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<0> That's fair.
<1> just for controlling registers etc..
<0> That's a good point
<0> If you're stepping through with gdb, you need a good grasp of ***embly if the symbols have been stripped.
<1> yeah :)
<1> i like reverse engineering..
<0> Yeah. I have an idea of what sorts of things you do for fun when bored.
<1> lol :) too much
<2> lol well, I wouldn't say that it's always been fun, but sometimes--in a pinch when you just have to get something done--you have to do it in asm
<0> Which is kinda cool, imo. I almost always root for the underdog.
<1> yay :) i am the underdog :)
<2> I've tended to have to reverse for working with poorly documented interfaces
<0> And the idea of a large pile of loose cannons going around and giving out cracks for software from The Big Companies.. I can't help but cheer for that.
<1> it's a british thing to root for the underdog :)
<0> You'll never get me to publicly admit to using cracks...
<2> few things tick me off as quickly as mis-/under-documented APIs
<1> lol ;) know that feeling..
<0> dp2: That hasn't bothered me so much up till now, as I've primarily lived in the free software world.
<0> Don't trust the docs, you can always check the code.
<0> But now that I'm fooling with the apis for that other, larger os, its starting to annoy me
<2> well, that only works up to a point. even in the free software world, one has to sometimes link against poorly built libs (for which you only have the binaries)
<0> I've always had a problem with crossing that line though.
<0> I like a clear division between the free software world and the proprietary one.
<2> this is especially true for working with drivers from companies like Broadcom, Nvidia, and ATI who often release binary-only code.
<0> A lot of people get tricked by my dogma. I'm not anti-proprietary in the way that people think. I'm just against the mixing.
<0> I hold a line that proprietary drivers are inherent vulnerabilities.
<0> At least, on my free time.
<2> :)
<0> I get very pragmatic when there's a paycheck involved. Enough so that people don't recognize me.
<0> At work, i'm there to get paid. I save my world-saving for my offtime.
<2> then your ideology is probably fairly similar to mine
<2> what I'll work with for my clients, isn't necessarily what I'd choose to work with for my own stuff
<0> Yeah.
<0> Exactly.
<0> When someone is paying you, they're paying you to do what they want, not what you want.
<3> why did i get this message ? Continued download failed on this file, which conflicts with `-c'.
<3> Refusing to truncate existing file `antivir_workstation_win7u_en_h.exe'.
<3> bash-3.00$ wget -c "http://files3.majorgeeks.com/files/d69fe70acfb29c30d1a8a7735bc53b58/antivirus/antivir_workstation_win7u_en_h.exe";
<1> appologies with that.. had to look at a IE new vuln :)
<2> yes, and the ones who don't get that, usually don't remain employed for much longer
<1> dunno i tend to just get paid for having fun ;) i love my job what can i say
<0> Though I did have a problem with working at canonical.
<0> It seemed like a lot of what I was getting paid to do was to subvert free software.
<0> Its one thing to be pragmatic. Its another to bury idealists and plant trees over their carc***es for profit
<2> that sounds odd, and I've heard of others being placed into similar situations.
<1> lol yeah alot of medium/large companies do that from my experience..
<0> Not like this....
<0> But I'd rather not go into it. Its not good business to speak ill of past partners.
<1> i seen alot of companies getting hold of opensource code, modifyin maybe 15% of the codebase then calling it there own, no GPL or nothing..
<1> yeppers :) agreed
<0> I've no doubt of that. That sort of place gets caught from time to time.
<1> it's worse when your not even allowed to talk about past employers (this affects me alot of the time, not able to explain what i have done for a company on my cv)
<0> There's ways to work in that framework.
<2> well, that's also partly why reversing will always be necessary--to help keep everyone honest from time-to-time.
<1> hell yeah :)
<0> Often you can write up something for the CV and send it to the company for approval.
<1> yeppers..
<0> nda's are a little more flexible than commonly known. You can do more than they say, you just need permission first
<1> i got some jobs i can name the employer, but not my job title, or a description of what i did..
<1> nda's are ok, becuase you can ask for permisssion..
<1> but some jobs, you cant talk of job atall..
<0> Yeah, if they don't grant permission, they don't.
<1> :)
<1> MOD over here is not nice..
<0> mod?
<1> militry..
<1> they're real anal about job descriptions..
<0> Lets not talk about it.
<0> So, I'm thinking about making pizza from scratch.
<1> yeppers i wasn't gonna even start jb..
<1> umm
<0> Anyone know if I can substitute vegetable oil for olive oil?
<1> should be able to ..
<2> you can, but it will affect the taste
<1> just make sure it's not virgin olive oil..
<2> and veg oil has a lower smoke-point
<0> as in I can replace normal olive oil, but I can't replace extra virgin
<1> know here's a question. what you gonna put on that pizza :) yep thats ok jb..
<2> any reason for the switch?
<1> and healthier :)
<0> I'm going to put on mozerella cheese, spagetti sauce (since i have that), and peperoni
<1> umm jesus, making me hungry now, it's only 1051 here..
<2> corn or peanut oil might be a better substitute than veg oil
<0> Its 5:49 am here.
<0> I have vegetable oil. If I want a different kind of oil, then I'd have to go to the store for it.
<2> ahh. well, add a little more veg oil than what was called for with the olive oil
<0> ok
<0> the really neat thing about not working for 3 months is that I've learned how to cook
<1> hell yeah :)
<1> whats your speciality dish?
<1> (everyone has a favorate dish to cook)
<4> pizza i guess ;)
<4> long time no see welshiD ;)
<2> pmo!!!!
<0> I don't have a favorite yet.
<4> dp2 :D
<1> hey pmo ;) likewsie, just moved flats, aint got no net/phone line yet :)
<4> longer time no see dp2 !
<0> I suspect pizza will become my favorite though
<1> mine chilli, i love a really good chilli :)
<1> hehe
<4> ahh ok welshiD
<0> be back. I'm gonna throw this in the bread maker
<4> whats going on dp2 ? :)
<1> sweedish meatballs are nice ;)
<2> at work :)
<4> ahh cool :)
<2> I do most of the cooking at home :)
<1> same, but i aint got no missus or nothing so i'de starve , or have to get takeaway
<4> whatever is on :P
<1> btw i do now live 20secs from domino's pizza now..
<1> umm rice :)
<4> rice and curry !!
<1> umm phaaal
<1> hehe i like a nice madras myself :)
<2> madras . . . nice :)
<4> :P
<2> I love all kinds of rice--but my favorites are basmati and jasmine :)
<1> jasmine, aint had that yet i'm guessing it's nice ;)
<5> anyone using ident2
<4> come and buy basmati rice $2.15.. (paki style)
<4> ;)
<1> sweet
<1> but i used to live in bradford which is little pakistan..
<4> haha ;P
<1> used to live like 5mins from the famous mumtaz resteruant..
<4> only paki i have seen for years was my censor for oral english
<4> heh
<0> ok. its doughing
<1> sweet..
<1> u know, i dont even own a microwave..
<1> and my new flat, the oven is bust :(
<1> it's a new build aswell, which has really pissed me off..
<0> mulder: everytihng ok?
<6> yeah
<6> xchat screwed up on this tab
<6> and i had to kill/reopen it
<6> it might be a gtk thing mroe than xchat
<0> This ****s. it says I have to let the dough site 'overnight'
<4> welshiD, i cant shower. the piping is fckd, so i gotta wait for monday to come
<6> otherwise if i didnt and i idle, xchat starts chewing 100% cpu
<6> jblack, the what?
<0> I'm trying to make pizza for the first time
<6> oh
<6> pizza is easy
<6> i take it you're making the dough by hand
<0> I'm using a bread maker, but yeah.
<4> lets send jblack, to one of thos TV shows ? ;)
<4> +e
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