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<0> Then I played with FreeBSD a bit and decided that I liked the way it was put together better. And its kernel is easier to manage (in my personal opinion). So I made the switch.
<0> My lappy still runs debian-sid, though. And I still try to reasonably keep up with the software that runs on everything. I just don't know a lot of the distro-specific stuff (or kernel-specific stuff) anymore.
<1> bah, I think I'm going to give up on mplayer being able to play .rm files... downloaded yet another one, from a different site, and it does the exact same thing... the window is 4x the size it should be, with the image tiled twice across the top, noise on the bottom, and all shades of green and no other color.
<0> causality : But to be honest... a lot of what made me swich wasn't linux's fault so much as it was that the distros that were out there (at the time) didn't do things in a way that made sense to me.
<2> heh
<2> yeha
<2> yeah
<3> wait this is too much, I can't keep coping and pasting hehe
<2> that's why i loved gentoo the moment i heard of it
<3> I'm going to find me a dictionary for xchat
<3> brb
<2> the only non-linux *nix that i would seriously consider running would be OpenBSD
<4> *Still wants to switch to the Gentoo*
<0> causality : That's what my firewall is. ;)
<2> the_ruthless: seriously man you'd love it
<4> causality: the moment I get a new CPU, I'm switching.
<2> but with gentoo you can also break the system if you don't take the time to know what you're doing
<4> Probably mid-to-late august.
<3> ok so bsd in not actually unix
<3> then what is ?
<0> nowadays, I like OpenBSD on my firewall, FreeBSD on my server, and WinXP on my clients.
<4> causality: by that time, I'm ready to get committed to learning.
<2> especially if you upgrade part of the toolchain/gcc/glibc any of that kind of **** you need to rebuild system twice and then rebuild world twice or you can get some strange problems later on that may not have an apparent cause
<2> same deal if you change your useflags
<0> Al-Ashtar: AIX, Solaris, HP-UX, IRIX, XENIX, UnixWare, um......
<4> Good to known.
<2> that's just a source-based distro for you, and is not particular to gentoo
<3> unix is free also ?
<0> technically.... linux is unix-like. (It started as a minix clone). *BSD's are derivatives of the original BSD (which was Unix). They're unix-like as well.
<0> Unix is a trademark held by the OpenGroup.
<0> You gotta be POSIX compliant and pay to use the trademark to be Unix. That's it.
<0> OSX is unix-like.
<2> reason why as you may know is that rebuilding 'system' (i.e. toolchain etc) once builds your updated toolchain, rebuilding it a second time rebuilds your updated toolchain, WITH the updated toolchain. rebuilding world once builds world with your updated toolchain, rebuilding world a second time rebuilds world with the updated toolchain, linked against other packages also build with the updated toolchain
<2> otherwise you can have a system not consistent with itself
<0> yeah. what he said.
<2> and the guides on gentoo.org, in my opinion, don't do a very good job of making that clear
<2> but you can find this in the forums
<0> i'm going home. Later, all.
<0> *POOF*
<5> exactly the reason that debian gets to be do popular ...
<0> GREAT documentation? :)
<0> and apt-get.
<2> generally the gentoo docs are _****ing great_ but that one point does not seem to be mentioned very much
<4> causality: so the Gentoo forums are teh ****?
<2> that or it is, and in my "lets get straight to business" attitude i did not see it
<2> yes the forums are bad***
<4> Because I too, found the documentation a little lacking at points.
<2> all i ever needed were the portage docs and the initial installation guide
<2> the rest is general linux knowledge
<2> running redhat, debian, and slackware before gentoo brought me up to speed on the general knowledge part
<5> the forums are skinny because gentoo users usualy dont need them as much as say fedora users
<2> yeh
<2> yeah
<2> the result being, you don't have to sift through much sand to find the real gems
<2> but one tip, search the forums with google.
<2> their search engine will do the job but it can't hold a candle to google, as you would expect
<6> how i will install the KAAZA ?
<2> oh
<2> also check out an app called Kuroo
<2> if you do go with Gentoo you will love it
<4> causality: I'll be having that newbie approach to it anyway, so I'll probably break the system some times, and it will be great fun.
<4> What is Kuroo?
<2> the_ruthless: that's the most fun way to learn, yes
<2> this is actually my second install of gentoo
<7> hey people, is there a way to quickly navigate between workspaces in ubuntu linux
<2> when i bought a larger hard drive i just went ahead and reinstalled from scratch as i wanted to do some things differently anyway
<2> WiNn3t0U: that depends on your window manager... i am ***uming gdm (gnome) ?
<2> err just gnome...
<4> causality: yeah, I'm planning to have two hard drives, one for files, and one for the OS, so I _can_ mess about. :D
<2> and btw Kuroo is a graphical interface to Portage
<4> Neat! :D
<2> and it's actually really useful
<2> it uses the package categories in a slightly different way than vanilla emerge does, so it's easier to find what you are after
<2> most other GUI interfaces to portage that i have tried were not very usefull and seemed designed only for people who just hate the command line for some reason
<2> but that is my non-interface-expert opinion
<4> Kuroo sounds a little KDE-is? Is it?
<2> yes it is
<4> Nice.
<2> but of course if you have the kde libs installed you can use it with whatever
<4> Then I'd be happy.
<4> *Uses the KDE*
<2> personally i use kde also
<2> btw
<2> dunno how paranoid you are
<2> but i use the "hardened" profile for gentoo
<7> causality
<7> i actually don't know what i use...
<4> And why is that, causality?
<7> :(
<7> hehe
<2> which is everything compiled with SSP (userland) plus grsecurity/pax/other_choices_available for kernel
<2> why is that? so that despite me always keeping everything up to date, i am still protected against unknown flaws
<4> I'm not very paranoid, though. I'll be sitting behind a firewall anyway.
<2> because i'd hate to spend the effort doing that just to get nailed with someone for which there is not yet a patch
<2> i'm behind a firewall too
<2> i use an irc client, a web browser, and other apps that might possibly have flaws
<2> not as root, mind you, but my data is important to me too
<4> On this computer, I don't have any files. On the future one, I will be doing backups.
<2> well
<2> anything _really_ sensitive (like my finances) is done on a machine that has no network connection of any sort
<2> but still, i don't wish to become part of a botnet
<2> and i am thinking of running some servers at some point
<2> at which point this will really be a good thing
<4> On you workstation?
<2> on my personal PC here yes
<2> i have the bandwidth and my isp does not give a damn what i do with the connection (i made them specify this very clearly for me)
<7> so causality...
<4> Been there, done that. :D
<4> Back when I had SDSL.
<7> sorry man.. i need to learn to use a little faster the applications in linux..
<1> is there a way to make firefox not ask every single time I press "back" onto a page that is the result of a post form?
<7> that's why i sometimes don't reply at the moment.....
<2> well..
<2> i do not have the bandwidth for streaming media or anything like that
<2> but for simple web pages or my own email server, i do
<4> But I'll be going now.
<2> have fun
<4> It has been most interesting. Thanks for the info, causality.
<2> np
<7> so.... how can i quickly change the workspaces windows people ?
<2> and
<2> maybe you will feel the way i do
<2> that gentoo just "feels like how linux should be"
<2> i.e. not your businessman's distro
<4> I got that feeling right now, actually.
<2> i can tell you that i now have this bias that all binary distros look about the same to me
<2> WiNn3t0U: does your keyboard have those "Windows" keys?
<4> I tried installing it and messed up, and so I opted for a more newbie friendly distro for my 450MHz CPU.
<7> yes
<2> i find that hitting the windows key + tab
<2> lets me do that in kde
<2> not sure how that is in gnome
<2> but it might be semi-standard
<7> no..
<7> can't do...
<4> *Going*
<1> why the hell does firefox even ask? of course I want it to re-do whatever it did!
<2> hehe
<2> wonder if that could be configurable via about:config
<1> can't find an option anywhere in the preferences though to disable it.
<7> and by the way, how can i install that linux's firewall... i think it's called lokkit ?
<2> but that might take you a while to find
<2> WiNn3t0U: far as i know, all of those apps just help you manipulate the built-in firewall provided by the kernel
<2> i.e. they just send parameters to iptables
<2> so it shouldn't be anything special
<2> should install like any other app
<2> although you will need to use sudo or similar to run something like that
<1> no entry on the config page contains "post"
<7> sudo of course..
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