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<0> which compounds problems
<0> especially if one machine inadverantly gets the ip usually on another
<0> thats almost a no brainer there
<1> external dhcp
<0> doesnt matter where the dhcp is
<0> if another m achine gets a lease usually going to one machine
<0> and all you need to make that ahppen is just happen to have a machine down when leases expire
<2> yeah... maybe they should come up with some way to reserve an address with dhcp
<2> they could call it... I dunno... "reservation" would probably work
<0> well if the isp is the dhcp server have fun with that
<0> you folks are reinventing the wheel
<0> the solution is plain and simple
<2> and you're trying to show off without solving the problem at hand
<0> its already been solved
<3> It's good I don't have to relay on this. I'm glad my network works already.
<0> maybe you just dont understand the netfilter
<2> it's not that I don't understand netfilter... it's that you don't undersand the question
<0> i got the question fine
<0> heck even go tthe diagram
<0> do what I said it works
<0> been there done it
<2> obviously not, or you wouldn't be ranting on about nat
<0> and with that I move on
<2> in other words "you don't know"
<3> New diagram in five minutes or less.
<0> you're free to that opinion
<0> I am ok with you thinking that
<4> is there an open source "the sims"?
<5> .j #|
<6> nope. There's sure not.
<5> damn
<0> welcome back Cognition
<6> this is weird. If I type to fast, my keyboard sends ctrlZ to the box.
<5> MrAnderson: thanks
<5> simmy: may it has multiple sclerosis
<6> No... I don't think so.
<6> I think it's just kinda crazy, is all.
<5> Dude that was a joke :)
<6> water on the brain, maybe. I DID wash it last night. Might still have a little water in it somewhere. :/
<6> should be fine by tomorrow.
<7> How do I configure my display for Xwindows? after last nights updates it no longer works.
<3> http://www.virtualaddiction.net/linux/dhcp.png
<4> haha
<4> xorg --config, i think
<3> DaTa-MaN: X windows are windows on X. You want to configure your X server, not your windows.
<4> i love how apple computers return nmaps as like 1300 ports filtered
<7> It says "FATAL: modual Nvidia not found"
<0> p3nguin: you're going to have fun the day a lease changes
<7> is it talking about the kernel modual?
<5> first of, i believe it is module
<5> second
<3> MrAnderson: I only have 5 addresses possible. It's a /29.
<0> doesnt matter if ya had 2
<5> this is the binary (proprietary) nVidia driver
<5> you need it to get your graphics card working
<0> and since you do only have 5 you should set them statically which you still can do if the isp is offering dhcp you dont have to use it
<7> Cognition: it has been working for months, until last night when I did a yum update
<0> 6 excuse me
<3> I can understand if these are servers, but they aren't.
<7> Cognition: So how do I fix it?
<5> DaTa-MaN: then you probably updated the kernel, and you need the binary module specifically for that updated kernel
<7> Cognition:... so I need to find the nvidia modual for my updated kernel.. right?
<0> p3nguin: you can do things the way you want but if they are not servers even better reason to nat them
<0> unless you just like your machines being right on the public
<7> Cognition: what is the command to show my kernel version? I forgot
<5> module
<5> uname
<7> Thanks... I guess I gotta go find the module
<8> how hice bootsplash?
<7> Cognition: ok, I think I found the right module. Its an RPM. Do I just run rpm to install it? And what will happen if I'm wrong... and it's the wrong modual? How can I Undo it?
<5> DaTa-MaN: it is not modual, it is module
<5> if it is wrong, X-Window will not start, if it is correct, it will
<8> backup your old module
<7> How?
<5> slicers: won't work, he has a new kernel
<7> So I just install it with rpm right?
<5> yes
<7> any special switches?
<5> rtfm
<7> thanks
<4> # mysql
<4> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysql/mysql.sock' (2)
<4> ...i used to know how to fix this :-/
<8> check my.cnf
<8> /etc/my.cnf
<0> p3nguin: now humour me what are teh ips of our virtual interfaces
<0> p3nguin: if they are the public addies you should see the problem
<3> You don't understand what I want to do, so we'll just end up arguing about it.
<9> p3nguin: you want a Linux box to sit in front, do firewalling and have one real IP address, and just (dumbly) route the other addresses over to the LAN?
<2> hey hazze`x how's the weather?
<3> RuneB: No. I want to transparently p*** the other IPs to the LAN machines. No firewalling, no filtering of any kind.
<0> them packets arent going to move themselves ;)
<3> Ever hear of routing?
<0> then get to routing
<10> that is my call LOL
<3> I don't want filtering.
<0> it will go through the netfilter wether you want it to or not
<3> You want me to filter with DNAT. I don't want that.
<0> p3nguin: I told you repeatedly youd ont have to do that
<0> I told you I would
<0> you dont need to use dnat
<0> you will go through the netfilter though wether you like it or not
<0> and since you wll go through it wether you like it or not you should.......
<9> MrAnderson: why would that need netfilter?
<3> I know it will go through netfilter, but that doesn't mean it has to be mangled in any way.
<0> RuneB: do you not know how the netfilter works?
<0> p3nguin: no mangling required
<9> MrAnderson: yes, I know how netfilter works.
<0> RuneB: are you not aware alll your packets go through it
<9> MrAnderson: yeah, and? you don't need netfilter to NAT.
<0> p3nguin: you see your problem with just "routing" is the outside world for that public ip does not know your inside route
<0> p3nguin: guess what machine would know the routes
<0> RuneB: he's not natting fyi
<9> MrAnderson: routing and netfilter are separate things.
<9> MrAnderson: yeah, I got that.
<0> RuneB: indeed they are which doesnt change things pre and post route still traverse guess what, the netfilter
<9> MrAnderson: that's irrelevent.
<0> actually it isnt
<7> Great... I used YUM to install the Nvidia kernel module, but now X says that The Kernel module version is 1.0.8178, and the X module is version 1.0.7664. So it can't start.
<0> because that is where traffic goes in and goes out
<7> How do I fix that?
<0> and that is not irrelevant if you want to communicate with anything
<9> MrAnderson: even in a kernel with netfilter compiled out?
<1> p3nguin: you need to somehow direct all inbound/outbound packets through the main box to one of the LAN computers. isn't there a redirect in netfilter that would do this ?
<0> RuneB: well his is not one without it compiled so thats moot as we are talking about one with it
<0> Al-Ashtar: he doesnt want to do that remember ;)
<1> not using nat
<9> p3nguin: sounds like you just need a few iproute rules.
<9> (***uming you're using 2.6)
<1> he wants to do this, but he doesn't want filtering of any kind
<1> nat will filter
<0> you traverse the netfilter nat or not
<0> you traverse it period
<1> we know that
<9> MrAnderson: but it's irrelevent. netfilter won't be doing anything.
<1> never mind, you don't get it anyway
<0> Al-Ashtar: and nat itself isnt filtering its translating
<0> RuneB: actually it will do exactly what you tell it
<0> Al-Ashtar: sure I do as I've done it remember ;)
<0> Al-Ashtar: let me get my t-shirt
<0> be right back
<1> what t-shirt
<9> MrAnderson: are you familiar with iproute2 at all?
<1> lol my 1.5 year-old is snoring
<0> RuneB: yes and dont need it
<0> RuneB: if you prefer doing it that way knock yourswelf out use what works for ya
<9> MrAnderson: for routing you do, in 2.6 kernels.
<0> actually ya dont
<8> p3nguin, http://coombs.anu.edu.au/~avalon/ ?
<0> and I know this because I route between my 172.23/24 voice lan and my 172.18/22 business without it
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