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<0> sudo of course..
<1> i.e. run it as root
<1> sudo is just one preferred way to do that
<0> but how can i find the source, or the exact apt name
<1> try freshmeat.net
<0> thanks
<1> i strongly recommend to NOT download and install anything from freshmeat.net
<1> you should use your distro's package manager to do that
<2> Oh?
<1> but freshmeat is excellent at finding what you are after
<0> is that firewall named exactly lokkit?
<1> jblack: yes someone asking a newbie question is not someone for whom i would recommend manually installing source outside of the package manager :)
<2> Fair reasoning
<1> WiNn3t0U: not sure, but search for "lokkit" using their search field and if that doesn't find what you are after, try just "firewall" and check the (many) results
<1> there are lots of good apps for that sort of thing
<0> well... i'm a begginer in linux, so what would you suggest to do reguarding the firewall ??
<0> because i obviously need it....
<1> well
<1> the software firewall on your PC
<1> should be a supplement to whatever your router provides (preferably NAT and stateful packet inspection)
<1> NAT especially, as in I would not buy a broadband router that did not have it
<1> the most secure policy is to deny all packets by default and then set rules that specifically allow only the traffic that you want
<1> if you are not knowledgable about general TCP/IP networking then this will be quite a learning experience for you :)
<0> yes... but i think i'm a little too newbie for that....
<1> yeah
<1> it also helps if you have an idea of your threat model
<1> i.e. what are you guarding and what are you guarding it against?
<1> just how determined of an attacker are you trying to be able to stop?
<1> and remember that if someone has physical access to your machine you can forget about protecting it from them
<1> supposing they are determined i mean
<1> but realistically
<1> if your router is doing NAT
<0> of course, but i need just the basic protection.....
<1> and you have not poked any holes in it (i.e. not set up port forwarding nor port triggering)
<1> then your biggest worry are exploits against your web browser of choice
<1> which btw should _NEVER!!_ be run as root for any reason
<0> yes... man... that language and words you use are too difficult to me, i must learn the meaning ...example... port triggering and so..
<1> ok
<1> basically
<0> but now it doesn't matter very much.. i'll learn...
<0> and...
<0> look
<1> yes?
<0> i've found on ubuntu's web-site a download on lokkit..
<1> sweet
<3> Routermen, how i will access the EXT3 files in NTFS ?
<0> i can download it manually or using the wget function
<0> so..
<0> when i download it..
<3> how to see the linux files on windows xp ??
<1> i ***ume that means you are using ubuntu?
<0> but before.. should i download it ??
<0> yes
<1> then you probably have .. i think it is called Synaptix ?
<0> yes, i use ubuntu :D
<0> wait be right back
<1> it'll be in your menus under System if i recall
<0> i go see on a web site..
<1> (friend of mine uses ubuntu but personally i never have so i am working from memory here)
<0> synaptic
<0> could that be ?
<1> yes
<1> see if you can install it from there
<0> synaptic paccage manager
<1> that is the more convenient way
<1> yes that is the one
<3> ?????????????????????
<1> btw what i was saying before about NAT...
<0> when i search for lokkit, it can't be found..
<1> basically a NAT setup means that your router will not accept incoming connections. it will let you connect out to a remote site, but it will not accept incoming connections. port forwarding and port triggering are how you tell it to allow the outside world to connect to machines behind the firewall, which you have no reason to do if you are not running any servers that you intend to be world-accessible
<1> ... there's a lot more to NAT than that
<1> but with regard to your question that is the most important part
<0> ahh.. ok
<1> WiNn3t0U: then the download from Ubuntu's web site should work for you
<1> the web site should also have instructions for how to install it
<1> so, continuing. if no one can connect to your machine behind the firewall, but it can connect to the outside world, then your main source of attacks will be malicious web sites that you connect to via your web browser, which is what i meant when i said that exploits against your browser of choice will be one of your main threats
<0> it's tar.gz
<0> now i should extract it right ?
<1> hmm
<1> it did not provide a .deb ?
<1> maybe some ubuntu/debian user can help me out here :)
<0> http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/breezy/net/lokkit
<4> http://tinyurl.com/k4269
<0> could you see ?
<1> ah-hah
<1> in Synaptic
<1> check your Repositories
<1> and make sure that Breezy (Binary) is enabled
<3> may i ask a Question ?
<1> again i am working from the last time i laid eyes on Synaptic a couple weeks ago, so that might not be the exact name
<0> officially supported
<5> dapper drake is out :P
<1> WiNn3t0U: i think the keywords you are after are "Universe" and "Multiverse"
<5> Chimi, probably just better to ask instead of asking to ask :P
<1> someone who actually uses ubuntu can tell you much more about that than I could
<1> ubuntu's web site is also a good read
<5> I recommend EasyUbuntu (http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org) -- there is an option there to updated your sources.list to include all multiverse/universe stuff. though I think it's only for dapper, so you might have to upgrade if you're running breezy. EasyUbuntu also takes care of tons of nonfree common stuff
<1> csbot: ah cool, because that's one thing i was helping my friend with (the non-FOSS nvidia drivers) and it was a bit of a pain in the *** to do
<1> glad to see someone scratched that itch.
<3> csbot, how i will see the EXT3 partation on NTFS ? i want copy some files from EXT3 to NTFS
<1> Chimi: won't happen :)
<0> look
<5> causality: yeah EasyUbuntu is ag godsend. It really takes care of almost anything
<0> i found this source automatical generator http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
<3> i want copy some files from EXT3 to NTFS .! causality
<1> Chimi: save yourself some effort - burn a cd/dvd :)
<5> Chimi: last I heard there was a beta driver that allowed you to write to NTFS from linux, but it's very new and could completely hose your NTFS partition
<1> microsoft has gone very far out of its way to hide the information that is needed to write to and otherwise properly handle NTFS
<1> you could also use a fat32 partition as a middleman since both windows and linux can read and write to that
<1> (fat32, such as you would find on a usb drive for example)
<0> ahhhh.....
<5> yeah, that's a much better idea if you don't wanna use CD's
<3> if i want to save data on NTFS partation .. from linux ?
<0> soo..... when i want to do something what requires admin privileges, only then i use sudo.... am i right ?
<1> Chimi: any option you have there carries a serious risk of destroying your ntfs partition
<3> how i will give access to NTFS paration Read / Write . Access to NTFS partation csbot
<5> Chimi, you're really asking for trouble if you use that beta ntfs driver. It will probably destroy your partition.
<1> better not to use proprietary filesystems
<3> how it will destro the partation i will not touch the Main system Files ..
<3> csbot,
<1> WiNn3t0U: the idea is you want to only use "admin" (root) when you need to
<5> Chimi, Linux will allow you to read your NTFS partition's pretty well, but writing is still very beta
<1> like they say with guns, don't pull it out if you aren't going to use it
<3> causality, will it damage my NTFS partation if i will give access to NTFS partation ?
<1> Chimi: by default you can only read an NTFS partition
<1> unless you go out of your way to enable writing, you can only read it
<1> (it's a kernel configuration option because the driver is in the kernel)
<1> but don't do that.
<5> Chimi, if you use the defalt NTFS driver and mount the partition as read-only (which is also default) then you won't hard the partition at all. But you also won't be able to write to it
<0> ahh...
<0> and one more thing...
<1> read-only and a working partition beats read-write and a corrupt partition any day :)
<3> yeah i can Read . but if i want to give aaccess to Write some .. data on NTFS paration .~
<0> i've found that i can update my system....
<0> and... i've done it two times..
<0> but when i update and want to start linux
<3> hmmmmmmm okeiz .. there is no way to save my data from linux to Ntfs ?
<0> i get a message that something is wrong with my display, and i can't start it... i can only use some kind of dos terminal...
<1> Chimi: write it to a Fat32 partition, boot windows, and read it off the Fat32 partition
<5> Chimi, better to not write at all. you could really mess up the partition itself. it has nothing to do with the files you write... it's just that the whole filesystem itself could (and probably would) crash
<1> this is all very simple
<1> no need to think of it as doing something complex
<1> and this is just what happens when you store your data in a proprietary filesystem like Microsoft's NTFS.
<1> you can run into similar problems using proprietary file formats.
<1> this is why open standards are a good thing
<5> get a USB pen drive, format it as fat 32, and use it to move files back and forth
<5> Linux and Windows both play nice with FAT32
<1> oh and i should clarify my definition of simple. "drop and do 500 push-ups" is *simple*. but i couldn't do it.
<0> anyone can help with the problem i described before ?
<1> but i was just saying the concepts involved are easy :)
<5> WiNn3t0U: what was the problem? sorry I had to reconnect
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