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<0> it's up on google videos. Good luck... I could only stomach about 30 seconds of it.
<1> heh no thanks
<1> i wish people like her would all just **** off
<0> OH! Speaking of which....
<0> google = popular. Google is also (in the mind of most) the best damn search engine out there.
<0> So google != ****.
<1> again until proven otherwise
<0> just picking nits. I'm bored.
<1> but perhaps
<1> you could say that this is more true of products
<1> than it is of services
<0> true
<2> google is now officially a verb in the dictionary
<0> i saw that.
<3> hello peeps!
<1> heh



<1> i still love just****inggoogleit.com
<0> google's actually pissed cause it dilutes their name and ****.
<1> per the info page .. "the popularity of this site just blows my mind"
<3> if there anyway i can set a repo to point to local cdrom?
<0> oh.. .they've changed their stance?
<0> spacysp1ff : Um... care to elaborate?
<3> simmy, hey remember me am the guy who uninstalled yum and rpm yesterday
<3> :)
<0> oh, yeah.
<3> hehe
<3> well ok so i installed a bare minimal stuff
<0> You're the guy that fux0red his box.
<3> but now when i add something it it tries to download it off the intenet which is rather slow
<0> man.... I can't believe yum LET you do that!
<3> simmy, well it wasnt me it was kyum
<3> honest
<3> i need to be really reaaly drunk to do something like that
<0> https://lists.dulug.duke.edu/pipermail/yum/2003-December/003187.html
<0> Here ya go. :)
<0> HOORAY FOR TEH GOOGLE!
<4> not me, im a noob, i can fux0r my box any time i want
<5> *sigh* I c an see uninstalling yum (barely) but on an rpm-based system, don't you think that you would need rpm?
<0> Isaac-Lew ; His story is that kyum deleted a ****load of stuff... including yum and nrpm
<3> :)
<0> s/nrpm/rpm/
<3> hahaha
<3> can you belive that
<0> That's his story and he's sticking to it.
<3> yea well that[ the funny bit
<3> coz i tried to uninstall a couple of things and then it took longer than usual
<0> so since he claims it was the software and not a boneheaded blunder... I feel OK laughing my *** off.
<3> so i click on the gmenu and i realised that a lot of icons were missing
<3> so i wondered what the hell happened so i had to kill the f***ing process
<0> If he fuxored a production server, I'd feel a little sorry.... and I might stifle the laughter. But since kyum borked the box... man....
<0> apt-get install debian
<0> :)
<3> simmy, u seem to be a debian fan
<0> Aye.
<3> ok so back to my qustestion
<4> heh
<6> E: Couldn't find package debian
<5> I don't think I've ever even come close to doing that...I did have a glibc upgrade that went bad, but I would think that there would be all kinds of warnings going off if I tried to uninstall rpm
<6> :>3
<1> anyone know offhand what aclocal is?
<0> opy all the rpms to a dir.
<0> run yum-arch .
<0> add
<0> [local]
<0> name=my local repo
<0> baseurl=file:///path/to/that/dir
<0> to your yum.conf
<0> you could just mount the cdrom and baseurl=file://mnt/cdrom
<2> it's the only distro that really feels "free", no ads, a simple, clean website. let alone robust and stable.
<7> I feel that the website could've done better with a little more neat design.
<7> It looks a little dated.
<3> lol
<1> Cognition: bah i don't even see ads anymore. adblock + filterset update = the web more as it should be
<2> the_ruthless: that's the beauty of it .. at least for me



<1> and **** it if commercial sites go bankrupt. i want the web the way it used to be
<4> as long as i get what i want i'll take the debian site the way it is
<2> it looks .. FREE
<7> causality: it's one way of paying for bandwidth and server space.
<2> i don't want a fancy website, that reminds me of a commercial domain trying to take money from me
<3> simmy, is there a better way than copying everything
<7> Cognition: but does free need to look old and unattended?
<3> i remeber apt makes a db of all the stuff and then you install it asks for the cd
<7> As it, in my eyes, does.
<4> free, maybe not, but fast, perhaps
<2> nah, i don't perceive it as old, just raw and un processed
<1> the_ruthless: advertisers have gone way too far. when so many of them think it's alright to try to install spyware etc then **** it, that's the kind of **** that makes me block all of them indiscriminately as i do not have time to sort the good from the bad and i hate the whole idea of "marketing" anyway
<2> gives you those geek kicks
<7> causality: I agree. I hate flash ads with sound and such. But the good old fashioned animated ad banners, not too space-consuming, is okay to me. I also like the Google text ads.
<2> i love the power of Debian as a stable, truly dedicated to the philosophy of free software kinda O.S.
<1> that and ads have nothing to do with my buying decisions. if i decide i need X product then I do my own research and find the highest-rated (or otherwise best in category) and i go buy that, regardless of what anyone's shiny ad copy says
<2> you won't see a price tag on anything, and i love that :)
<3> ello?
<1> sounds like gentoo also
<1> debian (and its spinoffs) and gentoo are the two major distros i know of that are noncommercial
<8> if you don't install any desktop environment, can you still have a mouse ?
<1> dont remember if slack is
<1> Al-Ashtar: sure, via GPM...
<2> Al-Ashtar: yes, mouse support exists on the shell
<1> but i think you meant don't install any window manager
<4> ubuntu don't forget
<2> Al-Ashtar: a good example is vim
<1> sweet_tooth: that was covered by "and its spinoffs"
<4> ah
<7> causality: obviously, research is teh ****. I merely have interest in the ads visuals, as I'm a graphics designer (and probably will continue to be for quite some time). And it's a way to pay bandwidth and server space for the provider of whatever the website has to offer.
<8> Cognition: what if I want it on the shell itself
<8> no applications
<7> Slackware also has a "cheap" website, BTW.
<1> the_ruthless: yeah but if the web site cannot subsist by y'know actually offering products/services people want to buy, then i am apathetic to whether or not they tank
<2> Al-Ashtar: i believe you can have a pointer, don't remember the software layer. However, it's useless to just have it floating around
<8> why not
<8> you can copy and paste with it
<7> causality: webshops should not have ads. Obviously. But in the ways of the open source world, I think ads for ISPs and tech and such is all good.
<2> Al-Ashtar: because you can "and should" do all of that with commands and shortcuts
<2> that's the power and beauty of using shell
<2> you want the mouse even on the shell!
<8> how can you copy and paste in a shell without the use of a mouse ?
<1> the_ruthless: okay but you just described what, less than 1% of all internet ads?
<2> i mean you can use it when xterm is running, but to go on runlevel 3 and run the mouse, doesn't make a lot of sense to me
<1> btw i do agree google's textads are great
<1> i've never felt a need to block them
<2> Al-Ashtar: I/O redirection, text editing, keyboard shortcuts, etc ...
<4> the only ads i really hate are the flash ads
<1> i block flash by default
<1> i have to specifically click on it
<1> just because 90% of the time it's a nuisance
<2> allright, time to crash for a bit
<2> later
<7> causality: But I partly agree. The ads bother me when they are "too much". Most commonly on news sites.
<1> ... but if google's textads started using <blink> tags, i'd block them in a hurry
<1> as they would then be like the animated gif's i never miss viewing
<7> Tiny static ads are okay to you?
<1> heh
<1> i block all ads actually
<1> other than google's textads
<1> i'm a big believer in freedom. i am under no obligation to download anyone's graphic/video/other media file. and no web site is under any obligation to serve me a web page.
<1> if i block their graphics/videos/ads and they decide to still serve me a web page, they have made their choice.
<9> anyone else using ident2?
<7> And don't misunderstand: I like the fact that Debian and such sites do fine without ads. I just want a little more "fresh" design on those sites.
<3> ok wish me luck guys i am using yumex
<9> the_ruthless: I love the simple designs, atleast things are easy to find and the site works 100% of the time :)
<3> yea webdesign check this pie chart for web design stats
<3> http://blog.phpdeveloper.org/wp-content/uploads/pm20060621.png
<7> m0b: simple is good. Good-looking and simple would be better.
<1> ... but i'll concern myself with how well a web site is doing and whether me viewing their ads will contribute to them just as soon as they worry about how well i am doing. of course nonprofits and open source sites are an exception to that, but when i want to do something to contribute to them i would donate
<1> as i think that's a much better way to show your support


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