dependencies... no joke!
<0> Google,
<0> Sergeant_E: you want the live desktop CD. Everything installs from that one CD
<0> Sergeant_E: it is MUCH better!
<1> maybe i should try it
<0> Sergeant_E: if you value your time... you will
<1> but i have a lot of things running on my fc4, apache ,mysql, .....etc
<0> dual boot
<0> That's what I did
<0> I still have FC3 on this machine incase I need it
<0> until the migration is complete
<0> Once I get Samba working correctly, I don't need FC3 anymore
<1> it's installer can detect another linux installed and install the dual booter?
<0> yep
<0> It's the easiest install I've EVER seen
<0> even easier then Winblows <-- not a typo
<1> lol
<2> most installers can detect another linux system
<1> can u give me a link to download it ?
<0> Sergeant_E: do you have a good CD burner prog like k3b?
<2> unless Im not understanding what you guys are talking about?
<0> Sergeant_E: yeah... hold on
<1> yes
<1> i do
<2> if anyone has a couple monitors, and systems check out synergy
<2> on sourceforge, I just found it a couple days ago, its awesome
<1> what does it do ?
<2> it allows you to have only one mouse/keyboard, and move it between systems
<0> Sergeant_E: do you have a regular 32bit PC?
<1> yea intel
<2> ie, if you have a linux sys and a windows sys and need to go back and forth between the two you dont need two mice/keyboards
<0> Sergeant_E: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
<2> or do any manual switching
<0> Sergeant_E: Burn that onto a CD, and that's all you need. You can boot up on it and check it out without even installing it.
<3> books: there is good hardware for that
<2> ya, but hardware = $$
<0> books: I have a simple kvm switch that does that. And the advantage is that I only have to have 1 machine running.
<3> :/ less overhead in the long run
<0> books: If you were ALWAYS going to run both machines... I guess it would be ok... as long as the server machin didn't crash
<2> meh, I like switching between windows and linux for different things it makes ti so much easier
<0> books: I used to think that too... until I learned what appz touse in Linux. I litterally have no use for windows anymore.
<3> a foot switch would still work for that
<2> its not a matter of apps, its a matter of getting stuff done quick
<0> books: give me an example
<2> well, in my case, I dont have open office installed
<2> but i have office 2003
<2> so rather than install it etc, I can just jet over
<2> plus pentesting, and playing around with security stuff between platforms is easier
<1> books do u have a link for that prog
<1> i think it might be useful for me
<2> search sourceforge
<2> "Synergy"
<1> i have 3 machines next to one another but only room for one monitor
<1> so 2 of them only have power cord and network cable
<2> aye, I have 4 monitors 2 machines
<2> thats why I like it
<0> I have 2 machines, and 2 monitors, 1kb and 1mouse
<0> I used to only have 1 monitor, but I found out how awsome it was to be able to watch 2 machines at the same time... eventhough I'm only controlling 1.
<0> I have em all linked to 1 pair of speakers through a mixer.
<2> i have 4 21' dells because I played poker
<1> :)
<2> but I found out I increased productivity about a million fold with more than one monitor
<3> hahaha
<1> darn it i'm on sourceforge.net and i can't find a search text box
<2> synergy2.sourceforge.net
<1> i need to search google about tne search page for sourceforge :)
<0> I have the borg going on in here... none of my machines are are really new... but I keep adding more and more old ones to the collective :-P
<2> haha, ya, I hear that
<0> I even have a 486 laptop hook in :::laughs:::
<2> i have a million of those
<2> used to set up hacked sattelites with them
<0> I used to use it for asm proggin
<0> to isolate the code incase I messed up
<2> cool, Im trying to learn that now
<1> i can't stand the noise of the fans, so i keep all pcs in another room and remote desktop on them from my laptop
<0> Sergeant_E: I hate the noise too, which is why I P***ive water cool
<0> I have 1 p***ive water cooled machine in my collective so far
<0> over clocked AMD 233
<2> yikes, slow down there speedster
<0> I'm getting a AMD 1600 soon, that will be the next p***ive water cooled machine
<1> :)
<3> mmx over clocked too what?
<0> DR_DaTA: Don't know
<4> dont play with those dangerous toys
<0> The AMD 233 I couldn't get to run past 266
<1> the thing that frustrates me is that when i press Alt+Tab it doesn't switch between applications inside the vnc window but on my laptop
<0> DR_DaTA: Heat was not the issue.. it just would not do it
<3> not suprised
<0> So I'm interested in virtual machines... Because I'd like to be able to simply run my windows progs (***uming I care) on my linux machine... in a virtual machine. Is that realistic?
<3> yes
<0> Right now all I use window sfor is playing Starcraft... litterally
<3> then wine
<0> And because i don't know how to set up a printer in Linuix :-P
<1> u will have to run a windows version ona virtual machine i guess
<0> I couldn't get wine to run it.
<0> It ran SO slow it was NOT cool
<0> not even close to playble
<0> what are the pros/cons of virtual machines?
<1> never tried one before
<3> I dual boot for games "I dont use vmware for that yet"
<4> virtual machine is much of a resource hog than a useful thing actually
<4> not yet for now...
<0> DR_DaTA: yeah... I have 2 seperate machines, butit would be awsome just to stack up all of my hard drives into one... and free up some space in this lonely little bedroom
<3> thus the dual boot
<4> unless your using a dual proc quad core
<4> and you really wanted two OS loaded at once..
<3> +overhead
<0> Basically what I guess i'm really looking for is dual boot with out the rebooting part.
<1> 5 more hours to go untill i download ubuntu :)
<0> Sergeant_E: % hours!
<0> Sergeant_E: 5 hours !?!?!?
<0> Sergeant_E: you on dial up?
<1> no 512k dsl
<1> 6% so far
<0> Sergeant_E: I'm sorry to say that it will STILL be fast then trying to deal with FC4 and yum
<4> Sergeant_E how long have you been downloading that 6%?
<3> it wills peed up in the middle and slow down at the end
<1> 10 minutes i guess
<1> ok now only 3.5 hours left :)
<0> ok... "apt-get install ncurses" is not working please tell me there is an EASY way to do this
<1> wow this syngergy is billiant
<1> it unifies the clipboard screensaver, lock screen :)
<0> ok, so if I was in FC3, I go look for the ncurses rpm... what do I do in ubuntu, now that I have apt-get?
<1> 10%
<0> Sergeant_E: if you blow on it it'll go a littel faster
<1> :$
<0> looks like ubuntu uses .DEB files
<5> ubuntu uses something very,very similiar to debs.
<5> You may have abi problems if you try and use them on Debian
<1> gotta go
<1> c'ya laterz folks
<0> jblack, It appears that Ncurse maybe installed, but gcc can't find ncurses.h . I did a search, and ncurses.h does not exsist. Why does Gdebi say that it's already installed?
<0> all .h files are supposted to be in /usr/include, right?
<0> ncurses.h is not in there
<5> you need ncurses-dev
<0> jblack I'm looking at that now... the website give me a list of what is in it. I can't find anything that has ncurses.h in it. Where the hell is it???
<0> Jblack, ok.. I found it
<0> Great... it conflicts with existing package ncurses5-dev. Well if Ncurses5-dev is installed... why the hell is there no .H file!?!?!
<0> ok... how do I manage installed pakages in ubuntu?
<0> How do I uninstall something?
<0> or list what is installed?
<0> I kmnow in FC it's rpm -qa
<0> well that was STUPID!
<0> I had to run synaptic pagkage manager... and tell it to reinstall the already installed nucrses5-dev pakage.
<0> it created the .H files, and everthing else it was already supposed to ahve
<6> woah nopic has a nice stats
<0> Nothin like a netsplit to keep things interesting
<7> people, if i have a process running and listening on a certain port, and i want to neutralize it for a certain period (a few minutes) without killing it, how do i do it?
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