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<0> intel's wireless stuff? <1> I already install ndiswrapper and install the driver <1> nop <1> INPRNCOMM <0> Oh, I don't do ndiswrapper. <1> INPRONCOMM <1> ic <1> so how do i want to instal the driver? <0> (I restrict my charity work to free software) <1> jblack, I dont understand that <1> can you be more specific <0> Call their 800 number every 15 minutes until they release the specs, so that someone else can? <1> :) <0> Ok. You're new to linux, right? <1> yup <1> newbie
<0> Ok. As it happens, there's two kinds of free. <2> let's not do this again <g> <0> There's free as in "10% extra free!". And there's "Ohhhh say can you see.... by the donserly light" free. <3> that second example is hardly free anymore <1> what do you mean by that? <1> yo mean by givig me the solution <0> It you download something without paying money, that's no-cost free. If you can download something, change it, and re-release it, that's freedom. <1> and expect me to pay you some money? <0> No. I'm not asking you to give me money. <1> ic <1> then? <0> I'm explaining that you've sort of fell into a world thats even more free than you thought. <1> aiyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa <1> really feeling dizzy right now <0> Here, we help with software that comes with certain freedom guarantees. The source code is available. You can give other people copies all you want. You can make changes. You can do almost anything you want. <1> I'm not good at poetry or something like that <0> We don't help, though, with software that doesn't come with those freedoms -- they're not free to us -- even if you didn't pay a cost. <0> Think of it as like eating dolphin free tuna <1> ok <4> lol <5> roses are red, violets are blue ... if I can't buy it, so can't you <6> wow, people are awake <5> easy <7> or zombies ;) <6> im having trouble sleeping <8> must.... eat.... brains..... <0> JasonVorhees: Well... since we're proponents of our metaphoric dolphin free tuna, we don't help people make tuna sandwiches with dolphins in them. <0> Kinda get it? <4> farhan_, clear the cookies <4> :p <9> simmy : As the Welsh brewery ad states: <9> "It' <5> farhan_: hammer + head = sleep <6> clear the cookies? <7> try hotdogs--it's all in there <6> Dino, : what do you mean by that? <9> "It's Brains you want!" <1> jblack, nope i dont get it <1> sorry <1> i'm dumb <0> Ok. <0> Well, that's the best analogy that I can come up with right now. <10> for alternative helo ...try at /server irc.freenode.org <1> jblack, thanx for the explanation <5> JasonVorhees: it's like when you wake up in the morning and you have no gas in your car, wouldn't you like to eat apples when it's not raining ? <11> JasonVorhees : People that can't type annoy the hell out of me. get a clue! <5> same thing <0> what? <1> aduhhh <0> JasonVorhees: Here... Do you know what the word proprietary means? <1> pening aku dah nih <1> tak paham langsungg <1> adeh... <1> nope <1> my english is bad <9> JasonVorhees : English only please. <1> sorry <4> damn he is yelling at you jblack <1> who is yelling? <0> You know what he said?
<4> not really, but looks mad <4> lol <1> Dino, pls do not say things that you dont know <4> is it was urdu? or malaysian <0> JasonVorhees: Ok. Well, it would probably be best if you try for help elsewhere. <6> Urdu? <0> dino: Yeah. I don't appreciate that. <4> farhan_, ok <1> jblack, i didnt yell anything <1> i just want to learn something new <4> JasonVorhees, was jk jblack <0> JasonVorhees: Ok. <0> Well, learn this then. You're not in the windows any more. It matters not just how much something cost, but what sort of rights you have too. :) <5> JasonVorhees: let me explain a little better. when you wake up in the morning, ok ? you understand this part ? when you wake up in the morning and want to ping google.com maybe but there is no good movie on HBO for a change, wouldn't you like to tie you shoe lases before the shelf that's holding you cloths falls ? it's the same thing <0> Al-Ashtar: I don't what's going on with you, but you're not making any sense. <6> i always have trouble sleeping <6> it ****s <5> jblack: I know <5> heheh <5> see farhan_ understood <5> right farhan_ ? <6> huh? <10> its Malaysian..same like Indonesia <1> Al-Ashtar, like i said, my english is bad and i'm not good in poetry or something like that <1> just straight to the point <5> Malaysia, Truly Asia <10> Indonesia Purely Asia <6> Pakistanis are asian too! :-) <0> JasonVorhees: Ok. Straight to the point. It sounds to me like your card is not supported by the linux kernel because the company doesn't know how to behave in the free software world. :) <12> hahaha... this is asian relax hour <1> yihaaaaaaaa <5> jblack: LOL <1> jblack, that i understand <1> ic <5> LOL <0> JasonVorhees: Great. The company that made the card you have. THey need to give the information to the linux team so that they can write a driver for you. <1> ahaha <1> jblack, that i understand tooo <0> Great. <0> One lst part. That NDIS driver stuff. Its a trap. <1> i think i better buy a new one <10> you can use win driver for linux by just modifying .cab and .inf file... dont ask me how..i dont even know it <0> Yes. Buy a new card. <1> jblack, what kinda' trap? <0> JasonVorhees: A trap to turn linux into windows. <5> maybe he just needs to ifconfig up eth1, or dhclient eth1 <0> poor benji must be feeling his eyes rolling over his head. <5> arrggg. ifconfig eth1 up <1> jblack, ic <0> Al-Ashtar: its possible. Want to check the card he's using, and see if its supported by the kernel? <1> Al-Ashtar, the porblem is, there's no eth1 <6> i hate how in the US, when peopel say "Asian" they mean East Asians, and Pakistanis are considered middle eastern <6> weird <1> my linux kernel doesn't detect eth1 <1> just eth0 <5> jblack: me ?! <0> There some other al-ashtar about? <13> hey everyone. I think my windows drive might have some errors, so I am running Ubuntu live cd on that computer. Is there a way to use it to check the drive for errors (it's NTFS formatted) <10> fsck <5> there you go, his card isn't supported heheheh <0> MokonaSan: Not reliably enough for what you need. <10> Mononasan type fsck <8> MokonaSan : nope. chkdsk from windows. THen reboot for it to run. <5> JasonVorhees: what's your card model, I'll try googling with you <0> thanks ali <5> most welcome <13> simmy: dang, that ****s. I guess I don't have any choice <13> chkdsk froze up on me when i tried it before <13> so the badblocks command won't work on an NTFS drive? <0> MokonaSan: That's what I'd do. The ntfs drivers are not complete yet and I wouldn't trust fsck to be able to do a reliable job. <1> Al-Ashtar, wait a minute okay, i want to logout first, want to reboot my router <8> no <1> hold on
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